Spoilers Book of Boba Fett [Spoiler Discussion]

[Finn]

Speaking of Tatooine, is it my imagination or is the place become more busy / popular?

I mean, a regular daily transport from the ring station to Tatooine, which is supposed to be a complete backwater? (The droid who took Din's weapons said he could catch the next day's flight if he wanted to speak to a manager.)

That's like a daily flight from LAX to Blythe. I know, plot...

But for a place that's 'as far from the center of the universe as you can get,' Tatooine sure sees a lot of action. Almost everything we've seen on Tatooine could have happened on Navarro. Not sure I spelled that right.

Don't get me wrong, though. I like Tatooine as much as the next fan.

To be fair, that was Luke's opinion. Also, we don't really know how familiar he was with the towns. He seemed out of place when they went into town in ANH, as if he wasn't used to it.

I bet two latinum bars that there are folks who lived in NYC all of their lives who would consider Des Moines in middle of nowhere while rural folks would think Des Moines has a riveting and vibrant culture nightlife.

 

[cooleddie74]

I come from a city of barely 100,000 people. To some here this IS vibrant nightlife.

 

[Jayson1]

You know the more I think about it, the more I feel like this isn't really a Boba Fett show, just as 'The Mandalorian' isn't really the Dyn and Grogu show. All of them together make up a sort of extended anthology show, not all that dissimilar to the Clone Wars format. We've just had the Boba Fett version of 'Witches of the Mist' these last four episodes, then we hand off for the Dyn and Grogu 'Brothers' duology before culminating in big 'Eminence'/'Lawless' finale.

Indeed at this rate I wouldn't be shocked if there's a scene in Kenobi with a young Cobb Vanth, and I wouldn't be mad about it.

Bounty Hunting is a small galaxy it seems; pretty much everyone in the life seems to know or at least know of everyone else of consequence.

While there's nothing else featuring those two besides 'The Bad Batch', it's been going on 30 years since they first met right after the Clone Wars, so a lot could have happened in that time. They could have run into each other any number of times since then, under any number of circumstances from enemies to allies and everything in-between.
One assumes if there's any interaction there, they'll play it safe to allow future storytellers some freedom.

Not sure if this correct. I think we might not know until we see if they repeat this in the Ahsoka show but it does kind of make sense and I got to say if that is true I am cool with it.

 

[Kor]

Luke said, "If there's a bright center to the universe, you're on the planet that it's farthest from."

I think that does leave room for all sorts of unsavory goings-on that typical moisture farming homesteaders try not to think about too much.

Kor

 

[StarMan]

Can we please just BURN/erase any negatives/digital media of the so called sequel trilogy, forget it ever existed, and go forward with our favorite STAR WARS characters from here?...Please...

I'm pretty sure the sequel trilogy is part of the Kelvin timeline.

 

[Reverend]

Regarding the amount of traffic to Tattooine; one thing to remember is that after any war you're going to see mass migrations of displace peoples from all corners. And this was a war that saw one planet atomised by a Death Star, and dozens more rendered uninhabitable by Operation Cinder. It would take quite a while for all of that activity to settle down, and quieter places that didn't see conflict would be where a lot of refugees would seek sanctuary, even trickling down to even less desirable places like Tatooine. Hell, I wouldn't be shocked is some crazy buggers were attempting to resettle Geonosis at this point. Plenty of salvage and prebuilt subterranean habitats...if you don't mind clearing out all the trillions of bug corpses.

I come from a city of barely 100,000 people. To some here this IS vibrant nightlife.

Pfft. I grew up in a rural area where you could barely scrape together 20,000 in a ten mile radius. And the closest "city" was just an overgrown market town. The nightlife consisted of "a pub". Or alternatively "two or three pubs in town".
My first trip to London was shall we say, a culture shock (and an olfactory one.)

Like I said, it's all relative.

To be fair, that was Luke's opinion. Also, we don't really know how familiar he was with the towns. He seemed out of place when they went into town in ANH, as if he wasn't used to it.

I get the sense Archorhead is about the extent of his experience, and that's supposed to be a fairly small one eopie town, mostly where the local farmhands live and you have places like Toche station for the range farmers to buy or order in supplies they can't trade for with the Jawas.

I think he did go to Mos Eisley with Owen in the comics as a child, so he's not entirely unfamiliar, but it'd be a rarity and thought of as a trip to the "big city", and definitely wouldn't stick around for the nightlife scene. Mos Espa is even further away, but he did fly up through beggars canyon in his airspeeder, so I guess that's not out of the question. I think the barrier to entry there is being able to afford the docking fees to park the speeder without risking getting it stolen, so it's probably flybys only.

 

[Sketcher]

When the very definition of a big city is Coruscant, anything else is going to come off as small.

 

[JD]

I have to admit, I was a little disappointed that Luke continued the whole not attachments thing. I never really cared for that in the Prequels, and was hoping Luke wouldn't continue that tradition in his new order.

 

[BigJake]

So... 7 out of 10 for Ep. 6, I think.

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There's some cool stuff here: it's always welcome to see Grogu and Ahsoka and get to spend a bit more time with Mando, and the frontier Marshal from Mos Wherever was a great callback. Great Space Western stuff with the sinister Syndicate gunslinger, and hints of The Untouchables and gangland Chicago in the Mos Espa brothel bombing.

Deepfake Luke Skywalker was a little... unsettling, and I'm not sure we really needed an extended reprise of TESB's training sequence featuring Luke and Grogu. I get this is fanservice for the people who felt cheated out of Wise Master Luke in the Last Jedi, but I don't see the point of investing quite this much time into it in a series that's supposed to be about someone else's story. And I guess I'm not the hugest fan of sidelining the series lead for two consecutive episodes. I'm ultimately in it to watch Temuera Morrison chew scenery as Boba Fett and that's what I want more of.

 

[Reverend]

One weird thing I keep seeing fans (and certain youtube "trivia" channels) bring up is that the Rebellion comic from a little while back showed Yoda rebuilding his lightsaber on Dagobah. That didn't sound right to me so I re-read that issue and that 100% does not happen. Indeed there's a whole bit there about how he explicitly *doesn't* have his sabre, that he's decided it's part of his penance to never use one again, and so he builds himself a bow to go hunting, because as if the sharp pointed teeth, claws, and Grogu's dietary preference weren't evidence enough, his species is primarily carnivorous.
Hell I've seen some outlet showing these very same panels, claiming it's him building a sabre. That's just astonishingly poor fact checking.

I'm not saying this is proof of any continuity error or anything, since the comic can be ignored without loosing anything; it's just bizarre how so many seem to just blindly parrot "facts" without double checking. Even more bizarre when the supposed source says the exact opposite of what is being claimed.

I have to admit, I was a little disappointed that Luke continued the whole not attachments thing. I never really cared for that in the Prequels, and was hoping Luke wouldn't continue that tradition in his new order.

It's not a tradition, it's part of the Jedi code. It's fundamental to their beliefs. This is why being a Jedi is a choice, not an obligation. It's a commitment to a life of serving others before yourself. It's not for everyone, nor should it be.

If anyone has and doubts about the wisdom of this philosophy, just look at what attachment did to Anakin.

 

[Xerxes82]

So, have we talked yet about how this episode is the basically the entirety of the Star Wars Multimedia Empire?

PT: Ahsoka, Cad Bane, Grogu's Order 66 flashback.
OT: Luke, R2
ST: Luke's academy

Film: Luke
Cartoon: Ahsoka, Cad Bane
TV: Din, Fennec
Comics: Krrsantan
Novels: Cobb Vanth

All we're really missing is the video games, and those got a callout last week with Peli's BD droid.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

It also featured Boba Fett from the Star Wars Holiday Special, which I think needs a category all for itself somewhere properly isolated from the other categories.

 

[dupersuper]

He can use the force. :P

Now I'm picturing a floating light saber a'la Alucard in Castlevania.

If anyone has and doubts about the wisdom of this philosophy, just look at what attachment did to Anakin.

That's an excellent example of why it's a stupid idea.

All we're really missing is the video games, and those got a callout last week with Peli's BD droid.

Some one said they got a call out this episode as well when a townsperson yelled for a stim pack after the marshal was shot.

 

[EnderAKH]

Cad Bane...? What, who works for his boss, Baddie Evilguy? I mean isn't that a little too on the nose?

 

[fireproof78]

Cad Bane...? What, who works for his boss, Baddie Evilguy? I mean isn't that a little too on the nose?

Not in this franchise.

 

[Reverend]

So, have we talked yet about how this episode is the basically the entirety of the Star Wars Multimedia Empire?

PT: Ahsoka, Cad Bane, Grogu's Order 66 flashback.
OT: Luke, R2
ST: Luke's academy

Film: Luke
Cartoon: Ahsoka, Cad Bane
TV: Din, Fennec
Comics: Krrsantan
Novels: Cobb Vanth

All we're really missing is the video games, and those got a callout last week with Peli's BD droid.

If anything I think this is LF showing how they don't distinguish between "movie characters", "animation characters" or "print media characters". They're all just "Star Wars characters".
At this point, I wouldn't be shocked if (for the sake of argument) in 'Ahsoka' there's a scene where she buys an old holocron from Aphra, and on it we see a recording of Avar Kriss talking about the history of Darth Revan. They're that willing to pull from multiple sources.

That's an excellent example of why it's a stupid idea.

Because having attachments made him such a well balanced, even tempered individual not prone to acts of mass murder when he can't get his way? Yeah that checks out . . .

 

[dupersuper]

Because having attachments made him such a well balanced, even tempered individual not prone to acts of mass murder when he can't get his way? Yeah that checks out . . .

Because denying human connection is not a method for attracting and keeping well adjusted individuals.

 

[Reverend]

Because denying human connection is not a method for attracting and keeping well adjusted individuals.

Again with the misapprehensions.

Attachment is not a synonym for connection or companionship. Jedi live communally; so they're always surrounded and supported by others. They can have friends who aren't Jedi (like Dex and Tarfful). They can even fuck if so inclined (sometimes each other.) Indeed while not encouraged, it's treated as fairly normal for the padawans to sneak in and out of each other's beds, if you follow me.

It becomes an "attachment" when one can't let go when need be. When one becomes possessive. When one treats that person as more important than anyone else. When emotion overrides reason, and passion becomes a selfish driving force in decisions.

You can have companionship without becoming attached. You cannot have attachments to the few or the one, and be dedicated to selfless service of the whole.

None of this is obligatory of course, but it is mutually exclusive. If Anakin wanted to marry Padme openly, he could have, no problem. All he had to do was leave the order and he'd live a comfortable life as the husband of a wealthy senator, pursue almost any career and lifestyle he wanted. He'd even be allowed to stay in contact with Obi-Wan if he wanted.
But he didn't because he didn't want to give up the power being a Jedi afforded him. He wanted it all for himself.

 

[Xerxes82]

Because denying human connection is not a method for attracting and keeping well adjusted individuals.

The Jedi don't deny human connection. At all. They put their calling ahead of those connections. There is an important difference there. Jedi are perfectly capable of friendship and even love. But to serve the Force, the galaxy as a whole and, at a fundamental level, life itself you can't let those connections bind you or deter your focus.

Compare Anakin's arc to Kanan's. Kanan loved Hera, and all the Spectres. He sacrificed his life to save them. He loved selflessly, and acted in their best interest rather than his own. Anakin loved Padme in a way that made him selfish and led him to abandon his commitment to other lives in favor of hers alone. Even then, it wasn't about saving Padme as much as it was about his fear of losing her. He acted in his own self interest. And the results speak for themselves. 20 years of unfettered darkness under the Empire.

And what happened to Anakin didn't happen because the Jedi set aside attachments. It happened because the Jedi had become so dogmatic and monastic that there was nobody left to recognize a young man was struggling emotionally, and to help him through the challenges he faced on that front. They were too cold, too cut off. Too certain of their own place in the order of things.

Luke isn't making that same mistake. He recognizes that Grogu is struggling, and he confronts that. He very clearly lays out the path before Grogu if he should choose to become a Jedi, and lays out the sacrifices that must be made to walk that path. Then he presents an alternative. There is no judgement made about which is correct, or superior. No simple command to put aside his feelings, no guilt or shame implied in the choosing. Luke simply wants Grogu to choose the path that best suits him. Yeah, the format of the choice comes across a little cold, but I think the starkness of it is necessary to really convey the sacrifice that Luke is asking.

 

[dupersuper]

I'm still firmly on the side of those who think it's a terrible idea Luke should've left in the past.