Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 2
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Superman and Lois
Season 2 - Episode 13 - "All is Lost"
SM/Clark: Clark thinks his sons will hate him (and Lois) for Lana's decision's...yeah, that would not be a problem if Clark made a mature choice--the one he embraced for most of his life.
Training Jordan is one thing, but in the wake of Jordan always arguing that he's "ready" to help SM, training will only fill Jordan's head with a belief that he's "really" ready, and at that point, any parental brakes on his superhero-ing can only lead to Jordan (still reeling from the Cushing family ban) suffering from yet another personal letdown....oh...wait (SEE NOTES).
Now that Clark is just a plain 'ol human (for as long as that sub-plot lasts), he might end up filling his hours working for Chrissy (if Lois can finally convince Beppo that he has some level of experience/skill).
Lois / Lucy / Sam / Ally: In sequential order, Lois is old enough to know--through an understanding of several dark chapters of history--that pleading with dedicated members of any extremist group rarely ends well. Yes, Lucy is her sister, but again, history has witnessed one family member trying to restore relations / rescue a relative and were met with flat out resistance--seen in her desire to permanently separate herself from Lois and Sam...and now Lois' own husband has been damaged by Lucy's weak-willed overreactions.
Despite Lois and Sam's apologies, one would think they have been burned by Lucy's duplicitous nature enough to not buy into her slightly thawing the ice she's erected around herself.
Since no one in the audience believes SM will ever be put in mortal danger or permanently lose his powers, the Ally fight lacked even a morsel of drama from the attack, or Lois' reaction.
Merging worlds...Ally's megalomania...this is the big season arc...the Big Bad? Even faintly associated sub-plots suffered due to this cult story.
Lana /Kyle / Sarah:
"If Sarah knows your secret, it puts her whole life in danger"
"Not even Superman can keep everyone safe"
"if you love Sarah and want to protect her, you'll stay away."
"Sarah will never be safe if you're a part of her life"
The best set of dialogue of the entire series--all grounded in rationality. Her reaction after Jordan's departure was--hopefully--not a sign she will drag her children into that dangerous world.
Irons / Natalie: Okkkaayy....for a moment, Irons was painted as indifferent to Natalie's knowledge and/or help, but at the end of it all, his "I need you alive" was the best argument Irons made for Natalie not thinking she can survive donning the suit. On that note, she's never really trained with the suit, so she was pretty lucky not to be the recipient of Ally's attack. Certainly, that has to be addressed in the future.... (SEE NOTES)
NOTES:
Surprise. surprise. I had next to no faith Lana would maintain her position of common sense for more than one episode, but she's held firm. I imagine if she sees Clark in town and either he reveals his current problem, or a disaster is handled by everyone other than SM, she might suspect something is up with Clark...but her curiosity should not cast her into some misplaced emotional whirlwind leading her to endanger her family where the secret is concerned.
Fairly predictable episode with two parents bringing their children into the superhero business. Although Clark has lost his powers for the moment, and the responsibility of fighting is left up to Irons and his...Teen Brigade (yeah, yeah--a Marvel reference for a DC show), Clark did not lose his experiences, or the ability to train Jordan. Whether or not Jordan listens is another matter.
Jonathan feels he has no place (and has not said a word about his relationship with his girlfriend post scandal), so this could be a set up for the character to make some rash decision (e.g., trying to aid Jordan and Natalie) that places his life in danger. Or, he might bond with his father, now that they have more in common (i.e., no super-powers).
Yep, the Cushing end of the story is the best thing going for this series.
Since no showrunner has explicitly said Superman and Lois takes place on some alternate earth, one day or another, they will need to explain the lack of even a reference to any of the big name, costumed Arrowverse characters (and why they're never mentioned in-universe).
The series returns on June 21--and only there's two episodes left in the season.
GRADE:C-.
Season 2 - Episode 13 - "All is Lost"
SM/Clark: Clark thinks his sons will hate him (and Lois) for Lana's decision's...yeah, that would not be a problem if Clark made a mature choice--the one he embraced for most of his life.
Training Jordan is one thing, but in the wake of Jordan always arguing that he's "ready" to help SM, training will only fill Jordan's head with a belief that he's "really" ready, and at that point, any parental brakes on his superhero-ing can only lead to Jordan (still reeling from the Cushing family ban) suffering from yet another personal letdown....oh...wait (SEE NOTES).
Now that Clark is just a plain 'ol human (for as long as that sub-plot lasts), he might end up filling his hours working for Chrissy (if Lois can finally convince Beppo that he has some level of experience/skill).
Lois / Lucy / Sam / Ally: In sequential order, Lois is old enough to know--through an understanding of several dark chapters of history--that pleading with dedicated members of any extremist group rarely ends well. Yes, Lucy is her sister, but again, history has witnessed one family member trying to restore relations / rescue a relative and were met with flat out resistance--seen in her desire to permanently separate herself from Lois and Sam...and now Lois' own husband has been damaged by Lucy's weak-willed overreactions.
Despite Lois and Sam's apologies, one would think they have been burned by Lucy's duplicitous nature enough to not buy into her slightly thawing the ice she's erected around herself.
Since no one in the audience believes SM will ever be put in mortal danger or permanently lose his powers, the Ally fight lacked even a morsel of drama from the attack, or Lois' reaction.
Merging worlds...Ally's megalomania...this is the big season arc...the Big Bad? Even faintly associated sub-plots suffered due to this cult story.
Lana /Kyle / Sarah:
"If Sarah knows your secret, it puts her whole life in danger"
"Not even Superman can keep everyone safe"
"if you love Sarah and want to protect her, you'll stay away."
"Sarah will never be safe if you're a part of her life"
The best set of dialogue of the entire series--all grounded in rationality. Her reaction after Jordan's departure was--hopefully--not a sign she will drag her children into that dangerous world.
Irons / Natalie: Okkkaayy....for a moment, Irons was painted as indifferent to Natalie's knowledge and/or help, but at the end of it all, his "I need you alive" was the best argument Irons made for Natalie not thinking she can survive donning the suit. On that note, she's never really trained with the suit, so she was pretty lucky not to be the recipient of Ally's attack. Certainly, that has to be addressed in the future.... (SEE NOTES)
NOTES:
Surprise. surprise. I had next to no faith Lana would maintain her position of common sense for more than one episode, but she's held firm. I imagine if she sees Clark in town and either he reveals his current problem, or a disaster is handled by everyone other than SM, she might suspect something is up with Clark...but her curiosity should not cast her into some misplaced emotional whirlwind leading her to endanger her family where the secret is concerned.
Fairly predictable episode with two parents bringing their children into the superhero business. Although Clark has lost his powers for the moment, and the responsibility of fighting is left up to Irons and his...Teen Brigade (yeah, yeah--a Marvel reference for a DC show), Clark did not lose his experiences, or the ability to train Jordan. Whether or not Jordan listens is another matter.
Jonathan feels he has no place (and has not said a word about his relationship with his girlfriend post scandal), so this could be a set up for the character to make some rash decision (e.g., trying to aid Jordan and Natalie) that places his life in danger. Or, he might bond with his father, now that they have more in common (i.e., no super-powers).
Yep, the Cushing end of the story is the best thing going for this series.
Since no showrunner has explicitly said Superman and Lois takes place on some alternate earth, one day or another, they will need to explain the lack of even a reference to any of the big name, costumed Arrowverse characters (and why they're never mentioned in-universe).
The series returns on June 21--and only there's two episodes left in the season.
GRADE:C-.
Except the invasion from an alternate universe would be happening whether or not they were friends.
The season-long arc is wearing thin on me. I still enjoy all the character bits but the Alley Cult story is just dragging.
I do like that Lois, Clark, Lana, John Henry, and Eric are all about my age. All the Gen X references and their kids not knowing crack me up.
Although, I'd think Jordon would know the Kessel Run. But maybe his a bigger Trekkie since he sent Sarah an LLAP emoji way back in season one.
I do like that Lois, Clark, Lana, John Henry, and Eric are all about my age. All the Gen X references and their kids not knowing crack me up.
Although, I'd think Jordon would know the Kessel Run. But maybe his a bigger Trekkie since he sent Sarah an LLAP emoji way back in season one.
I'm so ready for this plotline to be over. Ally is a totally uninteresting antagonist, and the Lucy-Lois conflict here is unpleasant and tiresome. I miss the strong, confident Lucy from Supergirl season 1. The Crisis really did a number on her.
And I'm getting really sick of the glacially slow ad server that The CW's website insists on using for some of its ads, for some reason never fixing the problem even though it's persisted for years. It even seems to be getting worse. There was this one ad for an HIV management drug that loaded so slowly on my laptop that it took some 8 minutes to play, and they showed it in literally every single ad break. Which means that cumulatively, the ads (that one plus the others) took up more time than the actual episode! That's insane. I wish they had some kind of rule that if an ad takes longer than its allotted time to play, it gets cut off unfinished. They should penalize the advertisers for these problems, not the audience. That would give them an incentive to fix that damn slow server. (And really, what the hell is the point of showing the same damn commercial multiple times in the same program?)
And I'm getting really sick of the glacially slow ad server that The CW's website insists on using for some of its ads, for some reason never fixing the problem even though it's persisted for years. It even seems to be getting worse. There was this one ad for an HIV management drug that loaded so slowly on my laptop that it took some 8 minutes to play, and they showed it in literally every single ad break. Which means that cumulatively, the ads (that one plus the others) took up more time than the actual episode! That's insane. I wish they had some kind of rule that if an ad takes longer than its allotted time to play, it gets cut off unfinished. They should penalize the advertisers for these problems, not the audience. That would give them an incentive to fix that damn slow server. (And really, what the hell is the point of showing the same damn commercial multiple times in the same program?)
Agreed. Even if Lana knew the secret from the start. SM's life would be and is a threat to fragile humans who might become targets of SM's enemies. Her statements (to Jordan) in this episode were all sound and well-grounded in reality.
A few days ago, I almost replied to this talking about how the pre-season tease about Clark returning to journalism had come out to even less than Lois's reporting storyline, but it looks like that's actually starting to come around (though it sounded like Beppo wasn't impressed by his LinkedIn profile).
I really liked the training scene with Clark and Jordan at the Fortress of Solitude. The personal drama dragged the ep down for me. I feel like the show is 90% CW drama and 10% Superman.
Obviously, Superman will get his powers back but I am curious how it happen. Doesn't the Sun regenerate Superman or will it be more complicated than that? Is it possible that Superman has been "poisoned" somehow by Ally's energy because she is from the Bizarro world? If so, will Superman need to be "detoxed" before he can regenerate his powers? Maybe Superman will get a blood transfusion from his brother that will restore his powers?
Also, I get that there has to be a temporary setback in order for Superman's comeback to be more dramatic. Hopefully, we will see Superman "level up" and totally crush Ally! I want some epic Superman action where Superman is the strongest and the best. I'm tired of seeing Superman lose.
Obviously, Superman will get his powers back but I am curious how it happen. Doesn't the Sun regenerate Superman or will it be more complicated than that? Is it possible that Superman has been "poisoned" somehow by Ally's energy because she is from the Bizarro world? If so, will Superman need to be "detoxed" before he can regenerate his powers? Maybe Superman will get a blood transfusion from his brother that will restore his powers?
Also, I get that there has to be a temporary setback in order for Superman's comeback to be more dramatic. Hopefully, we will see Superman "level up" and totally crush Ally! I want some epic Superman action where Superman is the strongest and the best. I'm tired of seeing Superman lose.
With only one episode left in the season, I think it's quite fair to say that this thread got much shorter shrift than they implied.
Oh, I see. So she's a version of the Parasite. That explains the whole power-draining thing. But merging it with the Bizarro stuff confused the issue.
Well, it is a Berlanti series, so that goes with the territory of most of the DC series produced by his company.
.......its a Berlanti series, so his fight with Ally might involve Irons and the Teen Brigade as well.
Not only is it a Berlanti series, its also a series who's selling point is that its about superman's struggles as a parent, not about superman punching things.
However, it seems to have gone a little off track even for that, showcasing drama from Lana's family that doesn't seem to have anything to do with anything...
Two episodes.
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