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It's not something that can be easily put to words and understood, it's more gutteral and feelings based.

You know how there are people who collect Action Figures or other toys?

Then there are those of us who collect Mecha, Machines in general.

And those are the things we collect, be it Motor Cycles, Cars, Aircraft, StarShips, etc.

And you understand how some people give their Swords a name, even a human name.

It's a different type of association with inanimate objects that we like.
I guess that's a broader definition of characters than I am willing to give. Ships can be dynamic, can be inspirational, but a character is someone I can see the perspective of.
 
I guess that's a broader definition of characters than I am willing to give. Ships can be dynamic, can be inspirational, but a character is someone I can see the perspective of.
So do we always need to give a vessel/vehicle a "AI Voice/Personality/Figure" like:
- 'KITT' from "Knight Rider"
- 'Gideon' from "D.C.'s Legends of Tomorrow"
- 'Rommie' from "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda"
- 'Canal Vorfeed' from "Lost Universe"
- 'Chamber' from "Suisei no Gargantia -> Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet"
for them to be a "character" to you?
 
So do we always need to give a vessel/vehicle a "AI Voice/Personality/Figure" like:
- 'KITT' from "Knight Rider"
- 'Gideon' from "D.C.'s Legends of Tomorrow"
- 'Rommie' from "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda"
- 'Canal Vorfeed' from "Lost Universe"
- 'Chamber' from "Suisei no Gargantia -> Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet"
for them to be a "character" to you?
No, but they do need character defining traits.
 
No, but they do need character defining traits.
Every vessel has it's own "Character Defining Traits" to us.

I don't see the Galaxy Class "USS Enterprise-D" in the same way that I see the Intrepid Class "USS Voyager" or the same way that I see the Defiant Class "USS Defiant".

Each one has it's own defining "Character Traits" on the outside and inside.
 
Every vessel has it's own "Character Defining Traits" to us.

I don't see the Galaxy Class "USS Enterprise-D" in the same way that I see the Intrepid Class "USS Voyager" or the same way that I see the Defiant Class "USS Defiant".

Each one has it's own defining "Character Traits" on the outside and inside.
And those would be?
 
And those would be?
Galaxy Class = Humongous, Large, Luxurious, Oppulant, Castle Like, powerful, regal.

Intrepid Class = Refined, Big (But not Humongous or Large), High Tech (for it's time), Efficient, Evolutionary, elegant

Defiant Class = Spartan, Compact, Efficient, Powerful for it's size, Muscular,
 
Galaxy Class = Humongous, Large, Luxurious, Oppulant, Castle Like, powerful, regal.

Intrepid Class = Refined, Big (But not Humongous or Large), High Tech (for it's time), Efficient, Evolutionary, elegant

Defiant Class = Spartan, Compact, Efficient, Powerful for it's size, Muscular,
Those are nice descriptors, but say nothing about character. It's a bit like say Kirk is in his mid-thirties, physically fit and has brown hair.
 
So do we always need to give a vessel/vehicle a "AI Voice/Personality/Figure" like:
- 'KITT' from "Knight Rider"
- 'Gideon' from "D.C.'s Legends of Tomorrow"
- 'Rommie' from "Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda"
- 'Canal Vorfeed' from "Lost Universe"
- 'Chamber' from "Suisei no Gargantia -> Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet"
for them to be a "character" to you?
That would help.
And apparently of the meaning of the word "character".
I think this is the core aspect is how do you define character. Character, for me, would include personality, history and emotions.

I suppose "character " could mean "distinctive characteristics " but I would not regard them like the speaking peoples.
 
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In ST Beyond Kirk is visibly upset when he sees his beloved ship crashing to the ground. I say the ship is a character.

The Galaxy Class Enterprise didn't have much character I mean it's computer wasn't even sassy /s
 
Janeway talked to the ship, Sisko said hello to the new ship... it was sad to see the D crash, or the DeLorean smashed to pieces, because they're not just background set pieces.
 
For what’s worth, I was sad when I had to let my first car go and probably will be when the current one goes: it’s a thing but it carried me around for years and I cared for her.
 
Janeway talked to the ship, Sisko said hello to the new ship... it was sad to see the D crash, or the DeLorean smashed to pieces, because they're not just background set pieces.
They are also not characters. People talk to inanimate objects all the time. Doesn't make them characters. Having emotions about an object doesn't make it a character.

It's such a weird thing.
 
It's just an odd place to draw the line, is all. Morn/Norm isn't a character - he's a prop and a running gag, even if played by an actor. So having a pulse or a spine or a salary isn't what makes the difference. Conversely, characters may remain off screen for the entire run of a series, and never get an actor assigned, yet have meaningful stories including dialogue. So the hurdles for accepting a vehicle as a character don't appear particularly high or pointy.

Timo Saloniemi
 
It's just an odd place to draw the line, is all. Morn/Norm isn't a character - he's a prop and a running gag, even if played by an actor. So having a pulse or a spine or a salary isn't what makes the difference. Conversely, characters may remain off screen for the entire run of a series, and never get an actor assigned, yet have meaningful stories including dialogue. So the hurdles for accepting a vehicle as a character don't appear particularly high or pointy.

Timo Saloniemi
That's not the question. But thanks for playing.
 
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