the 1989 novel was by one member of the "L.A. Graf" collective, Julia Ecklar - and the ship on the cover of that novel was not the same one - it was lifted from The Spaceflight ChronologyIt’s actually the U.S.S. Kobayashi Maru from the 2009 J.J. Abrams film (which STO then subsequently used):
Then again, going from what Memory Alpha says, the design of the Kelvin Timeline-version of the ship by John Eaves and Alex Jaeger was based upon the 1983 fandom-blueprints (which I still have), as well as upon the basic design of the ship as seen on the cover of the 1989 "L.A. Graf" novel, so that's rather interesting.
Actually it isn't quite. The USS Kobayashi Maru in the 2009 movie had an engineering hull down the centre of the saucer. Some of the earliest concept art and many fan-made recreations based on it lack that, and this appears to be based on that earlier concept art.It’s actually the U.S.S. Kobayashi Maru from the 2009 J.J. Abrams film (which STO then subsequently used):
Then again, going from what Memory Alpha says, the design of the Kelvin Timeline-version of the ship by John Eaves and Alex Jaeger was based upon the 1983 fandom-blueprints (which I still have), as well as upon the basic design of the ship as seen on the cover of the 1989 "L.A. Graf" novel, so that's rather interesting.
Definitely -- that's why I mentioned "basic design," there, not the actual full design. It's very rough, but the influence is there. (Was going to post that cover-image also, but got too lazy last night.)the 1989 novel was by one member of the "L.A. Graf" collective, Julia Ecklar - and the ship on the cover of that novel was not the same one - it was lifted from The Spaceflight Chronology
Ah, gotcha -- thanks. I did a quick side-by-side comparison of that shot from the 2009 movie with the one seen in STO, but didn't catch that.
It's not at all influenced - or the same basic design - the cover artist picked a random, unrelated ship — the Tritium class i believe —out of the Spaceflight Chronology and put it on the cover.
You're not quite getting it.
You're not quite getting it.
The mistaken use of the Tritium class design on the cover of Julia Ecklar's Kobayashi Maru did NOT influence JJ Trek or any other uses - in JJ Trek the Kobayashi Maru was the ship from the fan-made blueprints, which does not bear any similarity to the Tritium class
According to the Spaceflight Chronology, the Tritium class was an experimental starship that was never put into service. it was a geometric main hull with three warp nacelles, connected to each other with additional struts (the third only apparently connected to the other two nacelles and not the main body). it never had any association with the Kobayashi Maru except for being pictured on the novel
The fan-made design that was later adopted by canon is a saucer with two nacelles and two additional outboard hulls. with the exception that they were both starships with more than one nacelle they had no other "basic design" in common. this is the design that influenced later works such as JJ's Trek, STO and The Romulan War.
At the time I hated that novel for taking THIS fan blueprint set and awkwardly squishing the backstory from April-era to Archer-era. The idea of the KM being a Klingon ship didn't make sense in the novel's backstory since first contact with the Klingons was only 4 years prior...
Practically no one, looking at Memory Beta.
I recall that was offered to her in 2009 and she declined. Also, Nichelle's health and conservatorship status suggests to be it won't happen.
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