Spoilers 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' series [Spoiler Discussion]

[thribs]

So I assume the next episode will have Reva going after Luke to get revenge on Vader and Kenobi will kill her, Darth Maul style.

 

[Campe]

I wish there were more flashbacks throughout the series. Use Hayden well. His performance in this one was pretty good. But it would have been nice to see more overall.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah, the lack of deaging on Hayden Christensen in the flashbacks was surprising given how much they've been using it in everything else. Hell, we had almost an entire episode with a deaged Mark Hamill in The Mandalorian.

That was questionable.

So I assume the next episode will have Reva going after Luke to get revenge on Vader and Kenobi will kill her, Darth Maul style.

If the battle is quick like that it would the best.

 

[Crewman6]

Yeah, the lack of deaging on Hayden Christensen in the flashbacks was surprising given how much they've been using it in everything else. Hell, we had almost an entire episode with a deaged Mark Hamill in The Mandalorian.

Mark Hamill was not "Deaged." He was a ghoulish, all-CGI creation (even his voice was completely artificial.)

I'd much rather have the real actor playing the actual role, even if it isn't a perfect match.

Poor Mark Hamill, god bless him, they let him show up on the set in costume(!) to "play" the role, even though exactly nothing of him is actually in it.

 

[JD]

Yeah, but even if he wasn't physically there, it was still a younger version of him.
My point is just that they obviously have the technology for their shows, so it's surprising they didn't use it.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah, but even if he wasn't physically there, it was still a younger version of him.
My point is just that they obviously have the technology for their shows, so it's surprising they didn't use it.

Comes down to time.

 

[cooleddie74]

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[Nightowl1701]

Imagine if the above had been the first we saw of Obi-Wan/Anakin in AOTC, just before the elevator scene. Everything right and wrong about their friendship and training, encapsulated in just three minutes.

 

[cooleddie74]

This sparring does put Obi-Wan's teasing about Anakin's lightsaber training in the speeder in AOTC into context. Even after this sparring he feels Anakin isn't taking his lightsaber training seriously enough.

 

[fireproof78]

Imagine if the above had been the first we saw of Obi-Wan/Anakin in AOTC, just before the elevator scene. Everything right and wrong about their friendship and training, encapsulated in just three minutes.

Yup. Didn't need much to show actual friendship.

 

[JD]

Comes down to time.

Yeah, that's probably true. IMO they did at least do a better job of blending this in with Attack of The Clones than These Are the Voyages did with The Pegasus.

Imagine if the above had been the first we saw of Obi-Wan/Anakin in AOTC, just before the elevator scene. Everything right and wrong about their friendship and training, encapsulated in just three minutes.

Yeah, this really would have been a great to reintroduce us to the characters in AoTC.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah, that's probably true. IMO they did at least do a better job of blending this in with Attack of The Clones than These Are the Voyages did with The Pegasus.

Low bar.

 

[thribs]

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[Crewman6]

I wish there were more flashbacks throughout the series. Use Hayden well. His performance in this one was pretty good. But it would have been nice to see more overall.

I liked seeing Hayden, but that really wouldn't be necessary for the narrative and would definitely be a case of diminishing returns.

 

[Crewman6]

Yeah, but even if he wasn't physically there, it was still a younger version of him.
My point is just that they obviously have the technology for their shows, so it's surprising they didn't use it.

It's not surprising. They had the actual actor. Why create a completely artificial (awful-looking) CGI construct when you can use an actual person?

Neither is completely believable, of course. But I'd much rather have then err on the side of "real guy who can actually act even if he looks slightly off" than Uncanny Valley monster that may look age-appropriate but is otherwise an abomination.

Obviously, with Luke, they couldn't use a 70-year-old Mark Hamill to stand in for his 30-year-old self. But, in this case, they made the far, far better choice.

 

[thribs]

I liked seeing Hayden, but that really wouldn't be necessary for the narrative and would definitely be a case of diminishing returns.

Yes but it would have justified using Hayden more. Plus they could have used them to make the Clone Wars material fit with canon better as a few only see the live action stuff as so.

 

[thribs]

It's not surprising. They had the actual actor. Why create a completely artificial (awful-looking) CGI construct when you can use an actual person?

Neither is completely believable, of course. But I'd much rather have then err on the side of "real guy who can actually act even if he looks slightly off" than Uncanny Valley monster that may look age-appropriate but is otherwise an abomination.

Obviously, with Luke, they couldn't use a 70-year-old Mark Hamill to stand in for his 30-year-old self. But, in this case, they made the far, far better choice.

But they did use Hamil in Mando. They used him and his body double to recreate that scene

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Because it is.

Most of the Star Wars shows are. Ahsoka far more so, Mandalorian definitely and Andor also.

This.

 

[JD]

It's not surprising. They had the actual actor. Why create a completely artificial (awful-looking) CGI construct when you can use an actual person?

Neither is completely believable, of course. But I'd much rather have then err on the side of "real guy who can actually act even if he looks slightly off" than Uncanny Valley monster that may look age-appropriate but is otherwise an abomination.

A lot of the other examples of digital deaging have had the original actor, and they still chose to go for that method.

Obviously, with Luke, they couldn't use a 70-year-old Mark Hamill to stand in for his 30-year-old self. But, in this case, they made the far, far better choice.

I'm the other way around, I'd rather get the digital deaging, than be expected to buy a 41 year old playing his 19 year old self.

 

[Crewman6]

But they did use Hamil in Mando. They used him and his body double to recreate that scene

He was there, but they didn't actually "use" him in any real way.