Spoilers 'Obi-Wan Kenobi' series [Spoiler Discussion]
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Her dad.
It also sort of goes back the the second or third draft (I forget) where Obi-Wan has to reclaim his powers by getting back his kyber crystal medallion.
Plus as a concept it's sort of touched on in the Ahsoka novel and indeed, her appearance in Mandalorian as well. Though in those instances it's about how the ability will fade without training and practice. It's half the reason why the Jedi prefer to train initiates from infancy.
The danger -- as is often the case with approaching force powers in narratives -- is in making it too much of a mechanical process. This happened a lot in the EU, mostly because writers were often building on the foundations and terminology laid down by the old WEG rules and sourcebooks, which out of necessity described it all in terms of game mechanics (an approach later compounded by the video games.)
Indeed the very term is misleading; nothing can cut a person off from the force. It's everywhere, in everything and is created by life itself. What's actually happening in these instances is a spiritual imbalance that can prevent or at least hinder one's ability (or subconscious willingness) to feel it. As it was for Kanan after he lost his eyes, most of the time the problem isn't physical or even anything to really do with the force, it's spiritual, psychological, and emotional.
What Luke did was more akin to squeezing his eyes shut, sticking his fingers in his ears and humming really loud for a few years. It's all still there, he was just wilfully ignoring it.
Connecting with the force is however still a learned skill, and like any other it will atrophy from lack of use. Indeed we see thins in Kenobi not just with his use of the force but his other skills. He takes several hits in the fist fight with the two spice den guards, and it takes him a moment to find the flow and rhythm again.
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For comparison, IIRC, in Legends he first learned he was alive by over hearing a holonet broadcast talking about Vader.
OK. I'm slow and dumb; it took me this long to connect "You don't have to call me that, I'm just Leia." with "You can call me Luke . . . No, it's Just Luke."
Which is not a very good way to do it. World building aside; this way is much better. Seeing that gut punch "oh fuck he's still alive!?" after so long believing him dead and blaming himself, and being taunted with it from a former Jedi no less. Much more dramatic and interesting. Ewan performance was spot on too. That was clearly the face of a man in the midst of PTSD episode.
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She was, and an unusually good actor for a kid in Star Wars !
I was taken by both how believable she was as a young Carrie in looks, and by how well she nailed the precocious princess thing.
Yes, very good. If R2 is captured and the Empire manages to recover the "Help me" message, the Rebels lose the plans and Leia's busted, but the identity of Kenobi isn't compromised more than necessary. The Empire would have reason to believe he's still alive and to suspect that he's on Tatooine after all, but they wouldn't be handed more direct evidence to tie him into other previous events, like Leia's kidnapping.
Surprised they didn't have R2 guarding Leia.. Or trying too..
He's an astromech, not a sentry or nanny droid. It'd be like assigning the saucier droid to mow the lawn. Even so, he seems to mostly be there to carry covert messages between Bail and Ahsoka.
I suppose now Leia has to be Luke's first student, now that Grogu fell through. The TROS footage suggests she came to that planet not soon after. Though I'm surprised she hadn't been trained already, perhaps since there wasn't a school yet she's not counted.
I suppose the only reason (as it would have made sense in-universe) that Leia wasn't present at the school's inaugural ceremony along with Luke, Ahsoka, Grogu and Mando, that it would have been over-the-top fan service, and that Leia was probably too busy with political affairs at that moment to be in time for the school's completion and the welcoming of its first student; (so she sent Ahsoka in her own place?).
ETA: Or just angry with the Jedi who got her kidnapped all those years ago, and still traumatised by the one who was her biological father.
If every time I've phrased something in odd and unexpected manner, it violated continuity – I'd broken reality a couple of times every day since I could speak, I'm surprised there is a universe still around us.
Thanks.
Incidentally, I found some accidental parallels (probably more unintentional than accidental) in the minor details between what they've been doing in The Fallen Star and Obi-Wan, which have been written/developed around the same time:
- Elzar Mann and Obi-Wan cutting themselves off the force.
- The cargo docking / landing bay is free of people or passengers, so it's used for hiding people going in or out, while the main bay / spaceport is being carefully monitored. I just thought about this as I passed a place in town called “cargo station”, whose meaning I hadn't noticed before.
- Stellan Gios looks like and acts like aJesus Obi-Wan wannabe. Both in his good, and his bad state.
- The cargo docking / landing bay is free of people or passengers, so it's used for hiding people going in or out, while the main bay / spaceport is being carefully monitored. I just thought about this as I passed a place in town called “cargo station”, whose meaning I hadn't noticed before.
- Stellan Gios looks like and acts like a
On a second thought, it doesn't sound like much, but the show reminded me of that.
WHile I'm glad time travel is non-existent (erm, limited) in Star Wars, I sometimes wish the Jedi from different eras could just sit together and share their daily troubles at a dinner table. “Today, we barely escaped from Jedi hunters because everyone was too stupid to guard the cargo space port” “Oh shi-, I think we just forgot to monitor the cargo space port ourselves” Perhaps they can after they die and become Force Ghosts...
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What's the saying? "The pen is mightier than quantum mechanics"?
Probably didn’t want to add too many legacy characters to it.
The old veteran clone trooper begging for money at the beginning of episode 2 sounded really familiar. Was it....him???
Yep, there he finally is in the Guest credits. I'm guessing they glued all that hair on?
I did not recognize him. At first I actually thought it was a guy who found some armor pretending to be a veteran.
He is still in the episode, just not doing *that*.
Was he? I saw Threepio but not him
According to Sam Witwer you'll be able to over hear a couple Storm Troopers talking about T-16s 17s whatever in some episode of the series. Carrying on from those discussions in all the Disney movies so far.
He's only in the shot for a few seconds near the end of the dinner.
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Sam is the best.
Dude's done a couple of voices. Could guess Maul is showing up, or Palpatine.
I doubt it. If Palpatine was showing up, they will use McDiamid
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