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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

Christopher said:
For most people, i.e. the general moviegoing public, yes. But the comics had been repudiating the Adam West version since 1970, and comics readers were probably glad to see a (relatively) more serious screen interpretation at last. Especially in the wake of Miller's The Dark Knight Returns and Batman: Year One in '86-7, which began Batman's super-dark turn in the comics, and were an aggressive reaction against the campy West version. The film's approach was directly inspired by the success of those comics and The Killing Joke.
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Yes, but aside from Batman's popularity, Aquaman was always treated seriously in comics as well. Aquaman just never had an international blockbuster film to repudiate his campy reputation.
 
theenglish said:
Yes, but aside from Batman's popularity, Aquaman was always treated seriously in comics as well. Aquaman just never had an international blockbuster film to repudiate his campy reputation.
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Until 2018, that is. But he'd made appearances in the DC Animated Universe where he'd been played seriously (although he was pretty much a Namor clone there). Although my favorite Aquaman is the "Outrageous!" John DiMaggio version from Batman: The Brave and the Bold, who was played for humor but still repudiated the meme of Aquaman as a weak hero, instead portraying him rather like Chris Hemsworth's Thor, a bombastic warrior king with a party-hard personality.
 
The Realist said:
Not sure I'd trust a site that misspells "livid" as "libid" in the subheader of its article. :rolleyes:

In any case, the only people who are "libid" at Heard are thirsty Depp fans and MRA douchebags. Any reduction of her role would be a dumbass call.
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She confirmed her role has been reduced.

https://www.ign.com/articles/amber-heard-says-aquaman-2-role-pared-down

"I was given a script and then given new versions of the script that had taken away scenes that had action in it, that depicted my character and another character, without giving any spoiler aways, two characters fighting with one another, and they basically took a bunch out of my role," Heard testified. "They just removed a bunch out."
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Christopher said:
Until 2018, that is. But he'd made appearances in the DC Animated Universe where he'd been played seriously (although he was pretty much a Namor clone there). Although my favorite Aquaman is the "Outrageous!" John DiMaggio version from Batman: The Brave and the Bold, who was played for humor but still repudiated the meme of Aquaman as a weak hero, instead portraying him rather like Chris Hemsworth's Thor, a bombastic warrior king with a party-hard personality.
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I thought that Momoa channeled the personality of the B&tB Aquaman quite well and at appropriate moments.
 
theenglish said:
I thought that Momoa channeled the personality of the B&tB Aquaman quite well and at appropriate moments.
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To an extent. But the point is that many TV and home-video viewers were already aware of stronger portrayals of Aquaman. It was just the low-information casual viewers who only knew the "lame Aquaman" meme.
 
The Rock's post today:
"Intense week of shooting BLACK ADAM
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We are redefining the superhero paradigm.
The antihero.
The people no longer need a hero.
They need a protector.
Rage against the dying of the light.
The hierarchy in the DC Universe will change.
#TheManInBlack
#BLACKADAM"

I am still not convinced that he really gets this character...
 
StCoop said:
The Wonder Twins TVM was cancelled because it had a $75m budget.

$75,000,000.00 for a Wonder Twins TV movie. I have to say I'm on Warner Discovery's side in this one.

https://www.murphysmultiverse.com/warner-bros-discovery-reveals-why-the-wonder-twins-was-canceled/
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Agreed. It is crazy that a single TV movie was ever green lighted on that budget to begin with. Overall the trend has moved away from TV movies. Beyond the longer form storytelling networks, cable, and streaming do not want to invest in single one time airings or events. Better to invest in miniseries or short seasons of a series. Than you have an extended event. Most importantly the costs - sets, cast, crew, etc are amortized for more content.

Clearly some of these TV movies were created based on COVID shutdown of theaters. But even than it’s hard to justify that investment outside of a big brand name characters.
 
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Will 'Supergirl' or 'Green Lantern' still happen is the next question.

'Batgirl' is completed but it looks like it will probably be heading to cinemas first.
 
Dick Whitman said:
Agreed. It is crazy that a single TV movie was ever green lighted on that budget to begin with. Overall the trend has moved away from TV movies. Beyond the longer form storytelling networks, cable, and streaming do not want to invest in single one time airings or events. Better to invest in miniseries or short seasons of a series. Than you have an extended event. Most importantly the costs - sets, cast, crew, etc are amortized for more content.

Clearly some of these TV movies were created based on COVID shutdown of theaters. But even than it’s hard to justify that investment outside of a big brand name characters.
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I don't see these "TV movies" being any different than the myriad movies made by Netflix and indeed HBO Max.
 
Mr. Adventure said:
I don't see these "TV movies" being any different than the myriad movies made by Netflix and indeed HBO Max.
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And they're turning out to be bad investments. Nextflix are looking at giving the Knives Out sequel a theatrical release to try and make back some of the money they spent snatching the rights up in the first place.
 
Another factor with streaming is there is so much content from multiple sources it’s easy for TV movies to be overlooked. While theatrical releases still get huge publicity. Netflix has tons of original programming few people know about.
 
Just to be clear, Wonder Twins was going to be an HBO Max original movie, not a TV movie. Streaming movies are getting a lot closer to theatrical movies now, and are quite a bit bigger than TV movies, which tend to be things like the super cheap and cheesy Syfy originals, like Sharknado, or Lifetime's movies.
But even as a streaming movie $75M does seem like a lot for two relatively unknown, or at least not popular characters. They seem to me like characters it would be easily to do in a small scale, low budget movie.
 
In the streaming age, making a distinction between "TV movies" and "streaming movies" is silly.

crookeddy said:
The Rock's post today:
"Intense week of shooting BLACK ADAM
26a1.png

We are redefining the superhero paradigm.
The antihero.
The people no longer need a hero.
They need a protector.
Rage against the dying of the light.
The hierarchy in the DC Universe will change.
#TheManInBlack
#BLACKADAM"

I am still not convinced that he really gets this character...
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Black Adam has spent quite some time in the comics as an antihero.
 
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