Come on those are flying death traps, theres only been a handful of instances when someone has used one and made it to their destination without issues.
Tech Mentioned In Episodes That Would Have Been Useful In Other Episodes
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Come on those are flying death traps, theres only been a handful of instances when someone has used one and made it to their destination without issues.
But they have their own transporters. In "Worst Case Scenario", all anyone had to do was use a shuttle transporter to beam Tuvok and Tom to safety.
Those Shuttlecraft transporters are barely any more realibale than shuttles themselves, take NEM for example they could have beamed over dozens of security to the Scimitar.
Or perhaps there is just some sort of anemsia bug that flares up often that causes people to forgot all the tech they have at their disposal.
The transporter trick that "vaporized" Sloan in "Inter Arma" could have been very useful in "Repentance".
1. Give Iko an improvised weapon like a knife or piece of glass.
2. Repeatedly warn him to put it down. He doesn't.
3. "Vaporize" him. Make sure the carnage is recorded.
4. Explain that "we're sorry, the prisoner was running amok and we had to kill him".
5. Take Iko somewhere safe, or add him to the crew.
1. Give Iko an improvised weapon like a knife or piece of glass.
2. Repeatedly warn him to put it down. He doesn't.
3. "Vaporize" him. Make sure the carnage is recorded.
4. Explain that "we're sorry, the prisoner was running amok and we had to kill him".
5. Take Iko somewhere safe, or add him to the crew.
Phaser Resistant Barrels / Containers.
The Polymer Materials used to resist Phasers / Directed Particle Energy weapons could've been useful for countless Yellow-Shirts in TNG.
Make a proper plate carrier rig and sput in some Polymer Plates that would've absorbed Phaser / Directed Particle Energy weapons fire.
Far better than just taking a shot like they normally do.
The Polymer Materials used to resist Phasers / Directed Particle Energy weapons could've been useful for countless Yellow-Shirts in TNG.
Make a proper plate carrier rig and sput in some Polymer Plates that would've absorbed Phaser / Directed Particle Energy weapons fire.
Far better than just taking a shot like they normally do.
TNG did that first in "Gambit, Part I". The Yridian said Picard was vaporized, but it was a transporter beam disguised as a disruptor blast.
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I love this thread!!! It's all too true!!
Didn't the cloak only cause problems because the Aldeans used it all the time and kept it on for generations?
If so, I think it would be alright to have those cloaks, but only use them in the direst of circumstances, such as when the Dominion or the Borg come a-knocking.
The power consumption to cloak an entire planet must be ridiculous.
...and is insignificant next to the power of the Force...
Are you really bringing in a Star Wars quote into this thread?
I would think that truly cloaking a planet is something that couldn't work. Not necessarily because of the power required an all of that...but simply because planets create gravity fields. I'd imagine that would be pretty easy to detect with sensitive, highly advanced 24th century sen-SORs.
They don't detect the gravity of starships, either. And ships have gravity utterly disproportionate to their mass, pulling with a full gee on every deck...
Phaserproof barrels, or wall paintings, or carpets, should be a thing, yes. We see in ST6 how the phasing effect is selective, taking the kettle but not the contents - but it always has been selective, taking the Klingon but not the ground beneath his feet or the air around him. Apparently, a setting optimized for removing X does not readily remove Y if X and Y are suitably different. And if a phaser optimized for taking a humanoid doesn't harm a decorative painting or a plastic barrel, even though a phaser optimized for taking a plastic barrel is perfectly capable of doing so... Layered armor ought to be doable. At least if the enemy doesn't know the composition of the compositing in advance, and adjust the setting accordingly.
Which may be why Klingons and Cardassians wear utterly useless armor. It demonstrably can't stop knives or sharp rocks or fists, but it works against death rays until the enemy finds the proper setting. And the Feds just happen to be distressingly good at this analysis thing...
As for the Klingon mind-sifter, it never worked. They used it on Spock until satisfied with results, and those results were false. They did not care whether Spock lived or died there. They thus apparently would never use it further than that, and never discover anything useful with it - but, also, never manage to ruin a mind with it.
Timo Saloniemi
Phaserproof barrels, or wall paintings, or carpets, should be a thing, yes. We see in ST6 how the phasing effect is selective, taking the kettle but not the contents - but it always has been selective, taking the Klingon but not the ground beneath his feet or the air around him. Apparently, a setting optimized for removing X does not readily remove Y if X and Y are suitably different. And if a phaser optimized for taking a humanoid doesn't harm a decorative painting or a plastic barrel, even though a phaser optimized for taking a plastic barrel is perfectly capable of doing so... Layered armor ought to be doable. At least if the enemy doesn't know the composition of the compositing in advance, and adjust the setting accordingly.
Which may be why Klingons and Cardassians wear utterly useless armor. It demonstrably can't stop knives or sharp rocks or fists, but it works against death rays until the enemy finds the proper setting. And the Feds just happen to be distressingly good at this analysis thing...
As for the Klingon mind-sifter, it never worked. They used it on Spock until satisfied with results, and those results were false. They did not care whether Spock lived or died there. They thus apparently would never use it further than that, and never discover anything useful with it - but, also, never manage to ruin a mind with it.
Timo Saloniemi
But I doubt you can detect that difference at ultra long range & space is VAST.
If the enemy can't see you, they have no reason to go to your neck of space and scan for the difference in gravity.
Don't forget that they have that giant repulsor bolt that can shove a ship several light years away.
That will create a lot of mystery / superstition amongst StarShip Captains traveling in that area of space and randomly gets shoved into another area.
Kinda like the Bermuda Triangle.
I meant that the Federation is barred cloaking technology. If they weren't, they'd have developed it decades ago.
Why not?
Considering they couldn't find Aldea until Aldea uncloaked, I guess the technology must mask that too.
Though I guess if the attacker has data on the way the planet orbits its sun, then they could probably still calculate where the planet would be when they attack (roughly, at least)
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