Set blueprint exchange

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by Redgeneral, May 10, 2014.

  1. Redgeneral

    Redgeneral Commander Red Shirt

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    Sorry for the late reply - its been a little chaotic this past week or so.

    I saw the two additional auctions, but I decided against adding them due to the same sheets already being in the archive in higher quality.

    There has been some progress on the corridor set:
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    Still trying to figure out the hand rail though
     
  2. Lt. Washburn

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    When you are looking at variations, are you making sure there aren't subtle things like notations that might be different between them?

    I have some handrail screencaps that I'll dig up showing their odd profile.

    Also, I recently acquired one of the sconces like those in Ten Forward. Since they are used in the corridor lounge area, which you were working on, would you like some dimensions to help recreate that set more completely?
     
  3. Redgeneral

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    Dimensions for the wall sconces would be great - Thank you
     
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  4. Nays

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    Does this help with the handrail?
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    Saw another shot that might help.
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  6. Lt. Washburn

    Lt. Washburn Captain Captain

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    That's a good one.
     
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  7. Redgeneral

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    I hadn't seen the second screenshot - that is indeed a good one
     
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  8. Redgeneral

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    After the unusual concept runabout, I felt it might be a good idea to have a folder on the archive for concept art. This folder will feature images of unrealised concepts or concepts with details that didn't make it to screen.
    Folder: http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836

    Additions:
    Defiant - An early idea was the the defiant would be a beefed up runabout. Scaled up, the cockpit became a full bridge.
    Scaled up runabout exterior - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312445299
    Scaled up Bridge - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312439978
    Valiant concepts - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312447205
    More Valiant - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312318913

    Cardassian
    Cardassian shuttle - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312314626
    Cardassian space station - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312313075

    Gorn - Could have turned up in TNG
    Gorn ship - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312315719

    Federation Relay transmitter
    http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312320454

    Runabout
    Cleaner version of previously posted concept - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312797960
    Early design with front pod being cockpit and ward room, and utilised as an escape pod if needed - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322345294020
    Underside of warp sled attachment - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312791670
    Cockpit without transporter pad - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312793881
    Rear room - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312795170

    Voyager - These have all been seen before, but these are larger images than most online
    Ship exterior 1 (similar to sabre class) - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322313826008
    Ship exterior 2 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322313831720
    Ship exterior 3 (similar to Oberth class) - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322313827507
    A lot of bridge concepts - (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7)
    Voyager rooms - infirmary, sickbay, quarters, engineering, conference

    Delta flyer
    Advanced shuttle - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322340525042

    Refit
    Aft Bridge - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322333844188

    The sources so far for this folder are https://alphamecha-mkii.tumblr.com/ , http://www.jimmartindesign.co/Movies_Games.php?lang=en&submenu=x&name=Overview , memory alpha , and https://startrekships.tumblr.com/
     
  9. Lt. Washburn

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    This is great, but the pages aren't loading for me. Anyone else having a problem with them?

    Also, will this include things like prop concepts? I've always thought there should be a comprehensive collection for that.
     
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    Not loading on my smartphone at least. Haven’t checked on my PC yet.
     
  11. Redgeneral

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    I think the archive concept art pages should work now - it seems the "hidden" flag got toggled somehow.

    Prop concept art is a good idea, so I've made a separate album for those:
    Folder: http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322444067940
    So far it has:
    • Archer's Toy spaceship - elevation drawing
    • Ferengi gambling machines
    • Garak's device from "The Die is Cast"
    • Bajoran temple item and Klingon musical instrument
    • NX torpedo
    • Romulan disruptor (x2)
    • Romulan Rifle
    • 2009 reboot rifle (x2)
    • TNG phaser akin to TOS style two part phaser (x3)
    • TNG cobra phaser
    • TNG cobra phaser without bend
    • TNG "Riot Gun"
    • TNG tricorders (x5)
    • TNG wrist devices (x3)
    • Eaves Phasers (x3) [for ENT?]
    • Voyager Rifle
    • DS9 away suit
    • Exocomp
    • Comm badge (circular with embossed delta symbol)
    • Conspiracy Bloke (can't remember name)
     
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  13. BorgMan

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    Y'know, the longer I look at it, the more the beefed up Runabout cockpit seems like a direct inspiration for La Sirena's cockpit area...

    Also: that Gorn light cruiser is AWESOME! So much unique lines! Jim Martin's design work really is something else. Even though I like what Eaves has brought us, I keep repeating myself that I find his lines just a bit too much of more along the same design language, whatever the race or supposed time of construction. Can't say that with Martin...
     
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  14. ashleytinger

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    Every time I see that concept of the Refit Bridge it reminds me of Alien and the Nostromo.
     
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  15. Redgeneral

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    Added another diagram of the Orbital office to the Starfleet folder. This one has annotations.
    http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15415366461389/16324043996576

    And now, some more concept art...

    The first concept art folder has been renamed from "Concept Art" to "Concept Art - ships and interiors".

    New additions:

    DS9
    Early DS9 station - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324068116494
    Consoles (defiant? runabout?) - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324067159980

    Enterprise
    Unused NX Enterprise 01 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324065568067
    Unused NX Enterprise 02 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324065571321
    Source: unknown (found on hard disc)

    TNG
    Stella cartography A - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324043107486
    Stella cartography B - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324043106031
    Source: https://haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted.tumblr.com/tagged/Star-Trek

    Conspiracy Parasite - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322444067940/16324039430439
    Source: https://haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted.tumblr.com/image/646604663919132672
    Goes with the parent parasite posted earlier (http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322444067940/16322465636080)

    Discovery
    Shenzou interior - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324041481918
    Source: https://haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted.tumblr.com/image/651276099772416001

    Unused ships ST Beyond
    Ship 1 A - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324040198710
    Ship 1 B - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324040199583
    Ship 2 A - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324040200402
    Ship 2 B - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324040201471
    Unused Vulcan ship - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324040205274
    Sources: https://texk.myportfolio.com/star-trek-beyond and https://alphamecha-mkii.tumblr.com/post/663063749168627712

    Shuttles
    Bajoran scout - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324054359485
    Latent image ship - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324055340111
    Source: unknown (found on hard disc)

    Bajoran raider - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324041799300
    DS9 shuttle - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324041864115
    Admiral Janeway shuttle interior - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324042023311

    ST-V Shuttle - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324053086604
    Source: https://twitter.com/ArtofTrek/status/1335277231409668101
    I really like this shuttle design.


    And finally another new album "Concept Art - People"
    Folder: http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16324033667645

    Generations costumes
    (unused uniforms, Guinan, Checkov, Kirk, Scotty, and the holodeck uniforms)
    Folder: http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16324033667645
    Source: https://haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted...generations-costume-concept-designs-by-robert

    Borg
    Drone Body - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16324033667645/16324035746289
    Drone Face - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16324033667645/16324035747458
    Source: https://haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted...trek-the-next-generation-borg-concept-art#_=_
     
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  16. Lt. Washburn

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    Awesome! And I've never seen the ST5 shuttle design before. But that brings to mind a question I had recently, who is mostly responsible for the ST5 Galileo/Type-6 shuttle? I've seen what I think were ST5 plans that had side windows like the later Type-6 but aren't on the movie version. And those windows are reminiscent of the Type-7, which had already been designed....so was it Probert? I think Sternbach (though I could be completely wrong) was involved in conceptualizing the modifications to the Type-6. Or was it some other designer that was only working on the movie?
     
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    Probert didn't work on the ST:V film - he had left Trek after TNG series 1

    I've gone through the IMDB credits for the film and the possibilities are
    • Herman F. Zimmerman ... Production Design (as Herman Zimmerman)
    • Anthony Brockliss ... assistant art director
    • Antoinette J. Gordon ... set designer (as Antoinette Gordon)
    • Richard McKenzie ... set designer (as Richard Frank McKenzie)
    • Andrew Neskoromny ... set designer
    • Rick Sternbach ... illustrator
    • Sandy Veneziano ... assistant art director (as Sandy L. Veneziano)
    • Ron Wilkinson ... set designer (as Ronald R. Wilkinson)
     
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    ^Also Nilo Rodis-Jamero, who did double duty as art director and costume designer.

    As far as the page of mystery DS9 consoles drawn by Doug Drexler, I'm leaning toward the Defiant; the half-circle shape of that one console looks like it could be an early version of the Defiant's conn, and the other consoles have a feel to them that's more Defiant than runabout.
     
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  19. Rekkert

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    Eaves' first work in Trek was in V (uncredited, he was very young and technically just a helper to Greg Jein) and he did concept art for the shuttle, as well as the starfleet phaser and the closeup on the Klingon BoP disruptor (all stuff Jein Inc had to build for the movie). This is all on the Art of John Eaves book. It's unclear if he further elaborated from this early concept piece or if someone else did.

    EDIT: Okey, the book says that his version of the shuttle got scrapped in favor of a design by Nilo Rodis-Jamero, so I guess that answers that.
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    Later for TNG, the shuttle got updated by Sternbach following the design he originally intended for the replacement of the Type-7 shuttle which he wanted to do for season 2 (but was rejected due to budget, hence we got the Type-15 pod).
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    EDIT 2: Sorry, I forgot to add, regarding the Drexler DS9 console, I'm fairly certain it's concept for the added standing console the Runabout set had in season 5.
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  20. Lt. Washburn

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    I feel like I've seen those concepts before in relation to the late-season standing console on the Runabout.