Oh shoot... I'm sorry, I did not mean to suggest that I had read it that way.
TMP-DE fully restored in 4K…it’s about time!
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Now something like that I could almost understand. Except it ultimately comes down to Paramount paying money to itself. So it seems one way or the other, they could've had the money as long as they wanted to.
But as others have pointed out, it gives them a chance to catch any bugs with the movie before the hard copies start going out. So there's that.
I still have to sit this one out. Sit out all of Streaming Trek in fact until the TMP exclusive window is up. I've already skipped everything over the past year, and I'm fine with that.
Does this depend on the provider? A lot of the conversations around this here have made me more aware of this phenomenon that I largely ignored until recently. I was watching an older show on streaming (Netflix I believe) but everything had been cleaned up and it was on a decent TV with the usual smoothness. If there was a difference from my DVDs to that streaming I would find it minor.
I think he's speaking in general, however the service can definitely be a factor. CBS-AA was known for not having very good streams. I find with streams in general, there's no way to even be fully confident you're getting HD. If there's too many streamers at a time, it doesn't seem like it would take a lot for your stream to arbitrarily determine that your connection wasn't HD worthy.
I have no idea at this point. I figured that streaming just depended on the provider. But, the HD smoothing was definitely present with the TV and Netflix service.
I cut the cord back in 2013 and maybe it’s because I updated to an Apple TV 4K during the pandemic but I feel that for the most part, streaming quality has improved over the past few years in general. Is it perfect? Nope. Will a 4K UHD blow the streams out of the water? Absolutely. But it is better.
There is going to be a screening April 8 at the "Mission Chicago" convention.
https://twitter.com/startrekmission/status/1508836390871527424
https://twitter.com/startrekmission/status/1508836390871527424
And having said all of that, iTunes added both earlier cuts of The Godfather Part III to the digital copy of The Godfather Coda: The Death of Michael Corleone I redeemed in 2020. All three versions are now available in 4K/HDR, so what do I know?
I noticed an interesting change in the trailer to the San Francisco Bay area.
This is the scene in the 2009 Blu-ray release, which I believe matches the original theatrical cut. You can see the airtram station very faintly at the end of the bridge, to the left:
In the 2001 Director's Edition, they replaced it with this wide shot:
And they added a shot of the airtram station:
The new buildings opposite Golden Gate Bridge don't match the ones we'll see in Star Trek IV, though:
So they changed it!
This is now the wide shot in TMP:
Looks like they also re-added the bluish tiles on top of the bridge.
And we get a much sharper view of the airtram station itself:
This is the scene in the 2009 Blu-ray release, which I believe matches the original theatrical cut. You can see the airtram station very faintly at the end of the bridge, to the left:
In the 2001 Director's Edition, they replaced it with this wide shot:
And they added a shot of the airtram station:
The new buildings opposite Golden Gate Bridge don't match the ones we'll see in Star Trek IV, though:
So they changed it!
This is now the wide shot in TMP:
Looks like they also re-added the bluish tiles on top of the bridge.
And we get a much sharper view of the airtram station itself:
Earthquake Zone.
So? This is about restoration, not retconning. They should not add the NX-01 to the display of ships named Enterprise either.
Oh! In that ST IV shot, I never realized the front and rear buildings were one single semi-circular building that wrapped around the central building. My brain always assumed there were 3 separate buildings.
Um.. but they did retcon it.
They shouldn’t have.
Agreed! This kind of lack of vision with these tired retcons display these structures was there all along and Star Trek never had an evolution. I thought it was okay for productions to honor the work done from the previous artists and clean it up, but I find it so disrespectful for modern SFX employees to go back and re-imagine what was done to match what the later movies had developed.
Audiences understand buildings and fixtures get destroyed and later replaced, but there's this need in Hollywood to stamp their egos anyway possible to be relevant. The artists from TVH, and the later incarnations of Trek, who are still alive are still shrouding their influence to springboard these ego driven "Easter Eggs" on these restoration projects. These annoying facelifts are not done for the betterment of the film, or the audience, but for themselves.
Audiences understand buildings and fixtures get destroyed and later replaced, but there's this need in Hollywood to stamp their egos anyway possible to be relevant. The artists from TVH, and the later incarnations of Trek, who are still alive are still shrouding their influence to springboard these ego driven "Easter Eggs" on these restoration projects. These annoying facelifts are not done for the betterment of the film, or the audience, but for themselves.
I couldn't agree with this more than I do. ST should not be a perfectly conformed canon with a bow wrapped around it.
It's probably no coincidence how even when ST retcons itself to pay fanservice, it manages to trip over its own efforts and still get it wrong.
