General Trek Questions and Observations

[Kor]

I wonder how many command trainees (or whatever you call the person taking the captain's seat in the sim) would have just accepted the results and the test giver's speech about building character and moved on, instead of going back to take the test two more times like Kirk did, for a total of three times.

Kor

 

[fireproof78]

I wonder how many command trainees (or whatever you call the person taking the captain's seat in the sim) would have just accepted the results and the test giver's speech about building character and moved on, instead of going back to take the test two more times like Kirk did, for a total of three times.

Kor

I think Kirk was the only to go back.

 

[Orphalesion]

I think Kirk was the only to go back.

The only one in generation after generation?

I do not believe that.

 

[fireproof78]

The only one in generation after generation?

I do not believe that.

Up until that point I should say. After that I have no idea.

 

[Orphalesion]

Up until that point I should say. After that I have no idea.

Unless his class was among the first to do that test, I still don't belief that.
What's the source for that anyway?

 

[fireproof78]

Unless his class was among the first to do that test, I still don't belief that.
What's the source for that anyway?

None. Speculation based upon dialog from ST 09 where Bones goes "Jim, it's the Kobayashi Maru. No one goes back for seconds, much less thirds."

 

[Orphalesion]

None. Speculation based upon dialog from ST 09 where Bones goes "Jim, it's the Kobayashi Maru. No one goes back for seconds, much less thirds."

Ah okay.
Well, to me this statement sounds more (and I hope I use the correct word) generalised. People generally don't go for seconds/thirds, but it doesn't exclude the possibility of the occasional oddball student doing so anyway, both before and after Kirk.
Of course that's just my interpretation.

 

[fireproof78]

Might check your quote tag, but in general I agree. I just wouldn't surprised if people just take the lesson and run.

 

[Orphalesion]

I just wouldn't surprised if people just take the lesson and run.

And something like 99 out of 100 probably do. Maybe even 999 out of 1000, or maybe even more.
Still would leave more people doing it than just Kirk

 

[fireproof78]

And something like 99 out of 100 probably do. Maybe even 999 out of 1000, or maybe even more.
Still would leave more people doing it than just Kirk

Naturally. I just don't think they necessarily would. Mileage will vary, etc.

 

[FederationHistorian]

When you really think about it, Coridan politics seems really interesting.

• Coridan government is engaged in a planetwide conflict with rebels in the 22nd century

• The leadership was a puppet government backed by the Vulcans, a major power player in the 22nd century that clamped down on widespread criminal activities (Aragon) and corruption (Mazarites), participated in the Interspecies Medical Exchange (which included Denobula, Ithenites, Mazarites, Humans, and Coridan itself), and held back Earth’s progress with warp drive. And the Vulcans themselves were influenced by Romulan operatives until the Vulcan High Command was disbanded – for a century at least.

• Andorians were barred from being on the surface of Coridan due to the Tau Ceti Accords that they signed with the Vulcans during their conflict with each other. Another sign of Vulcan’s influence over Coridan.

• Coridan traded with the Orion Syndicate, while United Planets of Tellar objected to that and wanted a trade embargo against the Orions over attacks on their freighters. And Orions were known to some Earth freighters and scientist such as Dr. Arik Soong around the same time. And a century later, Orions tried to sabotage the Babel Conference to start an interplanetary war and then continue their illegal mining operations on Coridan to raid them of their dilithium supply to supply both sides of the war.

• Remained on diplomatic terms with United Earth in the mid-2150s, but don’t join the Federation until a century later, which provided them protection from the Orion Syndicate. But also made them a target for Federation enemies like the Dominion due to their strategic value a century after that.

This make it look like Coridan politics could be its own show.

 

[Iluvlacquer]

That this might be interesting reading: From Wikipedia-

"Timothy Brown argues that Dr. Sevrin is "a clear stand-in for Timothy Leary." Like the acolytes of Leary, Charles Manson, and other counter-culture leaders, Sevrin's followers are "under the spell of charismatic but dangerously unhinged leaders" and "stand for a sixties generation in the thrall of misled idealism."

 

[shapeshifter]

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ROKU's new winterized screensaver has a surprise!

 

[1001001]

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ROKU's new winterized screensaver has a surprise!

The science fiction theme has the Enterprise, and all kinds of images from different movies and shows.

 

[FederationHistorian]

Something I observed while browsing Memory Alpha.

The Federation and the Klingon Empire run parallel to each other in terms of conflicts they’ve had. They share several conflicts (Federation-Klingon Wars, Cardassian Wars, Dominion cold war, Dominion War, Temporal Cold War). They’ve even had their own invaders. The Hur’q that plundered Qonos, and the Romulans that attacked Earth during the Earth-Romulan War. I know of no Qonos-Romulan War occurring between the 9th and the 22nd century, but with Klingons being warp capable at early as the late 1940s, anything possible.

But, there are a couple of conflicts that remain distinct to them each. The Federation have the Galen border conflict with the Talarians & the Tzenkethi Wars durng the Lost Era. While the Klingons had a civil war during TNG, which was influence by Sela and the Romulan Empire.

I'm wondering, with there being a few gaps largely unexplored and unfilled in Trek history (ENT and The Cage, The Lost Era, PIC and DIS S3) if the inverse happened to both powers. In that the Federation has its own civil war (logic extremists don’t count), and if the Klingons had their own Galen border conflict with Talarians and their own Tzenkethi Wars to further highlight how they run parallel to each other.

 

[Orphalesion]

Why did they never show the Gorn again in TOS?

I mean they already had that costume and it looks pretty good for 1960s TV costumes.

 

[Iluvlacquer]

It would have been cool to see the UFP establish a treaty with the Gorn

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Why did they never show the Gorn again in TOS?

I mean they already had that costume and it looks pretty good for 1960s TV costumes.

I suppose the inflexibility of the mask? Or maybe down to Roddenberry wanting to avoid Bug-eyed Monster cliches?

I know from photos that they keep the costume around. It is curious it didn't even show up in the background again? Maybe they just felt it didn't work?

 

[Coops]

Does anybody here still watch those nutjob YouTubers, like that infant who wears that silly mask? Doomcock, was it? Or that angry lady with the red hair? The ones who were forever telling their marks, sorry, subscribers, that Discovery had been cancelled, Kurtzman had been escorted from the lot by security and that there'd be no more Star Trek because of how many millions CBS had lost on it?

Because I'd love to know what they say now, after all the content that's being churned out, but I like myself too much to put myself through listening to them.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I think this is probably a commonly discussed question, but I was thinking about the kind of HD upgrade VOY/DS9 so sorely need, even though it's nowhere near even getting started.

How far are we technologically from the point where a fan could do it? I know there are already AI upscaled efforts out there, but how far away are we from being able to produce a 4K remaster from home software/ Or will it always be impossible?