Captain Kirk heading to space.. for real!

[TREK_GOD_1]

Takei has so many self-generated BS demons flowing from his ass, that it has overtaken (for several decades) any good will he vultured from TOS/TAS/TOS-movies. A glorified day player still proving he was too ignorant to understand the business he worked in, and allowed the convention / media explosion of interest in TOS (starting in the early 70s) to con him into thinking he--or his character were ever as important to the success of ST as Shatner / Kirk.

His legacy will mirror others who resent the essence of what others have in achieving (whatever that may be) in their lives.

 

[Push The Button]

Why George, why? You’re not hurting Shatner, because I’m sure he doesn’t care at this point, but you are hurting yourself and the fan base.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Shatner is 90 and never had to stop acting even after typecasting. Takei had to do the convention circuit. That's the issue. Before this potshot, I just felt Takei was trying to just keep himself in the public eye with this feud. Now, he's just a douchebag.

Shatner got attention about this flight because he's William frigging Shatner. And he didn't have to do all that much, Trekkies were all over that shit and fainting with admiration over it. I give the man credit for not milking the Trek connection and using the opportunity to quote Trek lines. The press did that for him.

Shatner could be the biggest ass on set for all I care. Until he was attacked, he never had anything bad to say about his coworkers in the press. Ever. And even then, he only responds.

As for Nimoy and his actions on set, remember, Roddenberry had to write a multi page letter scolding him (as well as Shatner and to a smaller extent Kelley) for his "selfishness and egocentricity." So for all of the "Shatner was a dick but Nimoy was a gem" reports, people like who they like. Egos are fragile.

 

[cooleddie74]

Again, I love George. But dammit, dude, put a sock in it for right now.

 

[fireproof78]

It would be wise to ignore it and appreciate Shatner's experience.

 

[Noname Given]

Did Shatner actually say Nimoy stole Doohan's lines? Like Nimoy went up to GR and demand he got extra lines from Doohan. And never once did Shatner count lines or demand extra lines?
Have all this time we've been told lies about Shatner doing this and it was all Nimoy. How did Nimoy pull the wool over Takei, Doohan, Nichol's eyes? My gosh Nimoy is sneaky..
Anyway I don't think Takei's and Doohan's main beef with Shatner was that he stole lines but treated them like scum, forgot their names, refused to answer phone calls or acknowledge their existence. I mean that was what Doohan said in his book as well as saying Shatner made his character look a bit of a fool in TFF.

Anyway no matter how Shatner treats his fans, cast members he is still a legend. Going up in space at age 90. Still performing and going to conventions. Fantastic.

Um...William Windom during his time as a guest star on TOS S2 "The Doomsday Machine" said BOTH Shatner and Nimoy were line counting on the set.

 

[Reanok]

I was really excited to see William Shatner's space launch and the Joy he felt after returning to Earth. It is a major accomplishment for someone 90 years old to have achieved to be oldest person to ride into space. Too bad George Takei is acting like a world class jerk attacking William Shatner about his space launch and being jealous about it.

 

[Spock's Barber]

Koenig has voiced his opinions about Shatner, but at least he’s more low key than Takei.

 

[cooleddie74]

And Shatner actually had him on his Raw Nerve interview series as a guest. They spent an entire episode hammering out their differences or at least trying to. Koenig went into the belly of the beast and made it clear he had issues with Shatner and Shatner actually said he'd made mistakes and been so focused on acting and earning his paycheck that he probably came off as insensitive.

 

[Spock's Barber]

To his credit, at least Koenig does have some nice things to say about Shatner...

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[Ssosmcin]

How about...

"I worked with him on an off for a few years. I was a part timer, so we didn't spend a lot of time together. He's not really a person in my life, but you people keep asking me about him and I have nothing else to talk about that you're interested so..."

 

[fireproof78]

And Shatner actually had him on his Raw Nerve interview series as a guest. They spent an entire episode hammering out their differences or at least trying to. Koenig went into the belly of the beast and made it clear he had issues with Shatner and Shatner actually said he'd made mistakes and been so focused on acting and earning his paycheck that he probably came off as insensitive.

Shatner documented a similar conversation with Nichelle Nichols in "Star Trek Memories" as part of the wrap up of the book. He had made some effort to understand is coworkers at the time, and how his behavior had impacted them. It's interesting and informative, if nothing else.

 

[Trekker09]

After watching the documentary on Nichelle Nichols' work with NASA, it seems like she of all the Trek actors deserves to go on this flight...I was impressed with Shatner's emotional response, and his expressing environmental concern, but OTOH he also used an interview to plug a song from his latest record album.

 

[Yistaan]

Shatner could be the biggest ass on set for all I care. Until he was attacked, he never had anything bad to say about his coworkers in the press. Ever. And even then, he only responds.

As for Nimoy and his actions on set, remember, Roddenberry had to write a multi page letter scolding him (as well as Shatner and to a smaller extent Kelley) for his "selfishness and egocentricity." So for all of the "Shatner was a dick but Nimoy was a gem" reports, people like who they like. Egos are fragile.

In over 50 years' worth of Trek behind the scenes stories, I've never heard of anything serious about Shatner on set that I didn't feel was overblown or misconstrued. I don't think anything Shatner was ever said to have done on Trek's set remotely compares to say, Mulgrew's alleged treatment of Jeri Ryan on Voyager.

And I'm just really sad that Takei needs to go this route in knocking Shatner as "unfit" to go into space (and seriously, if Shatner's an example of what physically unfit looks like at 90, sign me up). As an Asian myself, Takei's not doing us any favors talking like this as the Asian representative member of TOS.

 

[Ssosmcin]

After watching the documentary on Nichelle Nichols' work with NASA, it seems like she of all the Trek actors deserves to go on this flight...

I would agree if she were in a better state of health and mind than she's in now. Sadly, the time for her to do it has passed. Actually, I would have preferred she was a civilian on an actual NASA shuttle launch. That would have been something.

In over 50 years I've never heard of anything serious about Shatner on set that I didn't feel was overblown or misconstrued. I don't think anything Shatner was ever said to have done on Trek's set remotely compares to say, Mulgrew's alleged treatment of Jeri Ryan on Voyager.

And I'm just really sad that Takei needs to go this route in knocking Shatner as "unfit" to go into space (and seriously, if Shatner's an example of what physically unfit looks like at 90, sign me up). As an Asian myself, Takei's not doing us any favors talking like this as the Asian representative member of TOS.

All of this. Shatner was, at worst, a self centered line counter overly concerned with his image.

I hope I'm as energetic at 90 as Shatner. I'm barely holding it together at 53.8.

 

[Phoenix219]

I don't think he even saw them as coworkers. Just scum. Like you and me. LOL

Why would you ever feel that way?

I have never seen any evidence that he is an elitist on that level that looks down on his fellow humans, whether co-workers fans or strangers.

 

[XCV330]

ok, this one got me.

Finally the window vs screen issue is settled

 

[Commishsleer]

Why would you ever feel that way?

I have never seen any evidence that he is an elitist on that level that looks down on his fellow humans, whether co-workers fans or strangers.

My "evidence" is I've been to conventions and got a photo with him, I spoke to others in the line and heard about their previous experiences with him before. I've read Doohan's biography, other coworkers, I've heard Shatner himself (online)., Maybe you guys have had different experience where Shatner has had a chat to you in the autograph line or even just said "Hello" as you get a photograph. LOL.
I'm not saying Shatner is a bad person. I'm not someone he has personally wronged. And the worst I heard said of him was that he was basically rude. Not that he ruined anyone's career or anything like that. I reckon, Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher probably have the same feeling about their fans and their stupid questions that Shatner does but are just too polite to say so.
You know Takei and Doohan may have just been "day players" but deserved respect as human beings. Saying that - Takei could just let it go after 40 years. Thats why I'm suspecting the "feud" is just something made up to create interest by both of them.

 

[Neopeius]

Um...William Windom during his time as a guest star on TOS S2 "The Doomsday Machine" said BOTH Shatner and Nimoy were line counting on the set.

And to be fair, I'm as gracious as they come, and I'd line count. (partially because I'm OCD and count everything...)

 

[Paul Weaver]

https://newsthump.com/2021/10/13/wi...in-rocket-to-search-for-reborn-leonard-nimoy/

An arrest warrant has been issued for Star Trek actor William Shatner, who is reported to have stolen the Blue Origin rocket he launched in today.
....
Shatner and his crew – reported to comprise Nichelle Nichols, George Takei and Walter Koenig – are understood to believe that Leonard Nimoy will have been reborn on a new, Edenic alien world as suggested in a 1984 documentary.