^I always thought Price was way underrated as a Bond villain. He was quite good in his role, and I was happy that his character had different motivation from the typical" global domination" plot.
Pierces Brosnan’s Tenure as James Bond…
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I heard rumors that Jonathan Pryce replaced Anthony Hopkins as Elliot Carver in Tomorrow Never Dies due to Hopkins unsatisfied with filming with an unfinished script. Hopkins actually walked off the set after a few days of filming, or so I heard...
I heard rumors that Jonathan Pryce replaced Anthony Hopkins as Elliot Carver in Tomorrow Never Dies due to Hopkins unsatisfied with filming with an unfinished script. Hopkins actually walked off the set after a few days of filming, or so I heard...
Anthony Hopkins as a Bond villain would be something I would really pay to see. It's a shame it didn't happen, but Jonathan Price still did a really good job.
Goldeneye really reinvigorated the franchise. It has a rubbish score, but overall it's good fun, and Sean Bean is a good physical match for Bond - the fight between them at the end is the best since FRWL (and until Casino Royale)
TND is fun, but suffers from having filmed without a completed script, and Pierce having the practically rewrite it on location. Knowing the villain and his plan from the start makes things too obvious, and some purists complain about the shoot-em-up ending, but as a heroic bloodshed fan I loved that. Best score of the series too.
TWINE is the best of the four, IMO - it has the best balance of plot and action, even if Denise Richards is crap. The parahawk sequence is pure padding though, and needs to be at least re-scored (it really needs the blare of the Bond theme when he jumps that little rock as the grenades go off on either side.)
DAD is, like Moonraker, bad Bond but great cinematic entertainment. It's not meant to be a "serious" Bond movie, but an anniversary special that evokes your memories of the other flicks. Sort of the equivalent of The Five Doctors in Dr Who, or Trials And Tribble-ations in Star Trek.
TND is fun, but suffers from having filmed without a completed script, and Pierce having the practically rewrite it on location. Knowing the villain and his plan from the start makes things too obvious, and some purists complain about the shoot-em-up ending, but as a heroic bloodshed fan I loved that. Best score of the series too.
TWINE is the best of the four, IMO - it has the best balance of plot and action, even if Denise Richards is crap. The parahawk sequence is pure padding though, and needs to be at least re-scored (it really needs the blare of the Bond theme when he jumps that little rock as the grenades go off on either side.)
DAD is, like Moonraker, bad Bond but great cinematic entertainment. It's not meant to be a "serious" Bond movie, but an anniversary special that evokes your memories of the other flicks. Sort of the equivalent of The Five Doctors in Dr Who, or Trials And Tribble-ations in Star Trek.
Yeah, I don't see what the fuss is there either.
I'm glad you mentioned the scores. Every Bond movie from Tomorrow Never Dies onward has been scored by the excellent David Arnold (who also wrote one of my all-time favorite movie scores, Stargate). I'd put him right up there next to Danny Elfman, Jerry Goldsmith, & John Williams. (Heck, when my friend heard the opening theme to Stargate, he was convinced it was Williams.)
I far prefered him in Brazil but at the same time I still don't understand the irrational aversion to him and the business tycoon he was depicting. Sure he was shredding apart the scenery and was old school, but that meant he was a decent Bond villain and not some bland, pretentious fop like Renard or Gustav Graves. And his plan on hindsight was one of the better money making schemes; ostensibly start a limited war for ratings (which seems daft), but really help a internal coup in China, and then get rewarded with exclusive media rights over a billion people (not so daft).
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No, he didn't.
You ressurected this thread to make an inane three word comment? 
It was a short run for Brosnan's bond. It wasn't a failure but it wasn't a huge sucess.
Its sad the alst one he made had to be that damn DAD
I would have to say TWINE was my favorite very closley fallowed by TND and then Goldeneye. TWINES only real down fall was Christmas Jones
If he would of done only those 3 I would say it was a pretty fair sucess but DAD just kills the whole reputation.
Its sad the alst one he made had to be that damn DAD
I would have to say TWINE was my favorite very closley fallowed by TND and then Goldeneye. TWINES only real down fall was Christmas Jones
If he would of done only those 3 I would say it was a pretty fair sucess but DAD just kills the whole reputation.
Re: Pierces Brosnan’s Tenure as James Bond…
The role of Alec Trevelyan in GoldenEye was written for Hopkins. When Brosnan was cast as Bond, Hopkins was too old to be believable as a contemporary of Brosnan, so the younger Sean Bean was cast as Trevelyan.
Looking back at Brosnan's tenure always makes me a little sad. I think he's fantastic as Bond but was very unfortunate in the movies they gave him. There's only one I really consider excellent, one I think is mediocre and two I cannot stand.
I think Tomorrow Never Dies was excellent, one of my favorite Bonds, in fact. I think this has a lot to do with the fact that Michelle Yeoh's characters is easily one of my favorite Bond girls. I think she has great chemistry with Brosnan, and actually giving her a proper role just makes the overall movie so much more enjoyable.
I don't quite buy Pryce as the villain here although I really like him as an actor. Still, I like the idea for the villain as well as his plan. And what's not to like about the headline "The Empire Strikes Back"
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Goldeneye was ok IMHO but not much to write home about. It felt like they were still getting used to Brosnan as Bond at that point to me. However, I will say that I haven't seen this in a long time and wouldn't mind checking it out again.
The World Is Not Enough was just a plain stupid and unengaging movie IMHO. The introduction of Dr. Christmas Jones hinted at the de-evolution of Bond girls in the franchise that would reach its climax in the next movie. And it just can't be a good idea if you're naming a character just for the sake of a cheap one-liner at the end of the film.
Add to that what I'd consider a pretty weak story and the fact that there just seemed to be oil barrels standing around everywhere, just waiting to explode, and you've got a pretty lame movie.
Die Another Day IMHO is just absolutely beyond belief in terms of just how stupid it is. It's not like Moonraker which went way over the top but knew it was doing it and never took itself very seriously. This movie just totally overdoes EVERYTHING even beyond caricature but never once stops to stop taking itself seriously.
The end result is IMHO an overblown, stupid, sexist, and utterly boring film that should have never been made in the first place. I'll never understand how they even dreamed of releasing this.
I think Tomorrow Never Dies was excellent, one of my favorite Bonds, in fact. I think this has a lot to do with the fact that Michelle Yeoh's characters is easily one of my favorite Bond girls. I think she has great chemistry with Brosnan, and actually giving her a proper role just makes the overall movie so much more enjoyable.
I don't quite buy Pryce as the villain here although I really like him as an actor. Still, I like the idea for the villain as well as his plan. And what's not to like about the headline "The Empire Strikes Back"
.Goldeneye was ok IMHO but not much to write home about. It felt like they were still getting used to Brosnan as Bond at that point to me. However, I will say that I haven't seen this in a long time and wouldn't mind checking it out again.
The World Is Not Enough was just a plain stupid and unengaging movie IMHO. The introduction of Dr. Christmas Jones hinted at the de-evolution of Bond girls in the franchise that would reach its climax in the next movie. And it just can't be a good idea if you're naming a character just for the sake of a cheap one-liner at the end of the film.
Add to that what I'd consider a pretty weak story and the fact that there just seemed to be oil barrels standing around everywhere, just waiting to explode, and you've got a pretty lame movie.
Die Another Day IMHO is just absolutely beyond belief in terms of just how stupid it is. It's not like Moonraker which went way over the top but knew it was doing it and never took itself very seriously. This movie just totally overdoes EVERYTHING even beyond caricature but never once stops to stop taking itself seriously.
The end result is IMHO an overblown, stupid, sexist, and utterly boring film that should have never been made in the first place. I'll never understand how they even dreamed of releasing this.
I enjoyed Goldeneye and I thought The World is Not Enough was boring as sin, outside of the first 10 minutes and the fact they had a really hot Bond girl who wasn't Denise Richards. Never saw Tomorrow Never Dies or Die Another Day.
Whatever you think about Bronson's Bond films, you cannont argue with his success. The last two films he made were the first Bond films to gross over $100 million in the U.S. and I believe Goldeneye's worldwide total was very large as well. Bronson's films made money and I think he was a very good Bond. Craig is a better one I think and I believe he is getting better material than Bronson.
Whatever you think about Bronson's Bond films, you cannont argue with his success. The last two films he made were the first Bond films to gross over $100 million in the U.S. and I believe Goldeneye's worldwide total was very large as well. Bronson's films made money and I think he was a very good Bond. Craig is a better one I think and I believe he is getting better material than Bronson.
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Honestly, I actually wanted to protest the fact that my pompous theatre professor in front of his mostly caucasian classroom from 8 years back praised Jonathan Pryce for putting on yellow face makeup along with slitty-eyes for the Eurasian street urchin character he portrayed in Cameron McKintosh's "Miss Saigon," but could not come up with an effective, under the radar jab for it, so his unfair comparison to fellow theatrical thespian Anthony Hopkins had to do.You ressurected this thread to make an inane three word comment?
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I would have so paid real money to see Charles Bronson as 007 back in the day:
Death Wish VI: GoldenEye
I would have so paid real money to see Charles Bronson as 007 back in the day:
Death Wish VI: GoldenEye
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Yeah, maybe if Octopussy or something tanked and they signed Bond rights over to Golan-Globus/Canon pictures.
Bronson: "My name's Bond, James Bond."
(shoots guy)
Bronson: "And you're dead, real dead."
Next movie is Bond machine-gunning arab terrorists for 90 minutes.
Stereotype Terrorist: "Allah Ackbar!"
(Brosnan kills him)
Brosnan: "Allah your troubles are over."
Bronson: "My name's Bond, James Bond."
(shoots guy)
Bronson: "And you're dead, real dead."
Next movie is Bond machine-gunning arab terrorists for 90 minutes.
Stereotype Terrorist: "Allah Ackbar!"
(Brosnan kills him)
Brosnan: "Allah your troubles are over."