Petition: Seven of Nine Spinoff

[Llywela]

According to an interview with Del Arco, Seven was slated to be the show's lead character before CBS got Sir Patrick to sign on. So it's not out of the question that they'd decide she was popular enough to go ahead with a spin-off now that he's done.

I'm not sure 'slated to be the show's lead character' is quite correct - that makes it sound like this show was planned and developed with Seven in the lead before pushing her aside for Stewart, which isn't how the development would have worked. More likely that they tossed around a bunch of ideas, with a Seven show being one of them, but Picard clearly the first choice and the one they ran with the moment Stewart said yes, and then this show was developed off the back of that agreement. A Seven show was probably the forerunner if Stewart said no, though.

I would love a spin-off from this show with as many of the existing cast as possible. Give me Seven, sure, but also give me Rios and Stargazer, Raffi, Soji, Agnes and Elnor (if he lives. What a pointless character and waste of potential if he doesn't)

 

[Anduinel]

I'm not sure 'slated to be the show's lead character' is quite correct - that makes it sound like this show was planned and developed with Seven in the lead before pushing her aside for Stewart, which isn't how the development would have worked. More likely that they tossed around a bunch of ideas, with a Seven show being one of them, but Picard clearly the first choice and the one they ran with the moment Stewart said yes, and then this show was developed off the back of that agreement. A Seven show was probably the forerunner if Stewart said no, though.

I would love a spin-off from this show with as many of the existing cast as possible. Give me Seven, sure, but also give me Rios and Stargazer, Raffi, Soji, Agnes and Elnor (if he lives. What a pointless character and waste of potential if he doesn't)

Yes, sorry about that; I was speaking off the cuff. Here's the article and the actual quote: https://www.queerty.com/star-treks-...e-hugh-borg-life-actor-showbiz-peril-20200312

How shocked were you to get the call?

I actually didn’t get a call. We were at the Hollywood Bowl: Jeri Ryan [who played another liberated Borg, Seven of Nine on the spinoff Star Trek: Voyager], Kyle & myself. Jeri has a box. Our mutual friend James Duff who produced Major Crimes and The Closer was working on the show at the time. It was his idea to bring the Borg back. He pitched it to both of us at the same time. I was very skeptical at the time. It was very early on; Patrick hadn’t even signed on yet.

Wow.

At that time, they hadn’t told us that it was Patrick they were going after. They wanted to do a show in that period. If they hadn’t gotten Patrick, it probably would have been Jeri in the lead. There would have been even more Borg stuff. But it was a great full-circle moment.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

Oh, I didn't take your post to mean that the show for Jeri had already been written, or even planned out.

 

[Timofnine]

Ok, this isn’t fair! I’ve just paused watching tonight’s new episode of Star Trek: Picard. It looks like Seven of Nine won’t be getting her Assignment: Earth spin-off show any more as Picard has beat her to it.

I don’t know whether I am sad or happy about this? I’ve never been so confused about the future of Star Trek and my beloved Seven of Nine!

What can Seven of Nine’s new spin off show be now? If this is the Assignment Earth spin-off, then she will have to have a Borg Queen spin-off instead as a ‘good’ Borg Queen, leading the new Borg/Federation cooperative. Or is it possible that she can still have a series based on Assignment: Earth after episode 5 “Fly me to the Moon” pulled the rug from under our feet! Maybe this storyline is the pilot for that series like the original TOS Assignment: Earth episode was supposed to be a pilot?

 

[Danja]

Ok, this isn’t fair! I’ve just paused watching tonight’s new episode of Star Trek: Picard. It looks like Seven of Nine won’t be getting her Assignment: Earth spin-off show any more as Picard has beat her to it.

I don’t know whether I am sad or happy about this? I’ve never been so confused about the future of Star Trek and my beloved Seven of Nine!

What can Seven of Nine’s new spin off show be now? If this is the Assignment Earth spin-off, then she will have to have a Borg Queen spin-off instead as a ‘good’ Borg Queen, leading the new Borg/Federation cooperative. Or is it possible that she can still have a series based on Assignment: Earth after episode 5 “Fly me to the Moon” pulled the rug from under our feet! Maybe this storyline is the pilot for that series like the original TOS Assignment: Earth episode was supposed to be a pilot?

Judging from the audio drama No Man's Land, TPTB seem to be leaning more towards Fenris Rangers.

 

[Timofnine]

Judging from the audio drama No Man's Land, TPTB seem to be leaning more towards Fenris Rangers.

But I (and any other true fan of the character) don’t want Seven of Nine to be a bandit or pirate, I think that the character has always had a greater calling. It’s almost like a Star Wars fan is now writing Star Trek and wants to turn Seven in to a female Luke Skywalker (I have never seen Star Wars, though I understand the story line of that movie).

My top 3 potential spin off series for her are, or were until canon messed everything up:

1. A Star Trek series where Seven of Nine was given a field commission (like cadet Kirk in JJ Trek) to Captain a new Enterprise (F perhaps?) in a post TNG/VOY/DS9 series continuation, well deserved after a combination of unprecedented scientific research and field work during Voyager’s return from the Delta quadrant, and on top of that 20+ years of other non commissioned Starfleet officer experience (similar to Miles O’Brien’s Engineering commissions and promotions too, but whilst on the subject I don’t understood why Harry Kim never got these kind of field commission opportunities?).

2. An Assignment: Earth spin-off about a rag tag group of friends trying to prevent World War III on 21st century Earth (Picard has now beaten us to it, which may or may not exclude this possibility for a spin-off now).

3. A series about a changed and more benevolent Borg and Federation cooperative guided by Seven of Nine as the ‘ambassador’ or ‘bridge’ between the two ever so different ideologies, both of which she has a deep understanding of, hence the new age Borg and Federation recognising the need for such a role as her’s instead of resorting to a Locutus like figure or outright war.

I could have actually removed the need to have a top 3 Seven of Nine spin off series idea wish list and narrowed all of these ideas down in to one series, but it’s always good to have back up plans too!

 

[Danja]

My top 3 potential spin off series for her are, or were until canon messed everything up:

1. A Star Trek series where Seven of Nine was given a field commission (like cadet Kirk in JJ Trek) to Captain a new Enterprise (F perhaps?) in a post TNG/VOY/DS9 series continuation, well deserved after a combination of unprecedented scientific research and field work during Voyager’s return from the Delta quadrant, and on top of that 20+ years of other non commissioned Starfleet officer experience (similar to Miles O’Brien’s Engineering commissions and promotions too, but whilst on the subject I don’t understood why Harry Kim never got these kind of field commission opportunities?).

Seven as Captain of the Enterprise?

Cue hardcore TNG fans' heads exploding in 5, 4, 3 ...

Personally, I think it would be fun to put her in Starfleet (she would have to fight her own bad reputation). She's both too dangerous and too valuable to be left to her own devices (she incited a rebellion aboard the Borg Reclamation Project).

IMHC, Janeway gave Seven a Lieutenant's field commission just before she left Voyager (as a token of gratitude for all the work she did for the crew -- and for helping them get home in seven years).

If she IS commissioned, I see SF commissioning her under her legal name: Annika Hansen.

3. A series about a changed and more benevolent Borg and Federation cooperative guided by Seven of Nine as the ‘ambassador’ or ‘bridge’ between the two ever so different ideologies, both of which she has a deep understanding of, hence the new age Borg and Federation recognising the need for such a role as her’s instead of resorting to a Locutus like figure or outright war.

That's not outside the realm of possibility (Spock and Worf were both named Ambassadors).

Disco has mentioned a "Borg Cooperative" existing in the 32nd century.

 

[Warped1]

I would like to know what happened with Seven and Chakotay.

 

[Danja]

I would like to know what happened with Seven and Chakotay.

Watch Star Trek: Prodigy.

 

[Llywela]

But I (and any other true fan of the character) don’t want Seven of Nine to be a bandit or pirate, I think that the character has always had a greater calling.

The Fenris Rangers are not bandits and they are not pirates. They are peacekeepers, protecting vulnerable colony worlds from bandits and pirates. This has been made crystal clear throughout the show.

 

[Timofnine]

Disco has mentioned a "Borg Cooperative" existing in the 32nd century.

I wish that I had a legal way of watching the latest series of Discovery, but it’s not on Netflix anymore. I’ll binge watch it when it comes back to a mainstream viewing platform.

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

Let's try to not gatekeep who is and isn't a true Seven fan.

I don't see Seven becoming Starfleet. Even Voyager Seven wasn't all that impressed with them. Working with them, sure.

The Fenris angle could lead to all sorts of things. Action/ adventure, but also maybe a more political angle, with non-Federation worlds consolidating/ organizing etc. (Too bad Rillek is not 25th century!)

I did like the potential of Seven working with/ lobbying for the outcast xB's that season 1 hinted at. Hugh even sort of passed the baton to her.

Of course, all of this is kind of moot if she is so annoyed by having people around that she even melted all the Rios holos into one! I mean, I would watch Seven, Lone Ranger any day, but probably not many folks would.

 

[Timofnine]

Let's try to not gatekeep who is and isn't a true Seven fan.

I don't see Seven becoming Starfleet. Even Voyager Seven wasn't all that impressed with them. Working with them, sure

The Fenris angle could lead to all sorts of things. Action/ adventure, but also maybe a more political angle, with non-Federation worlds consolidating/ organizing etc. (Too bad Rillek is not 25th century!)

I did like the potential of Seven working with/ lobbying for the outcast xB's that season 1 hinted at. Hugh even sort of passed the baton to her.

There is probably no point lobbying for a Seven of Nine spin off series anyway, they will probably just randomly kill her off in a 21st century car crash like how they randomly killed off Hugh and Icheb! Or how Kirk randomly fell off a bridge trying to save humanity with Picard… but at least there was meaning to Kirk’s death!

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

Well, then don't.

 

[Timofnine]

Well, then don't.

Not stopping the campaign whilst she is still alive in the prime timeline… unless they randomly kill her off, there is still hope yet! Unless they want to do a mirror universe Seven of Nine spin-off?

 

[Danja]

Let's try to not gatekeep who is and isn't a true Seven fan.

I don't see Seven becoming Starfleet. Even Voyager Seven wasn't all that impressed with them. Working with them, sure.

It was twenty-five years ago. Back then, she was fresh out of the Collective.

People can change during that time.

Not stopping the campaign whilst she is still alive in the prime timeline… unless they randomly kill her off, there is still hope yet! Unless they want to do a mirror universe Seven of Nine spin-off?

If they do that, they risk "drowning their gays" again (they got an earful from the fans after Disco S1 for doing that).

 

[ThreeEdgedSword]

Sure, but my feeling was her opinion SF was perhaps even less favorable now. I could be wrong of course.

What I would really like to see in any spinoff is a glimpse of how/ why she got estranged from the Voyager crew, at least I would assume she'd remain in contact with Naomi, the EMH, and possibly Janeway.

 

[Danja]

Sure, but my feeling was her opinion SF was perhaps even less favorable now. I could be wrong of course.

What I would really like to see in any spinoff is a glimpse of how/ why she got estranged from the Voyager crew, at least I would assume she'd remain in contact with Naomi, the EMH, and possibly Janeway.

Too preoccupied with her own stuff?

If she joins, I predict it'll be because SF dragged her into it (I said earlier she's both too dangerous and too valuable to be left to her own devices).

 

[Timofnine]

What I would really like to see in any spinoff is a glimpse of how/ why she got estranged from the Voyager crew, at least I would assume she'd remain in contact with Naomi, the EMH, and possibly Janeway.

Naomi has probably killed off screen, the EMH deactivated and backwards engineered…. and as for Janeway, well she seems to be ok and doing well? But saying that, is she? We have only seen her as a hologram post Star Trek Nemesis. What happened to the real prime timeline Janeway?

Maybe a Seven of Nine of led spin-off show can investigate…

 

[Danja]

Naomi has probably killed off screen, the EMH deactivated and backwards engineered…. and as for Janeway, well she seems to be ok and doing well? But saying that, is she? We have only seen her as a hologram post Star Trek Nemesis.

Maybe a Seven of Nine of led spin-off show can investigate…

Spoiler

Admiral Janeway is chasing Hologram Janeway.