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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x03 - "Assimilation"

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Pretty good episode... though I kinda hated the fact that something HAD to have happened and that Rios would end up losing his commbadge.

I have a hankering suspicion that Agnes Jurati will end up as the Borg Queen we saw in the first episode (the one that was assimilating the Stargazer).

Ever since Rios mentioned Agnes' greater degree of comfort with cybernetic systems and digital creations rather than actual people in the previous episode, I started suspecting she might be the Borg Queen we originally saw in the first episode... and now that this Queen was 'impressed' with Jurati (when she said 'I can almost feel it' - the Queen gave her a look and said Jurati managed to impress her)... it kinda reinforces that hypothesis.
Will be interesting to see if it turns out to be the case.
 
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That felt like a slight step down to an 8, though it was a very entertaining episode. There were a few moments of humor throughout which was a nice contrast after last week's darkness.

I really enjoyed Seven beaming onto Earth and that girl asking if she was a superhero. :D

This version of the Borg Queen is much better than the VOY one. Clearly a case of too many visits to the well.
 
Well, that was a bit of a step down...again...in quality. Not a bad episode, but not an amazing one either.

Part of the issue is, much more than the first two, this doesn't feel like an episode - it's just a collection of stuff that needs to happen in order to move the arc forward. We have a quick first act which wraps up the Confederation plot before titles role, then a bunch of shipboard scenes that establish the "mission" and the stakes, as it were, and then finally - around halfway through the episode - we finally get to 2024, and presumably the main plot arc for the season. This has been the third episode straight which is placing items on the table for a new setting, so I hope we're strapped in here for awhile and can enjoy the story.

Elnor's death didn't surprise me after he was shot last week, plus I saw he didn't appear in the promo pics for this week, and we haven't seen any shots of him in the trailers from future episodes. This might be the end of his character on the show. I've thought Evan Evagora's acting has been far and away the worst of the leads, so in a way I won't miss him. On the other hand, he seems like such a wasted opportunity, since they spent an entire episode introducing him and did jack shit with his character ever since. But my biggest issue with the death is that despite the last two episodes trying to sell me on a close relationship between Raffi and Elnor, I just don't buy it. Yes, I know that there were two years of off-camera development of their relationship, but we as viewers didn't get to see it - we saw maybe ten minutes of interactions between them. So a character we barely know/understand died, and another character who we know better is upset because they had a close relationship which developed off camera. Only maybe he's not dead after all - maybe the timeline reset will fix everything. Time will tell.

Unlike some others, I really wasn't sold on the Borg interactions this episode. The initial scene in the opener was great. The scenes with Jurati attempting to link with the Queen were...okay. But I thought this was one of those situations where maybe some more VFX could have helped (like something showing her own POV) because for the most part it's just Alison Pill with a cable stuck to her neck acting weird. The final scene when the Queen is fully awake...this is the kind of Borg Queen I hate, TBH - the kind that reminds me of Voyager. Not creepy and alien, but relatable and a bit catty. It diminishes the Borg seeing them so personified like this. Though I understand she's cut off from the collective, thus effectively an individual at the moment.

I started enjoying the episode a lot more once we finally got some of the characters in Los Angeles in 2024. Raffi and Seven don't get much to do, but they have good chemistry, and I thought their scenes worked well. But Rios's scenes were by far the highlight of the episode. I can't be the only one who's wondering now that they've plopped in down with a single, cute woman who's raising a son alone (and who happens to be Latina) that ultimately he's going to marry her and stay in the 21st century? His getting captured in an ICE raid was a bit on the nose, but Terry Matalas said they wanted to explore contemporary issues this season - I guess immigration is one of them. At least it looks like California got single-payer health insurance in the Trekverse by 2024 though.
 
Sooo.... is Soji just gone from this series? Did I miss something, does anyone know anything about the actress? Feels like a big omission so far.

That being said - I found this episode really dull. Last week was pretty trashy, but in an absolutely fun & entertaining way, everyone hamming it up to eleven. I loved the Borg queen stuff this episode though, again very hamy, but also very entertaining, and I continue to really like Dr. Jurati.

I really don't dig the inter-personal drama. The way Raffi took Elnor's death was more like the first death in a teen horror movie. This is not how adults behave. The Rios stuff was... fine? I don't really see any chemistry between Seven/Raffi, that feels like the Seven/Chakotay last-minute-match-up again.

Also, I have the suspicion the writers aimed for some clever "political commentary" with their "dystopian present/crossroads to a fascist future"-stuff. But it feels more like Becky's highschool essay.

Overall not bad. But I feel the "Netflix bloat" this episode - stuff getting padded to have more screentime with mundane stuff. The first two episodes were a lot tighter and faster paced.
 
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though I kinda hated the fact that something HAD to have happened and that Rios would end up losing his commbadge.

Somehow I wuld have liked it more if Rios were beamed out normally, and then immediately got hit by a car.:lol:

... and then finally - around halfway through the episode - we finally get to 2024, and presumably the main plot arc for the season. This has been the third episode straight which is placing items on the table for a new setting, so I hope we're strapped in here for awhile and can enjoy the story.

I don't know. I'm really not interested in Star Trek doing "present day" stuff. TVH was a good 80s comedy. VOY's "Future's End" a nice nod to that - but as a two-parter absolutely sufficient. And ENT's "Carpenter Street" was just absolute boring. This one sadly just feels like a modern version of the latter.

Present Day stuff is just not the reason I watch Star Trek, or SF in general. There are TONS of better television shows set in present day. I like my future in my future stuff, thank you.
 
Not as good as the first two, but that’s mainly because of how good they were than an indictment on this episode.

This is still slickly produced, highly watchable, super entertaining Trek.

And I might have a crush on Sol Rodriguez now.
 
I don't know. I'm really not interested in Star Trek doing "present day" stuff. TVH was a good 80s comedy. VOY's "Future's End" a nice nod to that - but as a two-parter absolutely sufficient. And ENT's "Carpenter Street" was just absolute boring. This one sadly just feels like a modern version of the latter.

Present Day stuff is just not the reason I watch Star Trek, or SF in general. There are TONS of better television shows set in present day. I like my future in my future stuff, thank you.

You forgot Past Tense, which Matalas has explicitly said is a partial inspiration for this season.
 
Sooo.... is Soji just gone from this series? Did I miss something, does anyone know anything about the actress? Feels like a big omission so far.

It looked like the season preview after the first episode showed the actress in a scene in the past. I've seen some speculation that she plays Soong's daughter or another relative. And take this for what it's worth and may not mean anything, but last fall Isa Briones appeared at a convention in Germany. Around the same time Jeri Ryan tweeted that she couldn't attend a convention due to COVID protocols while she was busy filming.

Soji was such a big part of the first season, it does feel kind of weird that the character will likely not appear in the season beyond the first episode until they get back to their timeline (the finale?)
 
You forgot Past Tense, which Matalas has explicitly said is a partial inspiration for this season.

I wasn't took keen on VOY's Future's End or DS9' crew trip to the past (with the Bell's riots).
I just find Trek time travel to contemporary time be... maybe slightly overdone and not too exciting as the ones done in the 24th century.
It was fine before, but I kinda feel past Trek did all this quite a lot already (along with LA being the setting).
 
You forgot Past Tense, which Matalas has explicitly said is a partial inspiration for this season.

Another episode I just don't really care about, but dare not to say anything because it's a "message episode", and I don't want to come across critizising the message.:guffaw:

I would have liked it as a single episode just fine, but as a two-parter it just doesn't interest me that much, and I see much better (and more on point) social commentary about current stuff in... other shows showing current stuff?

Like, why would I watch a show with space pyjamas in present day suburbs, if I could watch "The Wire" instead?
 
Soji was such a big part of the first season, it does feel kind of weird that the character will likely not appear in the season beyond the first episode until they get back to their timeline (the finale?)

Eh, not really. Picard isn't really an ensemble show...Jean Luc's name is right in the title. Soji was a character explicitly created for Season 1, and if she has no story purpose in Season 2, I'd rather she not be there.
 
I gave it an 8. Yea, not as good as the first two but it was still well done and this is just such a much better start than season 1 (which I also mostly enjoyed). When the season trailer first aired, I was disappointed that they were going to the past but I feel like I'm down for the ride based on what I've seen so far. I think I still do kind of wish we were getting a 25th century based story though (which I'm assuming we will in season 3).

I wasn't completely sold on Jurati going into the Borg Queen's mind and retrieving information. It just seemed too quick and easy. And how did Jurati know her subconscious would remain speaking to Picard? It all just felt very "hand wavey" to have Jurati retrieve the information and set up whatever comes next between her and the borg queen.
 
And take this for what it's worth and may not mean anything, but last fall Isa Briones appeared at a convention in Germany. Around the same time Jeri Ryan tweeted that she couldn't attend a convention due to COVID protocols while she was busy filming
They had already completed work on season two at that point and had begun filming for season three, which has big question marks over several characters. I expect Soji (or some other variant thereof) to appear again later in season two, Isa Briones has been doing press for the show and is still billed as a regular, which suggests she will appear in more than two scenes this season, but who knows. This show is not afraid to have characters go missing for episodes at a time.
 
They had already completed work on season two at that point and had begun filming for season three, which has big question marks over several characters. I expect Soji (or some other variant thereof) to appear again later in season two, Isa Briones has been doing press for the show and is still billed as a regular, which suggests she will appear in more than two scenes this season, but who knows. This show is not afraid to have characters go missing for episodes at a time.

I believe it's only been confirmed that Stewart, Ryan, and Hurd are in Season 3.
 
Eh, not really. Picard isn't really an ensemble show...Jean Luc's name is right in the title. Soji was a character explicitly created for Season 1, and if she has no story purpose in Season 2, I'd rather she not be there.

Soji has more business being on this show than Rios or Elnor to be honest. Not that I'm complaining. But this show went to great lengths to 1:1 reassemble the same crew from season 1.

It feels like the only reason they got rid of her was her positronic brain - if they got her, they wouldn't need the Borg queen for the time travel. And the writers definitely wanted to have the Borg Queen more.
 
Somehow I wuld have liked it more if Rios were beamed out normally, and then immediately got hit by a car.:lol:



I don't know. I'm really not interested in Star Trek doing "present day" stuff. TVH was a good 80s comedy. VOY's "Future's End" a nice nod to that - but as a two-parter absolutely sufficient. And ENT's "Carpenter Street" was just absolute boring. This one sadly just feels like a modern version of the latter.

Present Day stuff is just not the reason I watch Star Trek, or SF in general. There are TONS of better television shows set in present day. I like my future in my future stuff, thank you.

To be fair this isn't "our" present. There's Sanctuary Districts in this present at the very least and rumors seem to show there'll be other things to say that we're not longer traveling to "our" "now."
 
I believe it's only been confirmed that Stewart, Ryan, and Hurd are in Season 3.
That's what I said - that there are big question marks over several characters for season three, which is what was being filmed at the time Isa Briones attended a convention last autumn, but that she will almost certainly be seen again in season two, for which she is still billed as a regular and has been doing press, which you wouldn't expect if she'd only filmed the two scenes we've seen of her so far.
 
Also, technically, Picard is a robot in this show (I always forget - but so do the writers). So why couldn't HE do the time travel calculations if even Spock could have done them? Instead of the Borg queen.
 
I'm hoping Elnor's going to be set right due to time travel hijinks, if for no other reason than it would be particularly cruel to have Raffi lose another kid, then have her heart broken again when her work toward saving him turns out to be all a vain hope. One of the complaints about galaxy/reality ending threats is that they're such huge stakes that they're actually no stakes - there's no doubt the heroes will save the day. I'm guessing that putting Elnor's life on the line is an attempt to give the mission some smaller, more personal urgency.

Still annoying, though, because it means my fave is going to spend at least the next four episodes in a drawer. :ack:
 
Also, technically, Picard is a robot in this show (I always forget - but so do the writers). So why couldn't HE do the time travel calculations if even Spock could have done them? Instead of the Borg queen.

As written so far, he's exactly the same Picard just with an artificial body. He wasn't given extra intelligence, speed, or mental processing power that we've seen.
 
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