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The James Bond Film Discussion Thread (With Bonus Lazenby!)

And their worst scene in the movie was their last. Not the best ends for arguably the film's most interesting characters.
 
Since this is more of a general Bond thread now it's worth sharing this

According to Broccoli and Wilson it's going to be two years (at least) before filming even starts on the next film so I guess we're looking at 2025 at the earliest :(



If only they'd had time on their hands when they could have been thinking about these things. I dunno, if only they'd been locked in their houses for 18 months with nothing to do :p

I get that they didn't want to even think about the next guy until Daniel had his send off, but it's over nine months since NTTD hit the cinemas, and do they really need two years to reinvent the character etc? Bond isn't that complex a character at the end of the day.

I get that preproduction, script and casting take time (or maybe not, look how quickly Russell T Davies has turned Doctor Who around since he took charge again) but it really does feel like either they can't be arsed anymore, or maybe it's just too strenuous these days, I mean Wilson is 80 but at 62 it's not like Broccoli is really that old.

Obviously the days when you could turn a Bond film around in a year are long gone, and maybe even the days where you could drop one every two years are too, but it'd be nice to have a consistent Bond flick dropping every three years. Is that really too much to ask?

And yes they're not beholden to me or any other fan, but if they're not that fussed anymore they could fully hand the whole thing over to Amazon, and I'm not saying that would necessarily be a good idea, I don't actually want a Bond Extended Universe or anything, but if they're just clinging on out of misplaced honour or duty that's not fair on anyone.

I mean just look at this.

60s- 6 films
70s- 5 films
80s- 5 films
90s- 3 films (but remember they didn't start until midway through the decade)
2000s- 3 films
2010s - 2 films (in fairness if Boyle had worked out we probably would have got NTTD in 2019 so it would have been 3 again)
2020s- 1 film (so far)

Maybe three films a decade is the norm now.

What do people think, valid criticism or am I just bring a grumpy old man :P

One last point but I guess the big question is whether they'll decide what kind of Bond they want and cast to fit the role, or whether they'll cast Bond and then mould the character to fit the actor. Hopefully the former and they'll go for something a smidgen more light hearted.
I saw that story yesterday and wondered if I should open a Bond speculation/rumour/anticipation thread
 
I'd love to see a return to a new Bond film every two or three years but in this day and age that's not terribly likely(though doable as the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy and standalone movies proved all too well and even if you had issues with the storytelling and plots they showed that you can produce and release an ambitious mega-budget movie in one franchise and every single year if you actually want to). Three a decade would be progress at this point and as long as the films were decent it'd be fine.

If two or all three are like Spectre then not so much. :lol:

I probably am being unfair, yes Marvel trot a lot of films out but it isn't like they're all Thor or Captain America films, and for all that people go on about Mission Impossible there were still only three in the 2010s.

I don't know, you just get a kind of drive and energy about other franchises, even if there'd three or four years between films, that you just don't get from BB and MW anymore. I think that's what irks.

Dear God, three Spectres in a row could be the death knell of the franchise!

And their worst scene in the movie was their last. Not the best ends for arguably the film's most interesting characters.

This is true, imagine if they could have bought them back to face Rog!
 
Frankly given Moore showed more pain over the death of Tracy than Connery ever did, then if Lazenby's Bond couldn't be the one to get revenge, I'm glad Rog could.
Also remember that OHMSS was considered a box office and popular disappointment at the time. They did everything they could to ignore the events of that film in DAF (much like Star Trek II ignored TMP). DAF is more of a follow up to YOLT. Conner ignored Tracey's death because, as far as he was concerned, it never happened.
 
Even though we don't see the body, I prefer to believe Blofeld died in DIAMONDS before Wint and Kidd. After Tracy's death, it seems quite fair. Bond's too happy at simply capturing him as opposed to being vengeful.

Being slammed around inside a mini-sub used as a wrecking ball could easily be fatal. Who’s going to get him down?
 
Bond probably wanted off the oil rig before it blew. I guess he figured if Blofeld wasn't dead after this he'd be in no shape to ever again be a threat to him.

Yeah, it's lazy but in the heat of the moment it probably made sense to him.
 
I didn't much appreciate Dr. No the first time I saw it. It didn't have any gadgets or big action scenes. Over the years though it has become one of my favorite Bond movies maybe because it's a more low-key story.
 
No, it's budget was so low and its has so little intrusive background music it feels like a documentary film crew is following Bond, Honey Ryder and Quarrel around recording their adventures for posterity. Dr. No has long stretches of nothing but ambient background noise and that's something that didn't stick with the franchise.
 
Even Blofeld's bathysub escape vehicle at the end of Diamonds Are Forever had the octopus on it. They branded a lot for an underground criminal organization. :lol:
Really? I never noticed that; but something I'd come to find conspicuous about DAF is how Blofeld's the villain, but SPECTRE is never mentioned.
 
It's a look quick or you'll miss it detail but when Blofeld walks out of the oil rig base to make his escape the bathysub has an octopus on the nose.

I wonder if the Kevin McClory stuff was startitng to pick up speed by that time and they had to watch how many overt references they dropped? By The Spy Who Loved Me the McClory mess had torpedoed their chances of bringing back Blofeld or SPECTRE as the villains.
 
And having unnamed Blofeld get wasted in the fricking pre-credit scene----and totally unrelated to the body of the film----was simply misguided. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY picked a strange time to briefly bring him back.
Production-wise, this would have been not long after it had been legally established that EON could no longer use Blofeld or SPECTRE...they'd intended to bring them back in TSWLM. The FYEO teaser can be taken as a middle finger in that general direction.
 
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