Spoilers The NCC-82893 Thread

[Griffeytrek]

It looks like STO stuff, which has nothing to do with the Stargazer design in PIC, other than the ship being a saucer with four nacelles.

Thomas Marrone and Hector Ortiz, the two main Ship Designers for STO are listed in the production credits of Picard Season 2, which was just discovered. Thomas recently posted that he had gotten to do something that he never imagined he would do.

Also while not an exact match to the game art, that window layout that we see in the brief pan up the hull of the Stargazer looks an awful lot like some flavor of an STO Odyssey class. That recessed area on the front of the hull with the broad windows just above and behind the Registry is a tell for the Odyssey/Yorktown/Lexington classes. And the tie in comic had Picard on the USS Verity another Odyssey. So they may be slipping another Beta canon ship into a show. So those not familiar with the STO game designs, the Odyssey is best known as the Enterprise-F.

There is a variant of it that has a more rounded saucer section as well.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

One thing was bothering me and I've realised what: Where are the holograms? There's a Disco/Kelvin-style holographic glass screen at one of the bridge consoles, but the floating consoles of S1 are gone.

Perhaps the choice of float or non-float is up to the captain? Or even the officer manning that post. Some crewmembers might find it easier to use a real, physical console, as opposed to a hologram. Makes sense that floating controls might be toggled by a simple flick of a switch.

What's bothering ME is...yet another new uniform design? It's getting ridiculous. Soon there'll be new uniforms in every damn scene!

 

[F. King Daniel]

What's bothering ME is...yet another new uniform design? It's getting ridiculous. Soon there'll be new uniforms in every damn scene!

Modern Trek is seemingly run by the merchandising department

Season 1 of Picard, 2 uniforms + 2 badges
First half season of Prodigy, 2 uniforms + 2 badges
Season 2 of Picard, 1 new uniform and 2 new badges seen so far
Disco S3 new uniform and badge
Disco S4 another new uniform

 

[Danlav05]

Modern Trek is seemingly run by the merchandising department

Season 1 of Picard, 2 uniforms + 2 badges
First half season of Prodigy, 2 uniforms + 2 badges
Season 2 of Picard, 1 new uniform and 2 new badges seen so far
Disco S3 new uniform and badge
Disco S4 another new uniform

Disco S1 uniforms
Disco S2 Enterprise red-gold-blue variant

 

[GNDN18]

Trek is seemingly run by the merchandising department

 

[F. King Daniel]

One uniform and one pendant in 3 years? We've come a long way

 

[Dukhat]

Thomas Marrone and Hector Ortiz, the two main Ship Designers for STO are listed in the production credits of Picard Season 2, which was just discovered. Thomas recently posted that he had gotten to do something that he never imagined he would do.

Also while not an exact match to the game art, that window layout that we see in the brief pan up the hull of the Stargazer looks an awful lot like some flavor of an STO Odyssey class. That recessed area on the front of the hull with the broad windows just above and behind the Registry is a tell for the Odyssey/Yorktown/Lexington classes. And the tie in comic had Picard on the USS Verity another Odyssey. So they may be slipping another Beta canon ship into a show. So those not familiar with the STO game designs, the Odyssey is best known as the Enterprise-F.

There is a variant of it that has a more rounded saucer section as well.

That’s great that they are working on season 2. Hopefully they will come up with some interesting original ship designs that either

1. Don’t look like something John Eaves created, or

2. Don’t look like DSC ships that are updated to look like late 24th or early 25th century ships.

Why do I say this? Because that’s kinda what I see when I look at STO ships. The former, because everyone seems to think that new ships need to look like an Eaves design, and the latter because there was this big push to ‘refit’ the DSC ships to make versions for a century or two later, but clearly still resemble the original design too much. That’s not being original; that’s just copying and modifying.

What I would like is to see new ships that look nothing like what we’ve seen before. No saucers or nacelles. Something new and different. But I doubt I’m going to get what I want.

As for the STO Enterprise-F? To me it looks like a cross between a Sovereign and an Intrepid. It’s not original in the slightest. I’m hoping that if we do see the F in PIC, that it will be something far better than that.

 

[Markonian]

We got La Sirena, the Bookshelf and 32nd century Starfleet ships that fit those bills.
Lets have some classic, Enterprise-E/-Voyageresque sleek ships again.

 

[Dukhat]

We got La Sirena, the Bookshelf and 32nd century Starfleet ships that fit those bills.
Lets have some classic, Enterprise-E/-Voyageresque sleek ships again.

I respect your opinion, but I gotta disagree. I’m kinda sick of seeing the same general layout with Starfleet vessels. It’s the 25th century; it’s time for something new and original.

 

[fireproof78]

Modern Trek is seemingly run by the merchandising department

Nothing new here.

 

[Griffeytrek]

I respect your opinion, but I gotta disagree. I’m kinda sick of seeing the same general layout with Starfleet vessels. It’s the 25th century; it’s time for something new and original.

To a point. Star Trek is as much a visual and design language as it is anything else. Whenever they deviate to far from that language we get odd incongruent things, like those (store bought) 32 century Starfleet designs that look like they were ordered out of a plumbing supply catalog. (But were in purchased off the shelf from a company that makes generic 3d spaceship assets for videogames). Anytime they go too far outside the expected we get stuff that looks like it belongs in a Mass Effect game.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I’m kinda sick of seeing the same general layout with Starfleet vessels. It’s the 25th century; it’s time for something new and original.

The problem with that is, go too far off track and the viewers won't have anything to relate to.

The simple fact is, everyone expects Trek ships, no matter the century, to have bridges and corridors and viewscreens and controls and all that stuff, so that's how it's always going to be. There'll never be ships without interior layouts, controlled by the crew's thoughts, because there'd be nothing to look at!

I mean, it's a big enough change to do away with transporter rooms (like DSC did). That's as far as they'll ever go.

 

[Dukhat]

The thing is, though, that most Star Trek fans do not watch the show because of the design of the ships. Most Trek fans don’t give a crap about that; it’s only a relatively small percentage of starship nuts (like myself) who care about things like that. So changing the design of a 25th century Starfleet vessel to something that looks nothing like the TOS Enterprise would not adversely affect the viewing audience in the slightest.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

It doesn't seem like it'd benefit anyone but you though.

Personally I'm very happy that Starfleet's got a distinctive style to their ships and I feel like it's a shame that Discovery drifted away from the TOS look a bit too much in its earlier seasons. (I ain't even gonna say what I think about their 32nd century ships, because... well, they get the job done and they don't contradict anything.)

 

[Markonian]

So, just to summarize the Season 2 ships and vehicles we know about already:
La Sirena, a Fenris Ranger ship.
USS Stargazer NCC-82893, a four-nacelled ship (Stargazer class?)
Nova class and Steamrunner class (evil timeline)
Dreadnought USS Enterprise-D (evil painting) - need Eaglemoss model of this!
21st century Earth four-wheeled ground transportation, including a local-law-enforcement variant

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I don't imagine we'll be seeing an Eaglemoss model of that last one.

 

[Markonian]

I don't imagine we'll be seeing an Eaglemoss model of that last one.

Agreed. We didn't get the Aptera from Star Trek, or any smallcraft unique to Star Trek Into Darkness.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

One thing was bothering me and I've realised what: Where are the holograms? There's a Disco/Kelvin-style holographic glass screen at one of the bridge consoles, but the floating consoles of S1 are gone. Which is a shame, because they looked really cool in the old 2009 Countdown comic and PIC season one.

Captain Rios! The first thing the Borg Queen disabled were the holographic interfaces!!! This feels so 2360!

 

[KennyB]

Modern Trek is seemingly run by the merchandising department

It's had the opportunity since 1966.........but for some reason never partners with vendors that deliver much........Eaglemoss and Wand Company being the only real exceptions for me. Anovos and McFarlane Toys being the normal type fiascos........

 

[Tuskin38]

holographic glass screen

How is it holographic? It's just a transparent screen. If it's like the ones in DSC, it's even practical.