MLB 2021 season: Corn-Driven Humidity

[Timby]

So part of the owners proposal to the players has no service time, instead everyone waits till age 29.5 to be a free agent, you know when their best years are probably behind them.

That's gotta be DOA even more so then the salary floor/cap.

Oh, fuck off, Manfred.

"Hm, yes, we will draft players at age 18-19, straight out of high school and once they're on the 40-man, we will have ten years of control instead of the current six! This is surely a more equitable system and we are in no way telling you to eat shit!"

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Yankees radio announcers help each other out of the flooding. Linky

 

[BillJ]

Oh, fuck off, Manfred.

"Hm, yes, we will draft players at age 18-19, straight out of high school and once they're on the 40-man, we will have ten years of control instead of the current six! This is surely a more equitable system and we are in no way telling you to eat shit!"

The offer would have to be for a flat 25 or 26 for the players to take it seriously.

 

[Timby]

The offer would have to be for a flat 25 or 26 for the players to take it seriously.

"Offers" like this make it abundantly clear that the league is perfectly ready and eager to declare a lockout at 12:01 a.m. the moment the CBA expires in December. They're ready to go to the mattresses.

I wish I could say I have the same faith in the leadership of the MLBPA.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

"Offers" like this make it abundantly clear that the league is perfectly ready and eager to declare a lockout at 12:01 a.m. the moment the CBA expires in December. They're ready to go to the mattresses.

I wish I could say I have the same faith in the leadership of the MLBPA.

Aren't "offers" like this made only so the league can push through some lesser condition they really want anyway?

Like, was there some much less palatable thing they pushed in the last CBA that got them the service time deal in place now?


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[The Nth Doctor]

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Oh, man, that's rough. To drop a ball an easy infield pop fly in general is bad enough, but to do so that costs the game in the 11th inning is so much worse. I would had hate to be Difo right now.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Cubs manager David Ross and president of baseball ops Jed Hoyer test positive for COVID-19 (5 out of 5 eye-roll emojis agree this is idiotic)

 

[BillJ]

Nationals VP Bob Boone to resign over COVID vaccine mandate.

https://apnews.com/article/sports-m...mic-baseball-3d4133ed6941b174576a1e72f23d7707

Moron.

 

[Timby]

Aren't "offers" like this made only so the league can push through some lesser condition they really want anyway?

Like, was there some much less palatable thing they pushed in the last CBA that got them the service time deal in place now?

Well, it's common for the league to present some sort of outlandish, unacceptable proposition that's followed by some sort of minor gift to the union, so then the league can say it's making "concessions." Common practice in labor negotiations, but MLB has been incredibly good at its positioning with the public and the media with this tactic over the years; for example, when negotiating the shortened season last year with the union, the league kept on presenting essentially identical proposals only with different wording, and then Manfred went crying to the media about how the greedy players weren't giving anything up.

But the current service time rules have been in place and essentially identical since ... 1985, I think? With a few wrinkles here and there. It's just that teams have gotten much more brazen about gaming the service time rules.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Well, it's common for the league to present some sort of outlandish, unacceptable proposition that's followed by some sort of minor gift to the union, so then the league can say it's making "concessions." Common practice in labor negotiations, but MLB has been incredibly good at its positioning with the public and the media with this tactic over the years; for example, when negotiating the shortened season last year with the union, the league kept on presenting essentially identical proposals only with different wording, and then Manfred went crying to the media about how the greedy players weren't giving anything up.

But the current service time rules have been in place and essentially identical since ... 1985, I think? With a few wrinkles here and there. It's just that teams have gotten much more brazen about gaming the service time rules.

The service time thing was in place that long? Maybe I wasn't paying attention until Kris Bryant. I wonder if the Tribune ever used that rule.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

You're probably right. I know it's happened for someone else, though. Might have been when Trevor Hoffman was in his final year and some team played Hells Bells for him.

I just heard Edwin Diaz' walkup song (Narco) played in Nationals Park....

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Actually I take back what I just said about Narco. They weren't playing it for Diaz (at Nationals Park); apparently the entire Nats team uses it as a hype song. In this case it's got nothing to do with Diaz.

Does sort of beg the question, though...has the same song ever been used as a walkup/hype song by two different players or teams?

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Michael Kay was right about tonight's Jays/Yankees game...it truly is the Steve Trachsel invitational.

Hell, the game has been going on for over two hours, and they're only in the fifth inning!

 

[tomalak301]

This giants team is incredible. They don’t quit and what used to be unclutch in past seasons is clutch now. Lamont Wade Jr has been a revelation this year.

 

[Aragorn]

Showing once again that baseball is the king of stats, the Blue Jays swept the Yankees in a four-game series and it's the first time since 1924 (against the Washington Senators) that the Yankees never held the lead once in a series of four games or more.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

It's finally official: Trevor Bauer won't pitch for the rest of the season.

Took them long enough to make that call.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

It's finally official: Trevor Bauer won't pitch for the rest of the season.

Took them long enough to make that call.

Is he still getting paid? Not sure Castro is, or that Russell did, during their suspensions.

 

[BillJ]

Is he still getting paid?

I'm sure he is. They don't really have a reason yet to withhold his salary.

 

[BillJ]

Is he still getting paid?

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021...es-marcell-ozuna-on-administrative-leave.html

Players placed on administrative leave continue to be paid and to accumulate Major League service time.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021...es-marcell-ozuna-on-administrative-leave.html

As opposed to the aforementioned suspended Castro and Russell?

Typically uneven punishment system. I'd like for Landis to rise from his grave long enough to eat Manfred's brain, albeit a very small snack,