Spoilers Why I think Discovery is ending after season 4

[gvn2fly]

Makes sense then why Ross Perot -- sorry, I mean Chart Guy -- didn't show any stats for that week.

But on a more serious note: I'm actually interested in seeing 1883.

I haven't watched Yellowstone yet, but I've been watching 1883 and I think it's very good so far. It has become a must watch show for me. Mayor of Kingstown's critic reviews turned me off at first, but the audience reviews seem good so I plan to give it a watch also. I also need to check out Yellowstone at some point now that I'm becoming invested in that universe.

 

[Vger23]

Holy shit, I swear I just don't care how well Disco or any Star Trek is doing in comparison with Mayor of Kingstown, SEAL Team or whatever.

But...but...how then can I rationalize how RIGHT I am???? How can I WIN an argument???

I personally don't watch anything on TV other than SF/fantasy...unless it's a documentary.

100%

I get so many recommendations for shows that people don't seem to understand that I will never, ever watch.

"Hey do you watch that new MCU show The Whiz on Disney+?" No, I don't give a shit about superheroes
"Oh, bro...you GOTTA watch this great organized crime epic The Incinerator on FX!" No, I don't care about crime or police shows.
"Oh dude, if you're not watching The Best of Us on Netflix, you are missing a great family drama" Nah, can't give 2 shites about that.

But if it has spaceships or other sf elements to it, I'm most likely at least willing to give it a shot.

That and sports.

That's about it.

[QUOTE="Char Kais, post: 14013754, member: 81321"

So Discovery was the number one show on the service for most of the month, 17 out of 31 days of December ,and I just randomly checked 4 days when it wasn't #1 and it was 2nd or 3rd...and you actually think this is a failure?

<<. Taylor Sheridan is ViacomCBS' new golden boy. I think ViacomCBS will reevaluate how much money they put into NuTrek for what they are getting in return.>>

1883 costs more per episode than Discovery and has been #1 on only 4 days in the month since the show premiered. Mayor of Kingstown has also been ranked lower than Discovery since it started...it's only been in the top slot on 3 days this month since the show premiered in November. Discovery was the top show on 25 days since Mayor premiered. And has already been posted, Discovery has been Paramount's most watched show. Looks like Paramount is getting quite a bit from the money they are putting into Star Trek...which is why they are putting more money into the franchise.

I will never understand why people feel the need to go through the level of mental gymnastics just to prove that their subjective opinion MUST be "right." Why does it matter so much to them? Who cares? There is some stuff I love that I'm pretty sure nobody else on the planet would agree with....I don't go on a crusade to prove I'm right with charts, graphics and YouTube videos.

I just go on with my life.

 

[fireproof78]

I will never understand why people feel the need to go through the level of mental gymnastics just to prove that their subjective opinion MUST be "right." Why does it matter so much to them? Who cares? There is some stuff I love that I'm pretty sure nobody else on the planet would agree with....I don't go on a crusade to prove I'm right with charts, graphics and YouTube videos.

I just go on with my life.

Indeed. It's quite confusing.

 

[Takeru]

But if it has spaceships or other sf elements to it, I'm most likely at least willing to give it a shot.

Then you really should give the MCU a shot, it's full of aliens, spaceships and other sci-fi elements. The entire MCU is triggered by aliens and alien tech having come to earth and the fallout from that, the sci-fi elements are kind of in the background at the start and mostly justify the main characters getting powers but Avengers is about an alien invasion and it gets bigger from there. Later movies go all in on the sci-fi aspects, Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor Ragnarok barely feature earth at all and even the movies that are primarily set on earth are drenched in sci-fi.

 

[Vger23]

Indeed. It's quite confusing.

And don't get me wrong...it can be fun debating it sometimes. I like TFF and I love talking to people about it, particularly because most people don't view it the same way I do.

But, never in a million years would I try to convince someone that TFF is "good" and that they are "wrong." Because

1. That's crazy talk
2. I don't care

I just enjoy sharing my perspectives on it with people, and hearing them talk about it...because I know it's an outlying opinion and its a lot more fun and controversial to discuss than saying "Hay guyz, I think Yesterday's Enterprise is reely guuud!" But otherwise, it's not something I'd ever think of arguing and trying to PROVE to people.

I'm a Whacky McWhackerson, though....

 

[Vger23]

Then you really should give the MCU a shot, it's full of aliens, spaceships and other sci-fi elements. The entire MCU is triggered by aliens and alien tech having come to earth and the fallout from that, the sci-fi elements are kind of in the background at the start and mostly justify the main characters getting powers but Avengers is about an alien invasion and it gets bigger from there. Later movies go all in on the sci-fi aspects, Guardians of the Galaxy and Thor Ragnarok barely feature earth at all and even the movies that are primarily set on earth are drenched in sci-fi.

I appreciate this, but there's just not a chance in hell. It's just not my thing. I'd rather go to an insurance seminar and sit naked on a rusty cheese grater than watch a superhero show or movie.

The only other "fan favorite genre giant" I care even less about than MCU are the Lord of the Rings movies.

Just not for me.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I don't know, most of the MCU movies and shows are more like other genres with superheroes in them. They're also getting increasingly into the weirder stuff from the comics, like Earth being an egg for a giant space being that creates galaxies or the multiverse or centering the emotional climax of a movie on a talking racoon crying because he realized his friends really did care about him.

 

[Takeru]

I appreciate this, but there's just not a chance in hell. It's just not my thing. I'd rather go to an insurance seminar and sit naked on a rusty cheese grater than watch a superhero show or movie.

The only other "fan favorite genre giant" I care even less about than MCU are the Lord of the Rings movies.

Just not for me.

That makes no sense to me but you do you. I still think you'd enjoy some MCU movies, Guardians of the Galaxy is a space adventure and should be right up your alley.

 

[Vger23]

That makes no sense to me but you do you. I still think you'd enjoy some MCU movies, Guardians of the Galaxy is a space adventure and should be right up your alley.

I’ve watched GotG. It was painful and uninteresting.

Like I said…zero interest. Like NONE. Nil. Empty set. Nada.

So yes, I’ll do me.

 

[gvn2fly]

I’ve watched GotG. It was painful and uninteresting.

Like I said…zero interest. Like NONE. Nil. Empty set. Nada.

So yes, I’ll do me.

Have you watched the show The Expanse yet? It has set the bar for space based science fiction in my opinion.

 

[Vger23]

Have you watched the show The Expanse yet? It has set the bar for space based science fiction in my opinion.

Yes, and it’s excellent. I just finished S6 yesterday, in fact.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I will never understand why people feel the need to go through the level of mental gymnastics just to prove that their subjective opinion MUST be "right." Why does it matter so much to them? Who cares? There is some stuff I love that I'm pretty sure nobody else on the planet would agree with....I don't go on a crusade to prove I'm right with charts, graphics and YouTube videos.

I just go on with my life.

Well said.

It all seems to be rooted in a strange kind of insecurity. Like, it's not good enough to say one doesn't like something apparently. For some reason, some people require spurious 'evidence' to back up their opinions.

YouTubers like Nerdrotic and Doomcock have tapped into a cottage industry of people who need such validation. "The shouty man on YouTube agrees with me and he has X amount of subscribers so I'm right!".

There's lots of Star Trek I like that isn't well loved by others. I would for example rate Voyager above Deep Space Nine. I'm aware this is a minority opinion, but it's mine and I don't need to 'prove' anything.

Anyway, as Season 5 of Discovery has been greenlit, surely this thread is redundant now?

 

[Tim Thomason]

Anyway, as Season 5 of Discovery has been greenlit, surely this thread is redundant now?

It needs to be retitled to "Why I think Discovery is ending after season 5".

 

[Awesome Possum]

It needs to be retitled to "Why I think Discovery is ending after season 5".

Moving the goalposts is only option left other than just moving on and finding something better to do.

 

[Lord Garth]

Even though I think the show will run seven seasons, I'm hoping for an eighth and beyond. With shorter seasons, DSC won't feel as "old" after seven seasons as TNG and VOY did. DS9 kept on adding and adding, so I think it could've gone passed seven seasons too.

What I like about DSC is that it too keeps adding and adding. The more we find out about the 32nd Century, the more I want to see of it. I think they can get a lot more mileage out of this series than most people seem to believe.

 

[Awesome Possum]

10 seasons and a movie.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I don't think we should be locked into the idea of 7 for traditions sake. Considering the episode count is reduced in comparison to TNG/DS9/VOY then we could have 5 seasons or 15...

Basically, I think they should end it when they are done with it. I think 5 is actually a good number but the landscape is so different now than in the Berman era so it could be 6, 7, 8... Who knows?

I'm definitely not up for a movie. Just my thoughts, but I think Star Trek has a very spotty record in translating itself to the big screen. I'd rather any future Trek movies be entirely separate entities to whatever is on TV.*

*Basically, more Kelvin please. Kelvin forever.

 

[Nerys Myk]

We just need to change the thread title to "Why I think Discovery is ending after season TBD"

 

[Richard S. Ta]

We just need to change the thread title to "Why I think Discovery is ending after season TBD"

"Why I think Discovery will end at an indeterminate point in the future".

 

[Lord Garth]

"Why I think Discovery will end at an indeterminate point in the future".

"The Title of my Thesis Paper for B-School. That's lingo for Business School. Let me get out my Power Point presentation. Here we go. My conclusion is based on lack of Return On Investment, which I will cover in detail. But before I properly begin, let me say that all of this is based on consumer interest and what the average hard-working American is willing to spend from what they've earned thanks to Trickle Down Economics originally pioneered by former President Ronald Reagan...

yadda, yadda, yadda...

yakkity shmack...

... And let us not forget the sheer folly of a Franchise that purports to champion a Humanity that has outgrown the need for material wealth and is not driven by a monetary economy. Did Gene Roddenberry nor his successors realize that Star Trek only exists because of the studio's interest in money; which it fails to provide? Money is the lifeblood of all civilization, contrary to what Star Trek claims.

blah, blah, blah...

Now, after all that, here's the reason why I think STD sucks. Sorry for the lack of professionalism. I meant to say here's the reason why I believe Star Trek: Discovery to be an inferior product. I've bullet-pointed a list of 93 items...

wot-ta-wot-ta-wot-ta-wot...

... And thus is the reason why I believe the current season of Star Trek: Disovery will be its last."