Random Thoughts...or...What's on Your Mind?

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  1. auntiehill

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    It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this.
    Alexander Hamilton
     
  2. shapeshifter

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    Not as bad as a toilet and a kitchen sink sharing a room.

    Only if you are washing by hand with a tub, washboard and wringer system. Not that I'd know anything about those, my granny told me about them. Modern machines run cycles without much supervision necessary.
     
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  3. Mr. Laser Beam

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    "Democracy is the worst form of government...except for all the others." - Winston Churchill
     
  4. BK613

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    "Democracy is based on the assumption that a million men are wiser than one man. How’s that again? I missed something." -The Notebook of Lazarus Long
     
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  5. Commander Troi

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    Retail? :lol:

    My grandmother had a "machine" not far removed from that - poverty more than age, I think. Toilets in laundry rooms/basements were pretty common in really old houses where I grew up, including my parents' house. We also found cobbler's tools and a wooden winepress down there!
     
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  6. JirinPanthosa

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    But you still have to walk into the room to load and unload the washer and dryer, and some people take a long time in there. If you lived in the house with 4+ people it'd be hard to plan around.
     
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  7. JirinPanthosa

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    I would disagree with that. It's based on the assumption that the worst a million men could do is better than the worst that one man could do.
     
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    If wishes were horses, we'd all be up to our asses in horse poop.
     
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  9. BK613

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    Probably a fallacious assumption since there is nothing that guarantees the million are any more righteous than the one.
     
  10. JirinPanthosa

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    You saw how bad President Trump was. Imagine Emperor Trump. Basically Jaffrey Lannister if he did violence less directly.
     
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  11. BK613

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    And yet, 75 million people still voted for the huckster even after we saw how bad he was.
     
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  12. Commander Troi

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    Basically, sometimes people suck. :lol: The best we can do is always try to do better.
     
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  13. JirinPanthosa

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    Yeah. And even at his worst he wasn’t half as bad as Xi Pooh Bear or Putin.

    I guess you could argue it’s not democracy that prevents that so much as the checks and balances and decentralization of power. Strict majoritarianism would be just as bad.

    Even if you get a benevolent dictator, the benevolence only lasts as long as the dictator.
     
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  14. Aragorn

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    Those 75 million people are the Great Filter.
     
  15. BK613

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    @JirinPanthosa Exactly. And one of the most effective is decentralized control of elections in that the huge number of people that one would need to corrupt makes it hard
    I think that filter needs changing :guffaw:
     
  16. JD

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    The worst thing about this, is that there are a lot of people out there who still worship him, and will vote for him if he runs again in '24.
     
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  17. Aragorn

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    Well he's a blessing from God, so who are you to defy God's will? :guffaw:
     
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  18. BK613

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    "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Matthew 24:24 :guffaw:
     
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  19. Aragorn

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    What's scary is how these 75 million people would be in complete support for wearing masks and getting vaccinated if that had been Trump's message from the beginning. Talk about tribalism.

    Instead, some of them are literally dying for a figure who doesn't give a damn about them.
     
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  20. JirinPanthosa

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    I have a neighbor who is basically a good guy and even has a rainbow peace sign flag in front of his house. He told me that Trump genuinely cares about the American people, then said I was naive for believing scientific studies on COVID and vaccines after looking at their actual data set myself.
     
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