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Spoilers Lord of the Rings TV series

The.One.Ring.Net live watch party (in conjunction with Prime) just started so presumably soon.
 
The Hobbit films are fascinating. They achieve something JRRT could not -- to recast The Hobbit in the high fantasy style of The Lord of the Rings. Jackson, once he'd established his visual and narrative idiom his LotR trilogy, continues that idiom in his Hobbit trilogy. It's not true to the book Tolkien wrote in the 1930s, Tolkien tried to rewrite it and couldn't in the 1960s, but Jackson, imho, managed it.

Unsurprisingly, not much to go on...but I love the opening shot which reminds me of Osgiliath but upon further review is obviously not it.

That might be arriving in the Grey Havens.

No second thought. That massive mountain? I bet that's the central mountain on Numenor, so this is one of the port cities on the isle of men. Romenna on the east, the most populated part of the island?
 
As a trilogy, The Hobbit is poorly adapted, I agree.

However, as I've maintained for years after the third film's release, there's an excellent (albeit long) adaptation hidden inside of it trying to break free. I've watched a couple of fan edits that prove this and they're mostly seamless, containing just what's from the original novel, although The Battle of the Five Armies is still a bit unwieldy in both versions thanks to so much happening before Bilbo finally gets the knock on the head. I know its unlikely we'll ever get an official release of just the novel as a single film, but at least there are edits out there that allows viewers to enjoy The Hobbit properly.

In other words, as Reverend already noted, PJ didn't have the restraint he showed with Lord of the Rings and needed a better editor the second time around.
I've seen (though not actually watched) a lot of fan edits of the Hobbit movies that attempt to wrangle it into just one or two (long) movies, but what I'm waiting for is the edit that attempts to break the whole thing up into 8-10 episodes of about 40-60mins apiece, thereby turning it into a series. That way at least a lot of the seemingly extraneous stuff suddenly becomes useful, since you actually need these little extra action beats and set pieces in every other episode. Even the extra character stuff could actually be given room to breath since it need not always be intercutting with 57 other things happening at once.
You can just take one episode to go off and follow Gandalf and do the Necromancer thread and it wouldn't feel so out of place. You could have an episode that focuses in on Bard so it doesn't seem like he just wandered in from another movie. Hell, Riddles in the Dark could and probably should be an almost entirely self contained 20 minute episode unto itself.

Sadly the only person that can reasonably do that is Peter Jackson, and I don't blame him for not wanting to ever go near the thing ever again.
 
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Whatever has happened to Peter Jackson after the Hobbit? Looks like he only did a few documentaries afterward. Seems like something ugly must of gone on behind the scenes of the Hobbit if he has basically ditched directing movies ever since.
 
I couldn't help myself but Elrond needs to answer some questions.

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I couldn't help myself but Elrond needs to answer some questions.
I mean it's not like he was of much use the first time round. Just stood there and watched Isildur wander off with the evil ring of doom.
Whatever has happened to Peter Jackson after the Hobbit? Looks like he only did a few documentaries afterward. Seems like something ugly must of gone on behind the scenes of the Hobbit if he has basically ditched directing movies ever since.
These days I think he mostly just collects WWI biplanes.
Honestly he's probably made more than enough money to never have to work again anyway, so one can't exactly blame him for semi-retiring and just doing the odd little passion project.
 
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Unsurprisingly, not much to go on...but I love the opening shot which reminds me of Osgiliath but upon further review is obviously not it.

I'm honestly a bit underwhelmed. It looks ok I guess, but nothing here screams LOTR to me. It feels very generic fantasy. Which isn't a bad thing perse.
 
I've seen (though not actually watched) a lot of fan edits of the Hobbit movies that attempt to wrangle it into just one or two (long) movies, but what I'm waiting for is the edit that attempts to break the whole thing up into 8-10 episodes of about 40-60mins apiece, thereby turning it into a series. That way at least a lot of the seemingly extraneous stuff suddenly becomes useful, since you actually need these little extra action beats and set pieces in every other episode. Even the extra character stuff could actually be given room to breath since it need not always be intercutting with 57 other things happening at once.
You can just take one episode to go off and follow Gandalf and do the Necromancer thread and it wouldn't feel so out of place. You could have an episode that focuses in on Bard so it doesn't seem like he just wandered in from another movie. Hell, Riddles in the Dark could and probably should be an almost entirely self contained 20 minute episode unto itself.

Sadly the only person that can reasonably do that is Peter Jackson, and I don't blame him for not wanting to ever go near the thing ever again.
That could be interesting and someone might be working on that.

But for the time being, I'm content with the fan edit I've got.

Whatever has happened to Peter Jackson after the Hobbit? Looks like he only did a few documentaries afterward. Seems like something ugly must of gone on behind the scenes of the Hobbit if he has basically ditched directing movies ever since.
You mean the two critically-acclaimed documentaries he produced? Yeah, he's done nothing at all...
 
That could be interesting and someone might be working on that.

But for the time being, I'm content with the fan edit I've got.


You mean the two critically-acclaimed documentaries he produced? Yeah, he's done nothing at all...
I am talking about blockbuster movies. He seems to be done with them. Documentaries are very much in the opposite direction of what he used to make, hence why I think something behind the scenes put him off of movies
 
I'm still trying to process it.. At first, I thought I was watching a video game ad. There was just something off-putting to me about it. Maybe it's the way the colors presented themselves on my fancy TV.. It came off more Hobbit than LOTR. I loved the grittier/real feel the LOTR trilogy had to it. And maybe that is a technological thing too. I dunno.. I'll be watching the show, of course, but the look and feel will take some getting used to.
 
I am talking about blockbuster movies. He seems to be done with them. Documentaries are very much in the opposite direction of what he used to make, hence why I think something behind the scenes put him off of movies
Perhaps a severe case of Lucasitis - a movie is not improved by chucking in all the ingredients at once plus the kitchen sink and old Uncle Tom Cobley and all. Best to keep in the background as a producer and let new talent come forth. Also perhaps he's done everything he wanted to do, including getting three Oscars, and felt he wanted to move on? Or perhaps just taking a break...

The teaser trailer looks gorgeous. I have no problem with Middle-earth looking different in the Second Age before Arda was reshaped. A good deal of Middle-earth plus Númenor was under water in the Third Age.
 
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Unsurprisingly, not much to go on...but I love the opening shot which reminds me of Osgiliath but upon further review is obviously not it.

It sure looks gorgeous, now fingers crossed that they have written a good story and that the actors are good ( i was and am not a Wheel of Time fan and the show did nothing to really grab me, especially because i thought the main actors were really sub par).
 
I wasn't particularly bothered by the timeline compression until someone pointed out that the since show begins in with the rings forging, the Men who become Nazgul only have the length of the series (which we presume ends with Saurons defeat) to be corrupted, and that seems really fast.
 
I love LOTR, have read the trilogy (and The Hobbit) numerous times and watched all the films many times, but I have to say I am not hyped based on that trailer. You could have told me it was a trailer for Wheel of Time, Chronicles of Shannara or any other random Fantasy series and I would have believed you. Out of that whole trailer, the only character I thinki I might have identified was the blonde woman being Galadriel, but even then I'm using a google search and context clues to figure that out, the only thing she seems to have in common with the original character is her hair color.

Also, while the effects look fine, the whole show looks a lot like The Hobbit films to me, visually speaking, and that isn't good. The fact that they're abandoning New zealand filming for Season 2 is probably going to end up making the bits of the show nort filmed on green screen look even worse.

I'll obviously be watching the show, I desperately want more Fantasy shows that aren't grimdark rape fests or YA romances (which is about all we get nowadays, especially after GOT, everything is either disgustingly grim or fluffy tween crap) and this show seems to be not going to either of those extremes. At the bare minimum, its got to be better then Amazon's other fantasy show, Wheel of Time.
 
The trailer doesn't give us much of an idea of the story, or the acting, but one this is for sure, this show is going to look amazing. They definitely put the money they spent on it to good use.
Whatever has happened to Peter Jackson after the Hobbit? Looks like he only did a few documentaries afterward. Seems like something ugly must of gone on behind the scenes of the Hobbit if he has basically ditched directing movies ever since.
He also co-wrote and produced Mortal Engines, which was directed by Christian Rivers, who I believe was kind of a protege of his.
 
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