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Spoilers 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' series [Spoiler Discussion]

Rule number one: Never ever trust IMDb for cast details for future productions.

(Future defined as anything that hasn't aired yet)

It can be right.

The actress who played Corran's mother was on there before the episode aired (and before it was shown at Celebration) with a character name. Though said character name hasn't been used in any episodes.

All the new Trek Shows have had actors on there months before they were announced.
Deanna and Riker's daughter in Picard Season 1 was credited with character's name before the series aired and even before she appeared in any trailers
T'Pring's actress with the character's name was on there last fall. Removed shortly after it was discovered
There was a Discovery example I honestly can't remember right now.

So I wouldn't say 'never trust', but treat it as rumour.
 
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I haven't read the whole thread, but did some one work out why Vader just stood there and let the droid rescue Obi-Wan?
My own take on this is that Vader had his own ptsd issues, just as Ben does. The stormtroopers are cut off by the fire. Vader should have the ability to do something, but does he really want to go into fire with a Jedi in there? It didn't go well last time he was overconfident with fire and Kenobi.
 
If anyone is going to be put off by fire, it's probably Vader. Although he did choose to stay on Mustafar and build his evil overlord castle there...
 
It can be right.

The actress who played Corran's mother was on there before the episode aired (and before it was shown at Celebration) with a character name. Though said character name hasn't been used in any episodes.

All the new Trek Shows have had actors on there months before they were announced.
Deanna and Riker's daughter in Picard Season 1 was credited with character's name before the series aired and even before she appeared in any trailers
T'Pring's actress with the character's name was on there last fall. Removed shortly after it was discovered
There was a Discovery example I honestly can't remember right now.

So I wouldn't say 'never trust', but treat it as rumour.
Of course you can't trust something that is only occasionally correct. That's literally what that means. Imagine climbing down a ladder that someone tells you "don't worry, at least three of those rungs never break and let people fall to their death!" Does that sound like a trustworthy ladder to you? Of course not. (See also: how frequently in a day a stopped clock is accurate.)
IMDB is user edited, and as such only slightly less prone to guesswork and nonsense than wikipedia. Sure, it could be right, but most of the time with this kind of thing it isn't, ergo: don't trust it.
 
Vader ordered a Stormtrooper to bring Kenobi to him right before Indira Varma ignited the flames again (the stormtrooper then says "there's no way to get to him!" even though they could just walk round.) So if he did let Kenobi go he only decided to do so after that.

we can't see the close edge of the fire, presumably it butts up against the embankment that Tala is watching from. So they would need to go out and around, giving Obi Wan time to escape. However, Vader could have just put out the flames again. But this was his first clue that Obi-Wan was working with allies, so Vader might have decided to let them escape for the bigger picture, in the hopes of putting down more of the Rebellion. That was his plan in A New Hope, after all.
 
Late to the latest episode discussion here, but I finally watched the episode over the weekend. Since the Imperial March has been brought up, it was also used in all its bombastic glory at the end of Episode II: Attack of the Clones with the scene of all the clone troopers boarding the big destroyers, before the Empire or Vader actually existed, and then segued into Across the Stars for the lakeside wedding. I would like to hear at least a few notes of the Imperial March in a low-key manner at some point in this series. But I guess it's no big loss if it isn't used at all.

I find it curious that Ben doesn't have much of a connection with "The Force" these days but he still keeps trying to commune with Qui-Gon. I wonder if he ever did receive any of that training that Yoda talked about at the end of ROTS earlier on in his exile on Tatooine, but with time kind of let everything fall by the wayside up until now, or if this is the first time he's ever gotten around to trying to reach Qui-Gon. Maybe Ben hopes that reaching Qui-Gon will help him build up his Force senses and abilities to where they were before. But in any case, Qui-Gon probably sees that Ben needs to become more centered and more connected with "The Force" again on his own, before he can really gain anything from Qui-Gon's further tutelage. Part of me really hopes we get to hear Qui-Gon's voice before this series is over, I mean besides flashbacks to TPM dialog.

I find Ben's veiled reminiscences about Padme quite touching. I would even go so far as to say he had his own sort of love for her. I'd like to see them tackle Leia's vague recollection of her real mother that she described in ROTJ. :p

There have been some hints over the years in both 'cannnnon' and EU stuff that Obi-Wan recognized to some degree or other that Anakin was becoming closer to Padme than a Jedi was supposed to be even after Anakin was knighted, but Obi-Wan hesitated or refrained from pushing the issue too much, possibly because he could tell it made Anakin happy and filled a void in his life, and/or to to let Anakin have something more than what he himself was ever able to have with Satine. The closest Obi-Wan gets to saying something about it all is in Clone Wars Season 6 episode 6 "The Rise of Clovis," where he says he understands Anakin's feelings for Padme, and makes a comparison to himself and Satine, but reminds Anakin that he and Padme should remain just friends. Anyway, I always thought it was significant in ROTS that when Obi-Wan confronts Anakin/Vader on Mustafar, he says absolutely nothing about Anakin having this strong forbidden attachment that he shouldn't have had in the first place, instead telling Anakin that Anakin himself had pushed Padme away and 'turned her against him' through his anger and his lust for power. I've always wondered if maybe Obi-wan's hope all along was that once the Clone Wars were over and Anakin had fulfilled his role as the Chosen One in "bringing balance to 'The Force,'" then maybe Anakin could retire from the Jedi and go be with Padme 'for real.' Now I'm not sure exactly where I was going with all this; I guess I'm kind of rambling now. Getting back to episode 3 of "Obi-Wan Kenobi," Obi-Wan must have had some deep regrets about all this, weighing heavily on him for the last ten years.

And we have Vader and Ben's confrontation. I wonder if part of the reason Vader just let Obi-Wan go was a kind of disappointment or disgust that Obi-Wan wasn't a real challenge anymore; like Vader could see there wouldn't be much satisfaction in avenging himself on someone who was obviously already broken and weakened. Of course I want to see a bigger fight between Ben and Vader after Ben re-builds his connection to "The Force," showing his mastery and putting the beat-down on Vader. But in that case I think that would make Vader even more relentless in hunting down Obi-Wan between now and ANH both for personal vengeance and to stop the threat to the Empire, instead of just waiting around to see if he might "come back" someday.

Kor
 
Hmm. The article author John F. Trent seems to be very critical of the whole series, from the get-go with the first episode, as indicated by previous reviews.

Also, today I learned the expression "member berries" from that article.

Kor
It’s from South Park. They had a whole story arc about them.
 
I understand some of the weak points of the episodes that the site describes, but I think it's making a bigger deal than necessary.

To me the show is generally good so far, though a little uneven. Hopefully it will build up to striking the right notes by the end of the season so that it reaches the "outstanding" level for me.

Kor
 
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For those of you that haven't spotted the pattern by now, it goes a little something like this: -
  1. New thing comes out that people like: clickbait machine cranks out disingenuously negative articles to drive outrage traffic, minority that share that view get a signal boost making seem like an even split, which generates more traffic.
  2. New thing becomes slightly old thing: clickbait machine cranks out disingenuously reconciliatory articles about previous new thing, positing that "that old new thing wasn't as bad as people say" driving more outrage traffic, this time from the already riled up and emboldened negative camp, and all just in time for the next new thing that people like to come out.
  3. Rinse and repeat.

How about we form our own opinions and not try and use what some new media hack has been paid to type this week as any kind of viable critical metric?
 
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For those of you that haven't spotted the pattern by now, it goes a little something like this: -
  1. New thing becomes slightly old thing: clickbait machine cranks out disingenuously reconciliatory articles about previous new thing, positing that "that old new thing wasn't as bad as people say" driving more outrage traffic, this time from the already riled up and emboldened negative camp, and all just in time for the next new thing that people like to come out.
When it comes to those who spit out articles or YouTube shows, especially if their critiques are based on sociopolitical issues (e.g. Nerdrotic, The Quartering, Geeks and Gamers, etc.), they tend to dig their heels in as time passes.
 
Hmm. The article author John F. Trent seems to be very critical of the whole series, from the get-go with the first episode, as indicated by previous reviews.

Also, today I learned the expression "member berries" from that article.

Kor

I have to be honest . . . I don't really care what this guy thinks. Does "Obi-Wan Kenobi" have some flaws? Sure. I haven't seen a Star Wars production that didn't. But in my eyes it currently has more virtues than flaws and I'm happy with it. However, there are three more episodes to go and there is still the chance that the screenwriters might screw it up. But . . . I guess I'll have to wait and see.
 
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