Yes its a fake story, but it starts with Shannon being fired from NASA, wondering aimlessly in the snow, falling for a handsome older man, selling out to a strip mall, and making babies.
It's the real story from a fake perspective.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x05 - "Fly Me to the Moon"
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Yes its a fake story, but it starts with Shannon being fired from NASA, wondering aimlessly in the snow, falling for a handsome older man, selling out to a strip mall, and making babies.
It's the real story from a fake perspective.
Because he’s a card-carrying mad scientist.
Indeed.
About 9:11: ugh, possibly the worst episode of Star Trek ever.
I looked for other meanings/ etymology for Tallinn, but didn't find anything.
I did, however, find that Kore was the name of Persephone. Kore meaning girl, maiden, innocence. No idea how the Persephone myth could play into this (she became queen of the Underworld after having been abducted by Hades with the approval of her father, who knew that her mother, Demeter, would never allow it).
I did, however, find that Kore was the name of Persephone. Kore meaning girl, maiden, innocence. No idea how the Persephone myth could play into this (she became queen of the Underworld after having been abducted by Hades with the approval of her father, who knew that her mother, Demeter, would never allow it).
I feel like Kore might have more to do with the divergence than Renee, so you could be onto something.
She has no reason to lie.
The Janeways have been unintentionally lying to the Janeways for centuries.
(Watching the episode now)
This story is so backward.
Also... Shannon is 42 who at some point later marries Henry Janeway who is 20 years her senior from the look of him...
I find it suspect that Shannon Janeway is genetically related to Kathryn Janeway.
She probably adopted Henry's son Jason, which is not exactly the same.
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It's 11:59. I hate it, but not as much as I hate Fury or Stardust City Rag.
"11:59(VOY)" isn't good but it isn't even in my Bottom 5 or even 10 of Voyager episodes.
Does anyone know who's voice it is?
Probably posted already, i haven't perused the thread yet.
For the those who haven't called yet
thanks. I didn’t mind Stardust, Fury was pretty bad but at least the concept was interesting.
Obviously a setup episode and far too short... I won't critique (other than that de Lancie & Spiner were stellar and I like where Jurati and the Queen's relationship is going... also, I *need* that dress Alison Pill was wearing, she looked stunning... and Jurati's fake ID is just 3 months older than me!) because I have a feeling it's supposed to be a package deal with the one coming the day after tomorrow, but it did set up quite a lot of plot threads that provide ample ground for speculation:
Renée is supposed to find a lifeform on Io and Picard talks about its mission as something that had happened, so it's possibly something that needs to happen. Convoluted theorizing of course (which means it'll probably be something way simpler), but the events due to happen in three days might change how humanity rebuilds and reinvents itself after World War 3? Maybe the (presumably, given the location) extremophile alien lifeform Renée is supposed to find would make humanity realize how life is everywhere in infinitely diverse forms, and it would lead to us eventually learning to coexist with life and nature in harmony and not kill our planet; without this, Soong perfecting the cure for his daughter would instead give humanity the ability to survive in more alien environments including the irradiated post-nuclear-exchange hellscape, which would keep us on the path of conquering nature and subjugating life to sustain our needs, no matter the moral or environmental cost.
Well, like I said, convoluted and probably only makes sense in my head. But I still think the mission needs to happen as Picard remembers it, unless Q has already messed with his mind and planted a false memory about the mission there. But maybe Q is placing some red herrings and misleading Picard into thinking Renée is the key while the real change is that Soong was supposed to fail in curing his daughter in the original timeline? Of course, we're missing a crucial piece of the puzzle, as Q also asks him to "remove an obstacle for [him]." As soon as we learn what he asked Soong to do, his plans would become much clearer. Like I said in the beginning, package deal.
"Dr. Soong you were running genetic experiments with a privatized military organization, Spearhead Operations, on soldiers. Unmonitored, unregulated illegal experimentation" - did Soong use fragmented, damaged augment DNA to create his daughter and perhaps his inability to access the original documentation or flaws in the remaining genetic material caused her anatomy to be so unstable? I don't think she was born naturally, specifically for one reason: Kore is a type of ancient Greek statue from the Archaic period, depicting a young female. Knowing the family tradition, if a Soong name has a symbolic meaning, it is guaranteed it was intentional.
Was the Borg Queen transferring herself into Jurati a last-minute act of desperation survive, or is it an actually existing Borg protocol to ensure the Queen's continuity in the rare event that she's disconnected from the Collective when her current body expires? Is she just body-surfing as the proverbial devil on her shoulders, or does she actually have the capability to take over eventually?
Renée is supposed to find a lifeform on Io and Picard talks about its mission as something that had happened, so it's possibly something that needs to happen. Convoluted theorizing of course (which means it'll probably be something way simpler), but the events due to happen in three days might change how humanity rebuilds and reinvents itself after World War 3? Maybe the (presumably, given the location) extremophile alien lifeform Renée is supposed to find would make humanity realize how life is everywhere in infinitely diverse forms, and it would lead to us eventually learning to coexist with life and nature in harmony and not kill our planet; without this, Soong perfecting the cure for his daughter would instead give humanity the ability to survive in more alien environments including the irradiated post-nuclear-exchange hellscape, which would keep us on the path of conquering nature and subjugating life to sustain our needs, no matter the moral or environmental cost.
Well, like I said, convoluted and probably only makes sense in my head. But I still think the mission needs to happen as Picard remembers it, unless Q has already messed with his mind and planted a false memory about the mission there. But maybe Q is placing some red herrings and misleading Picard into thinking Renée is the key while the real change is that Soong was supposed to fail in curing his daughter in the original timeline? Of course, we're missing a crucial piece of the puzzle, as Q also asks him to "remove an obstacle for [him]." As soon as we learn what he asked Soong to do, his plans would become much clearer. Like I said in the beginning, package deal.
"Dr. Soong you were running genetic experiments with a privatized military organization, Spearhead Operations, on soldiers. Unmonitored, unregulated illegal experimentation" - did Soong use fragmented, damaged augment DNA to create his daughter and perhaps his inability to access the original documentation or flaws in the remaining genetic material caused her anatomy to be so unstable? I don't think she was born naturally, specifically for one reason: Kore is a type of ancient Greek statue from the Archaic period, depicting a young female. Knowing the family tradition, if a Soong name has a symbolic meaning, it is guaranteed it was intentional.
Was the Borg Queen transferring herself into Jurati a last-minute act of desperation survive, or is it an actually existing Borg protocol to ensure the Queen's continuity in the rare event that she's disconnected from the Collective when her current body expires? Is she just body-surfing as the proverbial devil on her shoulders, or does she actually have the capability to take over eventually?
John De Lancie, of course? XD
How fitting he lives in the city whose baseball team is basically named The 'The Angels' Angels.
Do you speak Greek?
Not counting marriages (such as Juliana, wife of Noonien and presumably mother of Alton), Kore is the first female Soong we've ever seen. So, yeah.
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Lal supposedly decided on her own appearance, but with the dark hair, it could be posited that Data had something in his programming that made Lal look ever so slightly like Kore.