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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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But I'm sure that they're going to now. Just like the "clever" folks who like to refer to Star Trek discovery as "STD".

Besides, using Sam Alexander would be a magnificent way to piss off the troglodytes over at cosmicbooknews. Com.

Eh, Sam Alexander has a connection to Jeph Loeb, which isn't winning him any favors with the people running the MCU. Plus, Jeph Loeb did/said some racist stuff even before getting removed from having power over Marvel TV, so things that came from Loeb are probably best avoided when possible.

Plus, the comic character Sam Alexander was never particularly popular (not all Marvel teen heroes of the last few years have been hits, and Sam definitely didn't have the success or staying power of Miles Morales or Kamala Khan). Even killing Richard Rider off didn't help Sam get popular, and Richard has definitely made a resurgence in the comics since he came back to life, while Sam basically only exists as a random team member of teen groups like the champions. I also don't see them doing a young teen Nova series at this point.

I'm betting they either just do Richard Rider, but not as a teen and probably not just a generic white guy, or go for an original Nova before they'd do Sam Alexander.
 
Feige was asked point blank in 2021 whether the MCU Nova would be Richard Ryder or Sam Alexander. He said "Well, yes and yes."

So you can expect them both to show up eventually. Maybe both in the same series, or maybe Alexander much later.
 
Are they really going to do a series where the main character's name is "Dick Rider"? Okay. I'd rather they used Sam Alexander for that and several other reasons.

No one ever called him that. :lol:

But I'm sure that they're going to now.
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3 minutes, 10 seconds. ;)

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IDK if it's been posted, but
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness has a runtime of 2 hours and 28 minutes
 
I don't know, that seems pretty average to me, most of them tend to be around 2-2 1/2 hours.
 
Yeah, I would definitely call that average. Just because Endgame and The Batman went extra long doesn't mean CBMs are suddenly all ridiculously long films.
 
Actually, I just went a looked up a bunch of runtimes from the last five-ish years out of curiousity and as far I can tell, if you ignore the handful of blatantly obvious outliers (The Batman, Endgame and the Snyder Cut being the only ones I know of, all of which have very obvious reasons why they wouldn't be average) two and a half hours isn't actually average at all. It's above average. The longest one I could find was two hours and forty minutes. There were a few around 2:30 itself. Most were between 2 hours and 2 and a half (usually closer to 2 hours) and there were actually several below the 2 hour mark.
 
I wish more comicbook films would have a hard 2 hour time limit. Let the few that need/deserve them go longer, like Endgame, but even MCU films I really like, like Captain America TWS and CW, didn't need to be over two hours. Even the excellent No Way Home could probably have been just as good, if not slightly better, if it chopped a half hour off (as long as it was all Tom Holland stuff, not a second should be cut from the villains or other Spider-Men). Eternals could have been cut to 90 minutes and still felt long, and (looking at the MCU runtimes) its the second longest MCU movie after Endgame, which is just completely unjustifiable.

DC has obviously been worse with this, where even great DC films like Aquaman and Shazam probably could have had 10-20 minutes cut off. But both DC and Marvel, and a lot of modern major movies for that matter, seem to want to try peoples patience with runtimes. Even great movies don't need to go on forever, or feel like they do.

Not every movie is, or should be, Endgame or the LOTR trilogy, and sometimes knowing what to cut to make a tighter experience is important, but its something a lot of these movies are reluctant do do.
 
OK, not every movie needs to be 3 hours, but I'm fine with movies like these going to around 2 1/2 hours. These are big movies with lots of characters, and when we're talking about less grounded stuff, like The Eternals, a lot of worldbuilding to do, and you need time to explore that stuff. If you go much shorter you end up with nothing but a bunch of mindless actions scenes with no real character development or story between them.
 
2 hour hard limit is basically the reason we went from a classic like Snyder Cut to the simplistic Whedon Cut...
 
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