What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Vale]

Which I believe is called Starfleet Admiral, a rank that Admiral Bennett in TFF may also have held depending on whether or not the costume designers gave him the same rank pin as Admiral Cartwright in TVH.

The specific name of the rank changes, but as these people are decades apart that's not unreasonable. Morrow refers to himself as "Commander, Starfleet"; Bill as "Commander in Chief"; and Shanthi and Clancy are "Fleet Admiral", though in each case the intent of the production team was that they were the heads of Starfleet.

 

[cooleddie74]

And that also means that Cartwright and Bennett may have shared the same rank during 2287 unless Cartwright temporarily stepped down as Starfleet C-in-C. and returned once Bennett himself stood down from the job. So much like Captains it's possible even the highest flag rank in Starfleet can be held by more than one person at the same time. Or Bill from TUC took over after Admiral Bennett's stint.

 

[GNDN18]

And yet none could top Starfleet Command Commanding Officer Robert L. Comsol.

 

[Tim Thomason]

I think there's indication that Bill from Star Trek VI might be a six-star Admiral. He has unique insignia that separates him from Fleet Admiral Cartwright also in the movie. They may have gotten rid of the six-star rank with the Khitomer accords, and the five-star and four-star during times of peace (but four-stars quickly returned during the Dominion War). Perhaps the Commander-in-Chief is always the highest rank, whether that's at six stars in 2293 or five stars in 2399 or maybe four stars in 2367.

 

[Deks]

Except that the Klingons and the Romulans generally represent one dominant culture each (with many subjugated cultures, presumably), whereas the Federation represents 150+ equal warp-capable cultures. Minimum, they need 150+ ship classes, probably much more. There's no reason why Henry Archer's design lineage needs to be more important than Sunak of Vulcan's or Greshlarigm of Miracht's or Thranishar ch'Zari's. Diversity of ship designs has always been a core strength of the Federation... even if the Picard finale forgot that fact.

Actually, I don't think the UFP would have 150+ different ship classess just because they have as much member species.
It seems to me that because of having over 150 different species that freely contribute their knowledge, resources and technology to the pool, UFP would have MORE ship classes in the mix... aka, they would experiment more to see what works and what doesn't... however, having over 150 different classes in the mix would probably happen accros centuries... not in a single century... but it seems the 24th century was more or less the era where potentially higher degree of experimentation took place.

Then again, we also know the UFP developed and used temporal tech on a wide scale since at least the 26th century... so...

 

[Tim Thomason]

Actually, I don't think the UFP would have 150+ different ship classess just because they have as much member species.
It seems to me that because of having over 150 different species that freely contribute their knowledge, resources and technology to the pool, UFP would have MORE ship classes in the mix... aka, they would experiment more to see what works and what doesn't... however, having over 150 different classes in the mix would probably happen accros centuries... not in a single century... but it seems the 24th century was more or less the era where potentially higher degree of experimentation took place.

Then again, we also know the UFP developed and used temporal tech on a wide scale since at least the 26th century... so...

It seems that way because the 23rd century was always so barren of class distinction in comparison to the 24th century designs. But Discovery has retconned that possibility away, and the 2250s (and, thus, 2260s) was just as diverse as the 2360s/70s. Which makes sense to me. After 2161, when all these cultures (or, at least, five of them) freely combined their resources, there should've been a massive leap in technology, and the Discovery level of technological expansion from the Enterprise era 100 years before kind of gels together nicely.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Actually, I don't think the UFP would have 150+ different ship classess just because they have as much member species.
It seems to me that because of having over 150 different species that freely contribute their knowledge, resources and technology to the pool, UFP would have MORE ship classes in the mix... aka, they would experiment more to see what works and what doesn't... however, having over 150 different classes in the mix would probably happen accros centuries... not in a single century... but it seems the 24th century was more or less the era where potentially higher degree of experimentation took place.

Then again, we also know the UFP developed and used temporal tech on a wide scale since at least the 26th century... so...

StarFleet has it's own Aesthetic & design priorities that is unique to it's "Institutional Legacy & History".

Each Member Species & Planet will develop commercial and civilian StarShips according to their own Aesthetics, Priorities, & original Technological Base.

Kinda like how Americans, Japanese, & Europeans have their own ways of designing Automobiles.

The same will apply to the great civilian/commercial StarShip market.

Obviously, there will be common points of design, but there will be unique things as well with each species.

Obviously, the UFP government can make their own civilian StarShip for the civilian / commercial market, but that's going to have to compete against every member species and all their various entities within it making products for the average consumer to choose from.

 

[Sketcher]

Not necessarily Trek, but I do not understand the love of the Mego line of figures. They just look like oversized dolls with inaccurate accessories and playsets. Then again I grew up during the 90s Playmates line so that's where my nostalgia lies. Cue some kid born in the 2000s who loves the '09 Trek figures above them all... for some reason.

 

[Vger23]

Not necessarily Trek, but I do not understand the love of the Mego line of figures. They just look like oversized dolls with inaccurate accessories and playsets. Then again I grew up during the 90s Playmates line so that's where my nostalgia lies. Cue some kid born in the 2000s who loves the '09 Trek figures above them all... for some reason.

Even as a kid who was born in the mid 70’s, I thought the Mego toys for Trek were bizarre.

 

[fireproof78]

Not necessarily Trek, but I do not understand the love of the Mego line of figures. They just look like oversized dolls with inaccurate accessories and playsets. Then again I grew up during the 90s Playmates line so that's where my nostalgia lies. Cue some kid born in the 2000s who loves the '09 Trek figures above them all... for some reason.

I prefer the Mego and 09 to the Playmates. The articulation of the Playmates always bugged me.

 

[Lord Garth]

Prepare to be weirded out: in 2022, TNG will be as old as TOS was when ENT started.

 

[cooleddie74]

[*Faith of the Lower Back deteriorates*]

 

[XCV330]

controversial opinion: California Class is great. It's grown on me over the last couple of years. It's practical, gets the job done. It doesn't look like it's been smashed on the griddle in drydock with an overenthusiastic spatula

 

[fireproof78]

controversial opinion: California Class is great. It's grown on me over the last couple of years. It's practical, gets the job done. It doesn't look like it's been smashed on the griddle in drydock with an overenthusiastic spatula

It's one of my favorite TNG era style ships.

 

[Farscape One]

I don't know if this is controversial or not, but speaking of ships of the TNG era, the Nebula class is the best kitbash class of ship they ever did.

(Kitbash, to me, is quite different than one built from scratch, like the Intrepid, Defiant, Akira, Norway, Steamrunner, etc. class ships.)

 

[fireproof78]

the Nebula class is the best kitbash class of ship they ever did.

Agreed.

 

[Vger23]

I love the Nebula-class.

 

[Lord Garth]

I love the Nebula-class.

If the Galaxy Class is the 1986 Ford Taurus, then the Nebula Class is the 1986 Mercury Sable.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Nebula, its variants, and California are all great.

 

[Vale]

I don't know if this is controversial or not, but speaking of ships of the TNG era, the Nebula class is the best kitbash class of ship they ever did.

Poor old Nebula-class. I remember when it got all the TNG-era love. "It's the best class of starship ever designed!" "ZOMG it's so pretty!" "Much nicer than the Enterprise!" Everyone's fanfic/RPG ship was a Nebula-class, DeviantArt was full of fan variants, you name it. Indisputably the fan favourite. Then BOOM, the Akira-class appears, and just like that nobody cares about the Nebula-class any more...