Obviously.
Local aikido dojos are hard to come by. And YouTube is, well, YouTube.
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Local aikido dojos are hard to come by. And YouTube is, well, YouTube.
Twas a joke. A reference to the Taken movies staring Liam Neeson, whom McGregor has worked with before.
For comparison…
Uchikaitennage (McGregor stops just before the throw):
iriminage (the first is the less common, “direct” variant used by Ewan, but here it also shows other variants):
several kotegaheshi variants:
Speaking of kotegaheshi variants, I failed to find a video showing the exact one he does in the episode, but it’s in fact the OLDER one, closer to the floor, which isn’t often taught these days in most dojos.
Uchikaitennage (McGregor stops just before the throw):
iriminage (the first is the less common, “direct” variant used by Ewan, but here it also shows other variants):
several kotegaheshi variants:
Speaking of kotegaheshi variants, I failed to find a video showing the exact one he does in the episode, but it’s in fact the OLDER one, closer to the floor, which isn’t often taught these days in most dojos.
where do you live? The moon?
I mean, these days they seem to be everywhere (although some are quite dubious)!
sorry, I’m not familiar with it.
Keep in mind that this is all just stage combat, not actual combat. It's all practiced moves and falls, with the person being "hit" being mostly responsible for making it look real. McGregor is mostly just learning the moves by wrote, like a dance. Anything more involved and they'll use a stunt double with actual martial arts training (because that's what they're for.) Though even then it's still by necessity 100% choreographed.
Quite rural, actually. Thanks. So, close to the Moon. Though, the commute isn't that bad.
Liam Neeson.
possibly. On the other hand, he is famous for having taken the lightsaber combat very seriously back during the prequels and these ARE interesting skills to learn (Shatner practiced aikido for real in the 70s, BtW).
By original work do you mean a New Hope of the entire OT? Continuity issues are completely normal for SW. You have Vader being changed to Luke's father in ESB, even though it was said he died in ANH. You have Luke and Leia being siblings in RotJ.after they shared a 'romantic kiss'
Kids love it, adults hate it.
Uh, there's no "possibly" about it. No production that doesn't want a massive lawsuit on their hands (to say nothing of injured actors) would do anything other than use a professional team of stunt performers and fight choreographers for this kind of thing. Fights are tightly choreographed and rehearsed over and over. Every punch, kick, throw, block, reversal, every miss and "mistake" carefully planned out ahead of time, then practiced and rehearsed over and over until it can be done safely with as little contact as possible.
Honestly it feels weird even having to explain this, most people just take it as a given. Have you never seen a behind the scenes on literally anything ever? You know wrestling isn't real either, right?
Nah, I've just worked on dozens of movies and series in varying capacities and have been practicing Aikido for decades. But if you stopped considering what I wrote instead of getting enraged and writing this tirade you might have realised I've not written that the stunts are real, but that it's not impossible that Evan McGreggor practices for real. Just like Steven Seagal, to mention the most famous of the lot. Or WIlliam Shatner, to mention someone very familiar on this board.
I’ll add that these techniques can be practiced safely if you know what you’re doing. We do them pretty much every few days. But yes, they can also be “faked”, of course, all it takes is a good actor that understands how it looks from the outside and a second one that knows when to fall. They are in any case much easier to pull off safely, real or not, than the usual kicks and punches you see in “normal” TV fights.
Just went back to check on discovery s03e01. Burnham attempts a sankyo (but immediately fails to execute the lock), a kaitenage (standing variant, not the uchi one from below that kenobi does), then executes a kotegaeshi in the more recent, nowadays most common high variant. The choreography of that fight is the best discovery ever did.
Sankyo, exactly in this variant, is of course normal curriculum to many police forces around the world: once you locked properly you have complete control of the other person’s body and it hurts a lot if they resist, in fact so much that’s easy to control them without damaging and leaves both persons able to walk to the police officer’s intended destination.
Sankyo, exactly in this variant, is of course normal curriculum to many police forces around the world: once you locked properly you have complete control of the other person’s body and it hurts a lot if they resist, in fact so much that’s easy to control them without damaging and leaves both persons able to walk to the police officer’s intended destination.
It's funny, but in executing this technique you can see that he potentially has Sankajo (or Sankyo depending on your pronunciation, but essentially 3rd control) initially, as he steps under, then gives it up to shift his grip to the top of uke's wrist to execute the alternate technique and throw. If he'd reverse pivoted instead of bending uke and shifting his grip, he could have gone a whole different direction with that technique. I've been off the mats for over twenty years now, but I still have a deep love for aiki.
indeed: Uchikaitennage and uchikainensankyo begin exactly the same.
By the way, I’ve always suspected that the reason pretty nobody does a successful sankyo on TV is because it doesn’t LOOK as if you’re doing anything sensible…Of course once you find yourself on the receiving end of it, especially in the standing variation, you understand why real-life police learn it!
Yup. My sensei was a Jacksonville PD SWAT officer. He used to run a handcuffing and control class for local law enforcement and when I was a 1-3 kyu rank I'd be his 'cuffing dummy' for class. That was a lot more akijutsu than aikido. Lot of pressure point stuff, too. It does get your attention! 
that’s really cool!Yup. My sensei was a Jacksonville PD SWAT officer. He used to run a handcuffing and control class for local law enforcement and when I was a 1-3 kyu rank I'd be his 'cuffing dummy' for class. That was a lot more akijutsu than aikido. Lot of pressure point stuff, too. It does get your attention!
It really does…We rarely do Yonkyo but every time we do it’s really memorable (as in: I have blue marks for the next two days).
So something occurred to me today. The chase scene in the 1st episode may have been planned and intentional. If that is true, then all is forgiven.
With the new TV shows they have been including little elements, tributes from previous Star Wars productions. The chase scene kind of reminded me of the Ewok movies. So if that's the case, than there's nothing at all wrong with this show.
Maybe we will find out when they release The Gallery for this show.
With the new TV shows they have been including little elements, tributes from previous Star Wars productions. The chase scene kind of reminded me of the Ewok movies. So if that's the case, than there's nothing at all wrong with this show.
Maybe we will find out when they release The Gallery for this show.
Ah yes, the Ewok movies that upon mention on your typical Star Wars forum/reddit you will get a gazillion comments and a few mod posts reminding you aren't canon, and never were. Yes, I've had it rough out there since the SW fandom went all Gul Madred.
Yes Madred, there are 5 lights and there were always 5 lights, never 4.
I'm still trying to figure out who thought they were canon? Certainly not in the Star Wars fan club I hung out in!Ah yes, the Ewok movies that upon mention on your typical Star Wars forum/reddit you will get a gazillion comments and a few mod posts reminding you aren't canon, and never were. Yes, I've had it rough out there since the SW fandom went all Gul Madred.
Yes Madred, there are 5 lights and there were always 5 lights, never 4.
Not saying it didn't happen, but just, well, I never thought they were. Need to find my Star Wars Encyclopedia and see how they treated it.
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