The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by The Old Mixer, Jan 11, 2016.

  1. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

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    I'm torn between opposition to censorship and thinking how cool it is that Ed bossed Mick around. :rommie:

    Yikes. Thank goodness for Rhogam. Also, an OB-GYN named Bourne? Come on. :rommie:

    Trigger warning!

    This is pretty good.

    And, of course, the Stones at the top of their game.

    Oh, yeah, I love that. :rolleyes:

    No good deed goes unpunished.

    It slipped by me, too, but I need new glasses. :rommie:

    "Conventional law enforcement just gets in the way."

    The scene itself doesn't seem to be on YouTube either, although "Dragnet refrigerator scene" comes up as an autofill suggestion. Weird.

    I found it. Any jokes I make would give it away. :rommie:
     
  2. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    50 Years Ago This Week

    January 16
    • Super Bowl VI: the Dallas Cowboys win their first National Football League championship, defeating the Miami Dolphins 24–3 in New Orleans.
    • Died: Ross Bagdasarian, Sr., 52, aka David Seville of Alvin and the Chipmunks.

    January 17 – "Huge Monday" took place on the North Shore of Oahu; 20 foot waves made it "the greatest single day in surfing history".

    January 18 – Members of the Mukti Bahini lay down their arms to the government of the newly independent Bangladesh, 33 days after winning the war against the occupying Pakistan Army.

    January 19 – The "Republic of Minerva" was proclaimed by Michael Oliver of the Phoenix Foundation and a group of entrepreneurs who had built an island by towing sand onto the underwater Minerva Reefs, located in the South Pacific Ocean, 260 miles west of Tonga. The micronation, which printed its own currency and coinage, would come to an end when Tonga annexed the reefs on June 21.

    January 20
    • In Geneva, the member nations of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) agreed to raise their price for crude oil by 8.49 percent, to $2.49 per barrel, the first of many sharp increases that would follow.
    • Karen Wise became the first woman to play NCAA college basketball (limited at that time to men), when she took the court for Windham College against Castleton State College. Playing for two minutes, she gathered one rebound but did not score in her team's 84–38 loss.
    • President Zulfikar Ali Bhutto announces that Pakistan will immediately begin a nuclear weapons program.
    • Fears are growing about the economy of the United Kingdom, where unemployment is now exceeding 1 million for the first time since World War II.

    January 21
    • A New Delhi bootlegger sells wood alcohol to a wedding party; 100 die.
    • Tripura, part of the former independent Twipra Kingdom, becomes a full state of India.


    Selections from Billboard's Hot 100 for the week:

    Leaving the chart:
    • "Behind Blue Eyes," The Who (11 weeks)
    • "(I Know) I'm Losing You," Rod Stewart w/ Faces (9 weeks)
    • "Respect Yourself," The Staple Singers (14 weeks)
    • "Truckin'," The Grateful Dead (8 weeks)

    New on the chart:

    "Slippin' into Darkness," War

    (#16 US; #12 R&B)

    "Down by the Lazy River," The Osmonds

    (#4 US; #40 UK)

    "I Gotcha," Joe Tex

    (#2 US; #1 R&B)


    And new on the boob tube:
    • Hawaii Five-O, "The Ninety-Second War (Part 2)"
    • Adam-12, "The Tip"
    • The Brady Bunch, "Jan's Aunt Jenny"
    • The Partridge Family, "Waiting for Bolero"
    • The Odd Couple, "You Saved My Life"
    • Love, American Style, "Love and the Advice Column / Love and the Bathtub / Love and the Fullback / Love and the Guru / Love and the Physical"
    • All in the Family, "Mike's Mysterious Son"
    • The Mary Tyler Moore Show, "Baby Sit-Com"
    • Emergency!, "Mascot"
    • Mission: Impossible, "Committed"

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    Timeline entries are quoted from the Wiki pages for the month or year.

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    The Doors will be socking it to Ed later in the year.

    Hurm.

    Certainly distinctive.

    Double-sided goodness, and their last hurrah of this phase before their full-on psychedelic misadventure.

    Male Karen alert!

    As do I.

    ...

    I can add for the others that it was an impromptu save on my Mom's part, as Dad wanted to name me Parrish after an uncle's surname.
     
  3. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

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    Dude!

    And then yesterday it washed away after the eruption. Just kidding, probably. Actually, it reminds me of the Principality of Sealand. Truth is stranger than fiction sometimes. :rommie:

    Not bad. It's another one I haven't heard in ages.

    I would not have guessed this was the Osmonds. :rommie:

    I haven't heard this in a long time either. Fun.

    I wonder how Mick felt about that. :rommie:

    I wonder if The Man With No Name orders Spaghetti Westerns for breakfast.

    I'm telling!

    Sounds kind of like a secret agent name.
     
  4. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    50th Anniversary Viewing (Part 1)

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    Hawaii Five-O
    "The Ninety-Second War (Part 1)"
    Originally aired January 11, 1972
    McGarrett leaves the office alone at midnight to head for wherever he keeps his pod, but we don't get to see it. Instead, we cut to police responding to an accident involving an overturned car. The dead occupant, surrounded by money, is a criminal named Benny Jalore; the survivor is Steve McGarrett. Danno rushes to the scene and talks to Steve through the broken windshield, giving us his opening credits shot for future seasons. McGarrett says that he has no feeling and can't move. The car is overturned rather roughly and the hood is cut open with power tools and peeled off with a tow truck. As the rescue workers lift McGarrett out, it's revealed that his hand is clutching a briefcase full of money. Steve's rushed the hospital and tended to by Doc Bergman (Al Eben), whose run as a recurring character began this season, and Dr. Shimel (Jack McCoy), who informs Steve that he shows signs of a spinal cord injury. Meanwhile, Che examines the money found at the scene. Inside the case, along with $20,000, they find a book full of coded writing in what looks like Steve's hand. Questioned by Danno at the hospital, Steve recalls trying to start his car and hearing a hissing sound. Danno puts out an APB on his car. Dr. Shmiel comes in to inform Steve that there's no break in his spinal cord, and Steve is moved to the verge of tears to find that he can move his hands.

    McGarrett's car is found in Benny Jalore's driveway, and Steve already suspects a frame. Quickly back on his feet, Steve is informed by Che and Lt. Cmdr. Smallitt (Bob Witthans) that the book is identified as Steve's, and handwriting matches, the writing is in an old, out-of-use code that Steve is familiar with, and it's a record of $2 million worth of deposits in a Swiss bank account. As the deposits are looked into, McGarrett figures that it's an ingenious frame that's been three years in the making. There's even photographic and anecdotal evidence that Steve was in Switzerland on the date of one of the deposits in 1968, and he remembers having indeed been there for a conference. As Steve narrows down his suspects for the mastermind behind the frame to one man, we see Wo Fat arriving at his lair, emerging from a miniature yellow submarine with white trim and red hatches.

    Steve figures that this is meant as a distraction to get him out of the way for something big. Looking to trip Wo Fat up, Steve has the Governor suspend him for the investigation, and gets on the first leg of a flight to Switzerland, implicitly boasting to the press about the money he's got there. But while Wo Fat's men report McGarrett's movements, it appears that this is all according to plan. Steve appears at a Swiss bank to withdraw his money, though he remains conspicuously silent throughout the transaction. Out in the lobby, he comes face-to-face with...Steve McGarrett, who engages in the requisite split-screen gawking before pulling his pistol.

    Withdrawal McGarrett makes a run for it and is shot by a guard. In critical condition, the impostor mutters something cryptic that sound like the episode title, indicates that he was working for Wo Fat, and shares the name of a woman whose at a hotel he has keys to. The woman, Claudine (Dana Wynter), is brought in to see the imposter, whom she refers to as Luther, and she describes how Wo Fat had him gradually surgically altered to be identical to McGarrett. She indicates that Wo Fat's ultimate goal was to remove the barrier of Steve McGarrett from some plan for ninety seconds. Luther calls Claudine over and expresses his love for her with his last breath, though she indicates afterward that he was being insincere. The real McGarrett moves on into next week's episode.

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    Adam-12
    "The Princess and the Pig"
    Originally aired January 12, 1972
    As the officers arrive at the club, manager David Bolanz (Kaz Garas) is trying to talk Kathy Royal down, but she accuses him of being one of the vultures that she's warning the audience about. She runs outside to sit in an alley and talk to herself; Reed follows and she begs for his help. As she's loaded in the ambulance, she insists that Reed accompany her for protection, believing that "they" want to kill her for what she knows. The ambulance attendant thinks this is a good idea given her state. On the ride, she tells Reed that "they" hooked her and are giving her drugs. Reed sees an opportunity to find out who's supplying a couple of new drugs that have been hitting the streets. Lt. Moore (James McEachin; this is confusing because Adam-12 already had a recurring Lt. Moore, played by Art Gilmore, though he seems to be mostly gone at this point) comes up with Reed's cover for the assignment, which Mac and Captain Grant (Art Balinger) approve. Malloy remains on regular duty because Mac can't spare a patrol car officer of his experience, but Adam-12 is assigned to be Reed's backup...now temporarily staffed with a green new academy graduate, Larry Carter (Mike Warren, though I didn't catch the character's name being dropped).

    Reed assumes his cover with Kathy's cooperation; she drops the episode title as a description for the two of them, and hooks him up with Bolanz to offer his fake goods. Bolanz is suspicious, testing Reed's story about being an AWOL serviceman. Reed is tailed by a van-driving detective named Palmer (Squire Fridell). Bolanz smuggles Reed out in a linen supply van to negotiate with the boss, Michael Hayes (Bobby Troup, getting in one last guest role before premiering in his new co-starring role on Emergency!). Malloy hears on the radio that another tailing detective, Steel (Don Ross), has found Kathy tied up after she was persuaded to blow Reed's cover. Reed returns to the club and Kathy warns him; they run out as a couple of armed goons enter and pursue; but out in the parking lot Malloy, who was hovering nearby, and Moore swoop in to the rescue, nabbing Bolanz. Reed, who was winged along the way, accompanies Kathy in the ambulance again.

    I thought they had an interesting sub-angle here in giving Malloy a younger, greener, more diverse partner, but they didn't do anything with it.

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    The Brady Bunch
    "Dough Re Mi"
    Originally aired January 14, 1972
    Greg won't let the other guys into their room because he's working on something important. We see him writing on a music sheet, which he excitedly goes out with, but comes home disappointed. He reveals that he's been working on a "surefire hit song" titled "We Can Make the World a Whole Lot Brighter"...but the local recording studio owner, Mr. Dimsdale, wants $150 for use of his studio. Knowing Dimsdale's son, Peter goes to see him and gets a tip about how family groups are selling.

    Peter: And we'd make three times as much as the Carpenters, there are only two of them!​

    Greg gets the idea to group with the other kids as the Brady Six, but has to the convince the girls, and needs everyone to chip in for the studio fee. He makes up the balance by striking a deal with Mike to advance it out of their allowances. The kids then rehearse the ecologically conscious number in the family room. The album version sounds more produced up than what was played in the episode:


    Greg proceeds to pay Dimsdale (John Wheeler), partly with a large amount of change. At the next rehearsal, Peter starts croaking. The booking date is set for that Friday, so they have to proceed. Pete tries using a vaporizer and eating honey. The adults (including Alice in curlers with a baseball bat) hear what sounds like a coyote at night, but it's Peter out in the car trying to scream his voice back to normal. The parents try to do their wise, encouraging thing, but the kids vote whether to keep or dump Peter, then discuss the issue with Carol, who stresses that people are more important than money and fame. The kids decide to call off the recording, but Peter volunteers to bow out. Then Greg gets the idea to compose a new song, "Time to Change," tailored to feature Peter's quavering voice in the refrain, which is successfully recorded. The album version doesn't feature Peter's humorous croaking:


    Nevertheless, in the coda Greg's helping Pete to preserve his current hybrid voice for the next recording session, believing it to be the group's special gimmick.

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    The Partridge Family
    "Fellini, Bergman, and Partridge"
    Originally aired January 14, 1972
    Keith comes home from an avante garde film and decides to try his own hand with an old 8mm home camera...but has to go to Danny for money for film and developing, in exchange for a piece of the action. Keith starts shooting the other kids around the house (including Tracy in the bath again). They also lure Kincaid to the house dressed as a fairy by telling him they're having a costume party. Keith screens his rough cut for the family and Reuben, which includes credits added by Danny--all for himself. Everyone gets laughs out of it, so Danny gets the idea of making a profit by charging to show it in the garage.

    When nobody shows, Keith goes to date at Muldoon's Point, which gives Danny the idea to screen it there, without telling Keith. The audience proves to be hostile, which Danny blames on the film. Then Keith gets a call from a local theater owner, Sam Greasley (Tony Ballen), who's interested in showing the film because it features the Partridge Family. The rest of the family aren't pleased when they learn of it. They make Keith cut out the parts that embarrass them, which is most of the film. To satisfy Danny's obligation, they end up performing "Hello, Hello" live at the theater with what's left of the film projected in the background.


    In the coda, Keith and Danny have invested their money from the showing in selling posters of Reuben in his fairy costume at head shops and bookstores.

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    The Odd Couple
    "Speak for Yourself"
    Originally aired January 14, 1972
    This premise doesn't line up at all with last season's "The Jury Story," which depicted Felix and Oscar meeting just seven years prior. Not only are Felix's kids older than that, but this flashback is said to take place in the early '50s, shortly after Felix and Oscar met.

    Following a ball game in which Murray served as umpire, the subject of Oscar rather than Felix having proposed to Gloria comes up. (Supposedly present Felix has gotten in hot water with Gloria because she caught him picking through her garbage...another thing I can't picture Felix doing.) The flashback commences with Oscar in the same apartment, which not only ignores the Season 1 apartment, but makes me wonder how Oscar's marriage fits in. Felix has just broken up with a previous girlfriend and Oscar is setting him up on a blind date. It's his first visit to Oscar's place, so Felix makes himself comfortable by tidying the place up. When Gloria arrives at the door, Felix is clearly taken with her. Gloria makes an observation about Felix's neatness, and he returns the compliment. But it turns out that Gloria is Oscar's date...Felix's is the next arrival, the bubbleheaded Mitzi (Ronda Copland). Felix chafes at her unbecoming behavior at an Italian restaurant. When the girls go to powder their noses, Felix tells Oscar that he wants to be with Gloria. Oscar's pleased with this arrangement, as he thought Felix was getting the catch. Oscar very abruptly announces the switch to the ladies, Mitzi doesn't bat an eyelash about it, and once they have the table to themselves, Felix tells Gloria that he loves her.

    After a period of dating, Felix calls Oscar over to his place, which I believe is also Gloria's current apartment, but at this point Felix has the couch covered in plastic. Felix tells Oscar of his intention to propose. There's an abrupt cut to the restaurant that seems to be a syndication edit (this one was recorded from Decades), by which point Felix has lost his voice without explanation and is using impromptu sign language to enlist Oscar to help him propose before Gloria goes to Korea to entertain the troops. Gloria is at Felix's because of circumstances that we didn't witness, and under Felix's silent direction, Oscar gets down on one knee, then breaks with Felix's script and proposes on Felix's behalf in his own way, which initially gets Oscar a hug as she accepts. Murray is moved to tears by the story.

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    Pretty decent.

    I wouldn't have guessed that these guys were in the same continuity as the Who and Led Zep.

    I'm not overly familiar with it, but it's funky goodness.

    They're the two go-to examples of Sullivan censorship...the Stones infamously complied, and Doors famously defied. The glass-half-full side of the Stones' end would be that they were edgy enough to put the song out as an A-side in the first place.

    His breakfast gets the notion that you're laughin' at it...

    Speak to my manager.
     
  5. Nerys Myk

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    It was affordable for my wife and I in the mid 90s. And I'm sure Arch was making more money in his Union job than I was with my retail one.
     
  6. RJDiogenes

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    Someday, by hook or by crook....

    He's lucky he didn't end up in the Village.

    Wow. Pretty intense for Hawaii Five-O, especially McGarrett.

    "Six months of physical therapy? That can wait!"

    And a bumper sticker that says, "My Other Submarine Is The Seaview."

    I like that nobody thinks for an instant that this is anything else but a frame up.

    "That hair won't fool anyone!"

    He threw her under the bus pretty easily.

    Ninety seconds? He was lucky not to be killed or crippled. Or did that part of the plan go awry?

    The Evil Twin doesn't even survive to part 2-- that's disappointing. No scene of them in a life-or-death struggle with Danno saying, "I... I don't know which one to shoot!"

    Do patrolmen really do undercover work? I thought that was detective work.

    She must have been easy to persuade. She's lucky she wasn't beaten to a pulp or killed. And why is she back at the club instead of in custody?

    Not a great episode, but an interesting deviation from format.

    Yeah, Reed's not a rookie anymore, but it would be hard to fit in a new character.

    Have we seen any prior indication that the Bradys are musically inclined? This seems to have come out of nowhere and quickly returned. :rommie:

    Mom and dad are feeling a little left out at this point.

    It's not saying "sure-fire hit" to me.

    Why can't he just bang on the tambourine or something?

    Wow, that's two! :rommie:

    Did this actually go anywhere? I don't remember the Bradys being a group.

    Both the Bradys and the Partridges seem to be going outside their wheelhouse this week. :rommie:

    :rommie:

    But the original print still survives, waiting.....

    Reuben must be constantly asking himself if it's all worth it. :rommie:

    This show seems to have a lot of continuity glitches.

    Which makes them older than I would have expected-- and it's odd that they haven't aged in twenty years. :rommie:

    I'm thinking Oscar and Felix are false identities, and they just can't keep their backstory straight.

    I remember that scene. :rommie:

    He's a big softie. :rommie:

    That's true. I wonder if they had any banning issues.

    No way, man, not me. The poncho, though....

    I guess, but it seems like an odd thing for them to spend that hard-earned money on. Disney World doesn't seem like an Archie and Edith kind of activity.
     
  7. The Old Mixer

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    Love, American Style
    "Love and the Big Surprise / Love and the Security Building / Love and the Ski Lodge / Love and the Happy Unhappy Couple / Love and the Topless Policy"
    Originally aired January 14, 1972

    In "Love and the Big Surprise," Dick (Soupy Sales) gives his wife Nan (Stefanie Powers) a dark wig with bangs as a birthday gift. Her brother Monty (Bob Hastings) gets her suspicious about Dick's motives in buying it, and Dick digs himself deeper by saying it makes her look younger and more glamorous, so she refuses to go out for her birthday dinner. Feeling bad about it the next day, Nan tells her girlfriend Wanda (Jill Jaress) how she plans to get romantic with Dick that night; but not having slept the night before, Dick takes some pills to help him sleep first. As she turns on the wiles, he fights drowsiness, and ultimately conks out while she's trying to tango with him.

    "Love and the Security Building"--I guess these are a thing at this point. It opens with Fred (Pat Paulsen) taking calls from women for his roommate Bill (Dick Gautier), making excuses why Bill can't make dates with them, because he has a blind date with a woman named Joan. When a woman Bill assumes is her (Sheila James) calls up from the lobby, he doesn't like what he sees on the monitor, so he passes her off to Fred. But when Joan comes up, it turns out that she's a knockout (Anabel Garth), and the other woman is her friend Agnes. She starts to go for Fred, while he acts nervous, and Bill hides out in the kitchen, not realizing what he's missing. When Fred tells Bill about how gorgeous she is, Bill goes out, but only Agnes is there while Joan is taking a call. When Joan returns, she overhears Bill describing what happened on the phone via an extension. Joan slips into something more comfortable in the brassy bedroom, Fred convinces him to come out and say goodnight to her before he leaves for a movie, and Bill discovers the truth too late.

    "Love and the Ski Lodge" has a ski instructor named Danny (Ron Harper) training his new wife Laura (Beth Brickell) by having her practice on an angled mattress inside the lodge. Head ski instructor Helmut (Victor Rogers) pays a call to make Danny participate in a race that's been moved up a week--that's what you get for having your honeymoon where you work. Danny comes back on crutches and in leg casts, and Laura assumes that the honeymoon is over...but he rips the casts off to reveal that the doctor helped him get back off duty.

    "Love and the Happy Unhappy Couple" opens with Frank and Abby Stevens (Louis Nye and Jo Anne Worley), who've been happily married for six years, being playful when their neighbor Henry (Robert Q. Lewis), a psychiatrist, drops by and observes that they're using sex as a crutch, and tries to get them to express their pent-up hostility. He tells them to keep lists of the things that bother them about each other for a week, and they agree to do it to prove him wrong. The couple quickly start getting paranoid of what they're writing about each other, which makes them edgier toward one another, and self-conscious of the things each is doing when the other writes something down. By Sunday morning when it's time to read their lists, they're having no problem expressing their mutual hostility, and start destroying each other's possessions. Henry drops by again and is happy to see them having a healthy relationship. When it goes too far and they start to make up, Henry tries to tell them to keep letting it all out, so they direct their hostility toward him.

    In "Love and the Topless Policy," club owner Howard (Dave Madden) brings in Ira (Dwayne Hickman) to announce the new policy, and Ira has to inform the current waitresses. Gladys (Elaine Shore) and Jenny (Carol Worthington) initially announce that they quit, saving him from having to fire them for not being the right type...but they talk it over and decide that they're willing to take it off to help the place. And Libby (Susan Howard), whom Ira was hoping to settle down with once she left the place, goes along with them. Howard proceeds to interview other, more suitable women (Leslie McRay and Marilyn Nix), but a women's lib activist named Bertha (Marcia Wallace) comes to picket the place. This raises all five ladies' ire, and they decide to picket the picket topless. The men end up coming up with an alternative that won't get everyone arrested and the place shut down...that they'll be the ones serving customers topless, in Chippendale-style collars.

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    All in the Family
    "Archie and the FBI"
    Originally aired January 15, 1972
    Mike's studying Spanish with Gloria when Archie answers the door to find a young man whom he's initially dismissive of, only to learn that Mr. Bradford (Jon Korkes) is an investigator for the FBI. This changes Archie's whole attitude, and he lets Bradford sit in his chair as the investigator asks questions about co-worker and neighbor Larry Grundy. Archie tries to downplay his long friendship with Grundy, and Mike objects to the questions, citing Archie's constitutional rights. Edith lets Grundy (Graham Jarvis) in through the back door and Archie goes to see him in the kitchen. Grundy's desperate because he's heard from other neighbors that a G-man's been asking questions about him, and Archie feels that it's best if he's not seen with Grundy, encouraging him to lay low. After Grundy and Bradford each leave (and Edith drops a reference to Efram Zimablist), Archie gets a call from Mr. McNab that a federal investigator is at his place...asking questions about Archie.

    Archie finds himself in the same position as Grundy--paranoid of what his now-suspicious neighbors may implicate him in and of being subject to surveillance. Mike gets Archie going on this and Archie loudly declares his support for J. Edgar Hoover for the benefit of any bugs. Lionel comes by after the Jeffersons are questioned, and Archie isn't happy that they told the investigator that Archie supports civil rights. Grundy comes by through the back again, now conspicuously wearing his American Legion uniform to demonstrate his loyalty. Archie and Larry start exchanging accusations, including that Archie is housing a pinko subversive, and they almost come to blows. Archie then gets a call from his shop steward, and learns that the FBI has been asking questions on behalf of the Air Force concerning a defense contract that the plant handled...and the investigation has been called off after their union intervened. Nevertheless, the damage has been done to Archie and Larry's relationship, as they can't see each other the same way anymore, and have found that they're living on Maple Street.

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    The Mary Tyler Moore Show
    "The Slaughter Affair"
    Originally aired January 15, 1972
    Lou is about to fire Ted for telling viewers to drive carelessly, but Ted shows him the copy, and it turns out to have been Murray's error. Lou takes Murray in his office and they start getting each other yawning. Murray learns that Mary's noticed something's been bothering him lately and has usually been checking his copy. Murray tells her about his approaching tenth wedding anniversary and that he's been teaching news writing at night school to buy Marie a compact car. Back at home, Mary learns from Rhoda that Murray has actually been driving a cab. Murray comes in late the next day and tells Mary that he was robbed right after Rhoda was in his cab; and that because he'd been telling Marie that he was teaching night school, she doesn't believe him and thinks he's been having an affair with Mary.

    Mary tells Lou what's been going on, and Lou declares that Murray has to stop moonlighting or he's fired. Mary drops by the Slaughter home to see Marie. Marie's convinced that her husband's having an affair with somebody, and Mary tells her what he's been doing and why. Then Murray comes home and Marie can't keep Murray's surprise to herself; and Murray, having had to quit his second job before he had enough money, reveals that he's bought her a used car that she once had her eye on instead.

    In the coda, Lou's happy that he can go back to chewing Ted out for the on-air flubs.

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    Emergency!
    "The Wedsworth-Townsend Act"
    Originally aired January 15, 1972
    Pilot movie
    This is where I'd have a difficult decision to make if I were playing by strict rules of period viewing verisimilitude, as at this point in the season, groundbreaking sitcoms All in the Family and Mary Tyler Moore were running back-to-back against this new entry in the Mark VII franchise, which I also have more of a childhood attachment to. I saw the pilot movie in its original format years back on MeTV (I assume). The version I'm watching now is a syndication edit that chops the movie into two episodes and includes a framing intro of later DeSoto and Gage (most noticeable is Gage's longer hair) reminiscing about how they first met.

    The vintage footage commences with firefighters responding to a call from Station 8, which, later Gage fondly remembers, had a pole. Milner and McCord get "Starring" credits after the added-in series opening credits from a later season. Gage is with that station's Engine 10. Back at the station, Battalion 14's Chief Conrad (Art Balinger) tries to recruit Gage for the paramedic program, but he's not interested in being an "ambulance attendant". Engine 10 then responds to a call about a possible high-voltage electrocution. Gage goes up in the bucket with another rescue man to bring down a seemingly unconscious victim from the top of an electrical pole and try to keep him alive as he's rushed to Rampart, where Brackett, assisted by Dr. Tom Gray (Ron Pinkard) and Nurse McCall, futilely attempt to revive him. In the aftermath, Dixie argues for the paramedic program, but Brackett doesn't approve of amateurs treating patients, and underscores this by chewing out Gage for having assumed the patient was alive when he was brought in.

    This experience changes Gage's attitude: "'Rescue,' hell...all we rescued was a corpse." Gage sees DeSoto about signing up for the paramedic program, and while Johnny's still skeptical, DeSoto sells him with a gently toned Fridayesque lecture about how they can make a difference on the scene. Rampart handles the training of Gage's class, against Brackett's objections, which includes introducing them and the audience to the trusty defibrillator. Kell and Dixie are seeing each other on the side, and he argues about the bad publicity that will come the first time one of the trainees accidentally kills a patient; nevertheless, he's committed to giving them the best training that he can. In a later exchange on the subject, Dixie compares paramedics to medical corpsmen in Vietnam.

    State assemblyman Michael Wolski (Jack Kruschen) attends the class's graduation, and tries to recruit Brackett as an expert to argue in favor of the legislation that will allow the paramedics to operate. DeSoto takes Gage to the brand-new Station 51 and introduces him and the audience to their iconic series ride and its equipment. Squad 51 promptly gets a call for a traffic accident and, because they're not permitted to administer aid yet, they pick up Dixie at the hospital first. She does what will be their gig, calling in the vitals to Early, who instructs her on what to do. DeSoto and Gage endure the indignity of being recruited by an officer to help direct traffic, because they're "not doing anything".

    DeSoto and Gage host the assemblyman at the station, and he reveals that an obstacle in the way of the legislation is Brackett's refusal to support it. Back at Rampart, a couple of familiar police officers pop up in relation to a couple of gunshot victims having been brought in, and Malloy engages in some flirtatious small talk with Dixie. Then a young woman who was painting the name on a boat is brought in with a severed right arm. DeSoto and Gage rush to the boatyard to find and retrieve the arm (not shown), and though Early isn't optimistic about the outcome, Brackett, Early, and some other specialists operate to reattach it. This is where the episodes split and we get Those Three Words.

    The second part opens with another later-filmed framing scene. Back in Flashbackland, the arm has been successfully reattached, and despite his reservations, Early has potentially restored eventual full use. Dixie invites Brackett to a birthday party at her place for Johnny Gage. At the party, Bobby Troup gets his kicks on the piano, and Brackett and the audience are introduced to Roy DeSoto's wife, Joanne (Kathryn Kelly Wiget). Early is said to have a private practice and to be volunteering his time at Rampart. Wolski announces that he just heard from Sacramento that open hearings will be held for the paramedic bill. There's some tension as everyone takes the opportunity to pressure Brackett about it, with Gage being notably antagonistic toward the doctor.

    DeSoto and Gage are then back on duty with Dixie in the middle, responding to a car that's overturned on the side of a cliff. The trio climb in through the windows to pull a passenger out, but Dixie is conked out by the rocking car while it's catching fire, and the prospective paramedics push the vehicle over, resulting in the requisite rolling burst into flames. DeSoto and Gage have no choice but to do Dixie's job, calling in to Brackett. This is where DeSoto describes Dixie as "approximately 30"...which is flattering Julie London by approximately 15 years. Against Brackett's orders, the duo treat the victims as qualified help is too far away. Later back at Rampart, Brackett describes to the hospitalized Dixie the good that the proto-paramedics did, while establishing the official story that she was the one who treated the other victims.

    Alone with DeSoto and Gage, Brackett is more frank, chewing them out for working unauthorized based on everything that could have gone wrong...but punctuates the moment with a parting compliment for how they did. Early then enters and gives Brackett a taste of his own medicine (pardon the expression), lecturing him about how much good the paramedics did. Brackett subsequently appears before the hearing committee, which is chaired by Herb Vigran. In a stirring, Fridayesque speech, the doctor makes clear his reservations about paramedics, while ultimately offering his support on the basis that they're necessary to save lives.

    Proto-paramedic work continues with Nurse Wilma Jacobs (trusty ol' Virginia Gregg) implicitly having been doing the heavy lifting offscreen. On a dark and stormy night, while the bill is in phase one of being voted on, Squad 51 is called to a tunnel cave-in/explosion. On the scene, Gage insists to DeSoto that they not overstep their legal bounds despite the clear need for more medical hands, asserting that he was wrong before and afraid that acting without authorization again could blow the whole program. While the paramedics do rescue work, helping to free trapped victims, the tunnel continues to deteriorate in the deluge. Patients have already been brought to Rampart, where Early and Gray get to work on their multiple fractures.

    DeSoto and Gage find themselves tending to a victim having a heart attack who wouldn't survive a trip to the hospital, even as ambulances aren't arriving fast enough. DeSoto calls it in to Brackett, which includes sending vital sign readings. With the victim hovering on the brink of death, Brackett takes the initiative of ordering the paramedics to defib despite the bill not having passed yet. The paramedics are now hesitant, but comply at the doctor's insistence. They're successful in restoring breathing, and Brackett addresses the paramedics as "doctors"...a compliment that Gage take graciously.

    At daybreak, as the tunnel area is being evacuated, DeSoto finds a paper reporting that the bill passed and was signed into law late the night before. The two-parter concludes with a closing bookend in which Later Gage drops the figure that county paramedics are handling 8,000 calls a month, before the duo leave for one.

    This would easily be the meatiest origin episode of a Mark VII show, and it had more to do, establishing five lead characters for what would be Mark VII's most ambitious series--essentially two half-hour shows, a paramadeic/fire/rescue series and a hospital series, combined as a single hour-long show.

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    Mission: Impossible
    "Image"
    Originally aired January 15, 1972
    Emil Gadsen (George Voskovec), accompanied by his right-hand son Tony Gadsen (Dan Travanty, a.k.a. Daniel J. Travanti), visits Thor Coffin (Warren Stevens), who's attended to by his chief henchman Hauser (Del Monroe). Gadsen informs Coffin of how he plans to leave the country. Gadsen's obligatory list is considered very valuable, and even while he tries to convince Thor to sell his precious stamp collection as a means of moving cash, Gadsen refuses to part with the list.

    Jim goes to Coffin bearing a stamp of interest, while Willy digs into the wine cellar, gets to work on the alarm box, sneaks into a linen closet upstairs, causes an alarm to sound after Jim signals, and breaks into Coffin's safe. Elsewhere, Barney, sporting shades, a goatee, and a Caribbean accent, gives Gadsen a tarot reading and puts notions in his head, which include that he has a brother who was severed from him who's a source of danger. Barney subjects Gadsen to a gas from a cigarette holder that serves as a hypnosis-like conditioning agent. Guest agent Dave Scott (Paul Marin) dons a Casey-crafted Gadsen mask.

    Willy is caught at gunpoint by Coffin goon Belkin (Don Gazzaniga) trying to leave through the door with Coffin's stamp album, but gets under the guy's guard and knocks him out. Jim concludes his stamp wheeling and dealing and picks up Willy outside. Gadsen gets a call about a man who could be his twin dining with Casey. The Gadsens go to restaurant to talk with the double, who's supposed to be a professor with Casey posing as his daughter, and it appears that Gadsen is feeling pains (triggered by Barney flashing the Death card) from his twin's heart condition. With his father showing signs of potentially fatal illness, Tony becomes more interested in knowing where the list is. The Professor is then fake abducted by Jim and agent Tom Hawkins (George McCallister Jr.). Gadsen also feels the Professor's pain from his having been fake struck on the head.

    Gadsen is examined by IMF doctor Berk (David Frank), who helps sell Barney's ruse about the "Corsican Syndrome" connection between the twins, which includes identifying a scar on Gadsen as having been from the separation. Gadsen assumes the kidnappers were after him, and Barney triggers another attack that motivates him to have his twin freed from the cellar that Barney has seen him being held in. Willy smuggles the Professor and Hawkins into Coffin's cellar through the secret entry he constructed. Tony forces Belkin to take him down to Coffin's cellar, where Willy is fake interrogating the Professor about the list under the fake impression that he's Gadsen, with Gadsen experiencing similar pains. Jim takes the stolen stamp book to another shady collector, Nate Ullstead (Walter Burke), who calls Gadsen about having an opportunity to buy the collection.

    Gadsen goes to Jim to force him to reveal how he got into Coffin's house. Jim shows the Gadsens the tunnel into the cellar. When they get to the Professor, he's fake dead, and Jim uses the Death card to trigger another attack in Gadsen. Willy and Hawkins start shooting at the Gadsens and Jim, and Tony persuades his father under duress to tell him where the list is. Gadsen is abandoned and taken out by Willy and Hawkins, with Willy blowing the tunnel behind them. Conventional law enforcement waits at the other end to take the Gadsens into custody, Jim hands over the list, and Scott makes a show of unmasking in front of Gadsen.

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    Or did he...? :shifty:

    There was a brief mention in the scene with the reporters that Steve had claimed that the gas was a nerve agent that caused his very temporary paralysis.

    It was more of a next of kin thing. She didn't get booked, and provided vital info.

    My impression is that the 90-second part is still to come; what happened in this episode was all set-up.

    Shoot for the hair--the real Steve's will protect him!

    Probably not. McCord and/or Webb were bucking to have Reed do detective work.

    Good question.

    I recall Greg having performed a song in an earlier episode, and posting a clip of it. I don't recall from childhood viewing if the Brady Six ever returned, but they did put out the album that I posted the tracks from in 1972.

    I like it better than the Osmonds. It's more pleasant to the ear, and has a good times-signy vibe.

    Greg might have been strumming a guitar, but otherwise they were a vocal combo. At least they're not pretending to have all the kids playing instruments.

    Randall would have been in his early 30s in the early '50s, and Klugman pushing 30. I think we were just supposed to squint past the actual ages of the actors in the flashbacks. Now Janis Hansen, she would have been 10-ish!

    In the States they played "Ruby Tuesday" on the radio instead, and it became the #1. I guess you could say that Mick was rolling his eyes to the bank.
     
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    I think Johnny is on (rescue) Squad 10 at a station with Engine 10 and Truck 10. IIRC Squad 10 is a Dodge 1-ton a couple of model years older than Squad 51, and is parked in a bay with the battalion chief's car behind it.

    I forgot they used a different name for Dr Morton in the pilot.

    I have mentioned this a couple of times over the years: It was established earlier in the movie that Dix had served in the Korean War, so if the age given was correct she had been a pre-teen army nurse.
     
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    I recognized the actor, but didn't know the character by name. FWIW, I don't think they dropped his pilot name.

    I didn't catch the Korea reference.
     
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    Now I do remember growing up watching this show. Not the first couple of seasons, but definitely the later ones; especially the made for tv movie set in Seattle because it featured the familiar landmarks.

    Were you aware that Seattle is credited with creating the Emergency Response System? This comes from the Harborview Medical Center Webpage

    "[SIZE=5]History of Seattle Medic One and development of Emergency Medical Services (EMS)[/SIZE]
    In the late 1960s Harborview physicians recognized the need for more rapid intervention for patients suffering from cardiac events. Dr Leonard Cobb, a cardiologist, approached Seattle Fire Chief Gordon F Vickery about a pilot program to improve the medical training for Seattle firefighters and organize an approach to medical emergencies. In 1969 the first class of 15 Seattle department firefighters began a training program focused on the care of patients with cardiac events. This program included 200 hours of classroom instruction and 700 hours of clinical training in the Harborview Medical Center ORs and emergency department. This training included 12 lead electrocardiagram interpretation, intravenous access, endotracheal intubation, defibrillator use, and pharmacologic therapy. Service to the public began in March of 1970 with a large mobile home known as ‘Moby Pig’, which was jointly staffed by physicians and the newly trained paramedics.2 This program was quickly recognized for its success in saving lives after acute coronary events, and training was expanded to cover all acute medical emergencies and traumatic events. In 1972, Washington State amended the Medical Practice Act to establish the profession of EMS and eliminate the need for direct on-scene physician supervision. This legislation defined minimum standards for basic, intermediate, and advanced life support training, and led to the formal establishment of the EMS Standards Committee of the Washington State Medical Association (WSMA). An EMS office was also established at the Department of Health (DOH).

    In 1975 the Medic One program expanded to include training of paramedics from all agencies in King County with recognized certification as Mobile Intensive Care Paramedics by the Washington State DOH. Dr Michael Copass, Medical Director of Harborview emergency services, served as the medical program director and director of Medic One paramedic training for over 30 years. Dr Copass is known for his exacting standards for high-quality patient care and professionalism. This training program is now one of the most comprehensive programs in the country and is highly competitive. Eligible candidates must have at least 3 years of firefighter/Emergency Medical Technician (EMT) experience and are sponsored by their EMS agency. Medic One paramedic students receive 2000 hours of instruction, which includes classroom work, clinical training in the Harborview ER and OR, and supervised field training by senior paramedics. The result is over 700 patient contact hours, which is three times the national standards.

    The system was designed as a tiered response with trained dispatcher triage. Immediate response to critical events involves the local fire service with all firefighters trained at the basic EMT level and prepared to intervene with immediate initiation of cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) and defibrillation when indicated. The average response time is 3 to 4 minutes followed by paramedic unit, staffed with two paramedics to provide additional advanced life support care. A public campaign known as Medic Two was also initiated to focus on citizen CPR training, which has resulted in over 50% of King County residents completing this certification. The results of this program have consistently demonstrated the highest cardiac arrest resuscitation rates in the USA. In 1974, Morley Safer reported a story on 60 minutes where he was quoted as saying “If you are going to have a heart attack, have it in Seattle.”

    From the beginning, the Medic One program has been focused on ongoing quality improvement efforts and research to improve prehospital care. Many of the seminal studies developing out of hospital resuscitation for cardiac arrest were conducted by Harborview investigators in collaboration with Medic One. While much of the country was wrestling with the scope of practice of EMS providers, Seattle Medic One research documented a 98.4% success rate with prehospital intubation including the use of neuromuscular blockade.3 Continuing education and skills training are provided in the Harborview ORs. From 2004 to 2017 the Medic One programs throughout King County were actively involved in the Resuscitation Outcomes Consortium, a National Institutes of Health (NIH)-funded clinical trials network to advance prehospital research in cardiac arrest and life-threatening trauma. The Medic One Foundation also issues annual grant awards to local investigators to conduct studies to improve prehospital care. The early success of the Medic One programs and the tight integration with Harborview Medical Center physicians were instrumental in the subsequent development of the statewide trauma system and laid the foundation for Harborview as the primary referral center for major trauma in the region.

    Dr Michael Copass is also credited with establishing Airlift Northwest (ALNW), the first regional aeromedical service in Seattle. Inspired by the death of four children in a house fire in Sitka, Alaska, in 1982, Dr Copass identified the need for a regional aeromedical transport service to support the timely transport of patients from southeast Alaska for advanced care. Airlift Northwest was founded in 1982 and currently has seven helicopter and fixed wing bases in Western Washington, and fixed wing and turboprop services based in Juneau, Alaska, and Yakima, Washington. ALNW transports an average of 1500 patients per year to Harborview Medical Center."

    "If you have to have a heart attack, have it in Seattle". It's a phrase I heard frequently growing up in the Pacific Northwest.

    Somewhat related to this, when I graduated from high school (1989), you were required to have been certified in CPR and have basic first aid skills, such as tying tourniquets, clean and bandaging a wound, and setting splints. It was part of 'Home Economics' and was taught by members of the local fire department.
     
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    That's a busy episode.

    Classic comedian.

    Jennifer Hart and the Girl from UNCLE.

    Well, that was anticlimactic. No pun intended.

    I remember a lot of talk about stuff like that.

    Is Agnes there to chaperone or something?

    So much for single sex being verboten.

    Let that be a lesson! Possibly the wrong one, but a lesson nonetheless.

    This reminds me of that hospital story a few episodes ago.

    "Things seem to be going well, so let's stir up some trouble." :rommie:

    Now there's a satisfying conclusion.

    Long-sufferin' Reuben.

    Dobie Gillis.

    I remember this one. Not a satisfying conclusion. :rommie:

    I think Lionel's messing with Archie's head again.

    Nice. That's exactly what I was thinking as I was reading. Human nature never changes.

    It's the thought and plot complications that count. :rommie:

    But he doesn't fire him. :rommie:

    I actually seldom saw this show when I was a kid, usually when I was at somebody else's house. I'm kind of familiar with it, though, from when it was syndicated on Channel 38 some years later.

    This character conflict among the main cast is pretty unique for a Mark VII show, but I think it's quickly forgotten in the series itself.

    Hmm. He's influential enough to be needed for the legislation to pass, but he can't stop the training at his own hospital. :rommie:

    That seems like a significant delay. I wonder why they're even active before the legislation passes.

    That's interesting. I didn't know they were able to reattach limbs that long ago. Nowadays they do it left and right. Haha.

    That's unusual.

    Maybe he knows that Brackett is involved with her. Why would he even include a profile of someone Brackett knows so well?

    They're winning him over. :rommie:

    :rommie:

    And they got him. :rommie:

    Awww.

    One minute before the defib!

    I was going to say it's one of the meatiest origin episodes ever, especially in an era when most shows of this type began with the format already established.

    The doc in Forbidden Planet and the guy from Andromeda in Star Trek.

    Cool. :mallory:

    Was there any backstory that explained why the twins were separated and kept secret from each other?

    Nyah nyah. :rommie:

    Heh. This conjures up an image of a late 70s Village populated by McGarrett and the agents from the IMF and the agents from UNCLE and other elite organizations. That would be fun. :rommie:

    Okay, at least they addressed it.

    It seemed like she was involved, though.

    Yeah, but I'm wondering if the car crash was planned or a glitch. Fat's man was killed and there was no way to control how badly Steve would be injured, so it seems like it must have been a genuine accident-- but, if so, what was the actual plan?

    Like Steed's bowler. :rommie:

    I forgot to post that I liked the second one better.

    Very interesting. I think that's a great idea.
     
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    50th Anniversary Cinematic Special

    Dirty Harry
    Directed by Don Siegel
    Starring Clint Eastwood, Harry Guardino, Reni Santoni, Andy Robinson, John Larch, and John Vernon
    Released December 23, 1971
    I hadn't seen this film since I was a teenager, I think. Revisiting it today, I find it a bit less enjoyable and not as much in my wheelhouse, though I also don't take its political leanings as seriously as some critics did back in the day. It fits well enough alongside grittier superhero fare of my youth and other action/thriller films.

    To clarify, he finds the note when inspecting the sniper's nest.
    Callahan opens by showing disrespect for the Mayor before they get down to business. The Chief of Police is played by John Larch; Lt. Al Bressler by Harry Guardino.

    He spots the potential 211 in progress by noticing a running car parked outside the bank with a pile of cigarette butts next to one of the doors, but the robbers make their move before backup arrives.
    That much--the signature scene of the film--you can watch for yourself.


    There's a Fandango clip of this part, titled "Why Do They Call You Dirty Harry?," but the scene includes a casually rolled-off listing of racial/ethnic slurs, so I won't post a link.
    This is when we get our first good look at Andy Robinson.
    Five guys start to beat him, but Chico intervenes with the aid of warning shots from his firearm.

    The jumper is played by Bill Couch (uncredited).
    Chico either vomits or suppresses doing so at the sight the boy's face blown off.

    Clip here. The music in this film is more distinctive than that in The French Connection because it's by Lalo Schifrin, who brought us the Mission: Impossible theme.

    Harry's visit to Chico and talk with his wife (Lyn Edgington)--in which we learn that Harry had a wife who was killed by a drunk driver--happens substantially later. In the meantime, Harry picks up a new partner, Inspector Frank De Georgio (John Mitchum), whom Harry calls "Fatso".


    Clip here. Judge Bannerman is played by William Paterson. This sort of business plays well for the audience's benefit, but it seems unlikely that Harry wouldn't already know about things like search and seizure laws. I read that the part was originally written with Harry a decade older (at one point in development Frank Sinatra was cast). Maybe they were planning to do something like Adam-12's "The Dinosaur," with Harry as an older cop who didn't know how to operate post-Miranda.
    Emphasis on the pronoun with an unclear referent is mine...Scorpio pays the man to beat Scorpio, in order to frame Harry for it. The actor playing the man paid to do the beating is uncredited; from the list of uncredited actors on IMDb, he may have been Raymond Johnson.

    He contacts the Mayor, actually, and Callahan is brought in on it because for some reason they want him to deliver the money again...you'd think they wouldn't want Callahan anywhere near Scorpio at this point, or in the loop at all. This is typical cinematic "make the hero look good by making everyone around him idiots and assholes" crap. See also Star Trek III.
    The sequence of Scorpio seeing Callahan waiting on the bridge and Harry jumping onto the bus is a distinctive and memorable one that should have gotten a clip. Eastwood did his own stunt work in it.

    I read that this bit of business was meant to be symbolic of Harry's rejection of the system, rather than a literal resignation, but that's easily misunderstood.

    _______

    There was some sort of explanation, but I don't recall what it was. A ride or a tagalong or something.

    Indeed, this bit of business kind of surprised me.

    I hadn't realized that we had Dobie and Zelda in the same episode.

    He was ready to in the earlier incident that turned out to be Murray's fault.

    Yeah, but it's an interesting way of setting up the premise.

    Good question.

    Professionalism.

    That was more or less implied, if not explicitly stated. When Brackett gave his order, he noted that he'd expected to have heard about the bill one way or the other at that point, but hadn't, and for all he knew it had passed.

    Perhaps up to this point, but we're already seeing how series starting as TV movies will be pretty common in this decade.

    Not that I recall. It was all based on fake psychic insight supported by fake and circumstantial evidence.

    As I recall, the accident was all according to plan, however they pulled it off.
     
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    @The Old Mixer Callahan learns of Scorpio's hospital visit and a doctor reveals to him that the killer lives in a room at Kezar Stadium. Callahan finds him there and chases Scorpio, shooting him in the leg.

    I mentioned in a previous post that when I visited my Uncle and Aunt in Berkeley he took me around to all of the 'Dirty Harry' filming locations. This was one of them. The original home of the San Franscico 49s. I stood exactly where Clint Eastwood and Andy Robinson did on the field. Unfortunately, due to the hurried nature of the visit, I didn't take a camera to document the excursion.
     
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    I'm sure I've never seen it all the way through. I have vague memories of seeing it on TV when my Uncle Joe was watching it, but I doubt if I would have sat through the whole thing. If I did, I was probably reading and not paying attention. :rommie:

    Talk about a superhero scenario-- armed bank robbers fleeing the bank with bags of dough. That sort of thing happens every five minutes in the comics.

    He's always dirty, and yet smartly dressed.

    Garek!

    He saves the jumper by punching him in the face. At least he didn't shoot him. :rommie: I wonder whose idea it was to send Dirty Harry to talk down a suicide.

    His origin story is that his wife was killed by a drunk driver? Why didn't he become a demented Statie? :rommie:

    Or that they didn't have plenty of evidence otherwise by now for probable cause to hold him.

    Or walking the streets.

    Well, he kept coming back.

    Hah. Me neither. :rommie:

    Yet when he had a legitimate excuse, he refrained. Ted is a series regular, after all. :rommie:

    Indeed, it's a legitimate conflict.

    Mm, I suppose.

    Yes, but even in the movies the premise is already in place-- Starsky and Hutch are already partners, the Angels already work for Charlie, et cetera. I can only think of a couple that had origin stories. McCloud springs to mind, because I just saw it the other day (it's on MeTV now, by the way).
     
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    This was his breakout role. He only has one TV credit before this on IMDb. Eastwood saw him in a play.

    And reportedly he got death threats afterward and had to hire security.

    The fire chief or lead fireman on the scene as I recall.






    I've never watched Kolchak, to what extent was its original TV movie an origin story?
     
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    The era of the unconventional law enforcement drama continues (typified by 1968's Bullitt, and 1971's Shaft and The French Connection), and was another classic.

    I always believed Harry's tossing his badge to be his rejection of a terribly flawed system that--ultimately--allowed Scorpio to have one opportunity after another to regain his freedom and continue his serial killer spree. This era of the unconventional law enforcement drama usually had the hero questioning, or damning the system in one way or another, yet they were still determined to do their job (rather than make some flowery speech about changing the world through their actions). Truly a golden age for such subjects, and what's glaring is that all of the film mentioned were produced and released at the height of Jack Webb's often propagandist series on law enforcement (Dragnet ran from 1967 - '70, while Adam-12 aired from 1968-75) never showing just how much the streets were in a state of decay.
     
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    I read on the Wiki page for Paramedics that when Emergency! started, most people had never heard of paramedics and there were only a handful of paramedic programs in the country; when the show ended five years later, there were programs in every state.

    On the other hand, Dirty Harry was very much heightened reality action/thriller fare, and relatively comic book-ish. Adam-12, by contrast, was generally more grounded in day-to-day police work.
     
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    I think a well-reasoned argument can be made (not by me) - that Harry throws away the badge because he's disgusted with himself for actually having become 'Dirty', and with a system that is increasingly shown to be flawed in the way it treats their own and the people it tries to protect.
     
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    Dirty Harry was part of the aforementioned golden age for the unconventional law enforcement drama. Like any movement, what imitators do in the years to follow is not a reflection on the serious, well-presented subjects found in Dirty Harry.

    Regarding Webb's series, most of it was extremely whitewashed about how L.A. cops related to citizens; being an Angelino, I was exposed to LAPD officers at the same time Adam-12 was in production, and the contrast between the good guy images of Reed and Malloy and too many real cops was glaring. But Webb was a pro-police as one could get, and altered actual police reports (far more than changing names to "protect the innocent") at the behest of the LAPD so the series were not that realistic to those who lived in the reality of L.A.'s police department.
     
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    Yep, human nature never changes.

    I definitely should have thought of Kung Fu, but most of the shows with origins are offbeat in some way. You didn't often see it in cop, legal, medical type shows. Kolchak? You could probably look at him both ways. He was a couple of decades into his career as a reporter, but that was apparently his first encounter with the supernatural.