No way he'd do that he has honor
But would such a program run or would there be some ethical subroutine that blocks it unless given an override command?
I did not like how Reginald Barclay was treated in “The Nth Degree”
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No way he'd do that he has honor
But would such a program run or would there be some ethical subroutine that blocks it unless given an override command?
To my recollection, there's never been any mention of ethical content filtering, which also seems a little intrusive for them imho. Plus, I'd think if such a thing were in place, designing programs where you physically assault the ship's 1st officer in 10-Forward would probably fall under that. In fact, it's kind of a red flag that you might mean the real Riker harm, but that never became a problem for Barclay, until after everyone was scrutinizing his programs.
Which is why I postulated the safeties aspect. Surely the crew's physical safety wouldn't be the only concern for those parameters. If you were creating crew death match programs, where Beverly & Deanna gutted one another to death, that's not a healthy practice psychologically.
Which is why I postulated the safeties aspect. Surely the crew's physical safety wouldn't be the only concern for those parameters. If you were creating crew death match programs, where Beverly & Deanna gutted one another to death, that's not a healthy practice psychologically.
Or one where you play Criminal Minds as the unsub
I was shocked with all of them but I was really shocked that Geordi got in on it the most. What helped was that the Captain ended the whole Broccoli thing. They should have suggested Troi sooner if they were bright, I considered Geordi one of the nice ones. Being blind and friends with an awkward android but then Data doesn't have that human anxiety. He may not have been used to it. But then he eventually reached out to him first not counting Guinan but the crew. I felt they were much better with him in the later episodes.
I thought that was Wesley that started it.
That was an accident wasn't it? He seemed nervous about the situation.
I think people's personal holodeck programs would have no limits to them. Public programs probably have parameters. We know for example they can't access personal logs to make a holodeck characters. Also I am assuming medical files are off limits plus limits on seeing real people naked. If Barclay for example were to have sex with a hologram of Troi the program would just use a fake body image instead. This is assuming most holograms even are designed to a point were they have vaginas and penises. The EMH didn't even have one until he updated his program. The EMH was also modelled after a real person in Doctor Zimmerman.
I'm sure you could make a hologram anatomically correct just by adjusting its parameters, assuming it wasn't already. In "Fair Haven", the Doc asks Janeway if she and Michael Sullivan have been intimate. She doesn't provide an answer, but that he asked the question suggests that it's at least possible.
The EMH was designed for short term use, so making him capable of "relations" would be unnecessary.
The EMH was designed for short term use, so making him capable of "relations" would be unnecessary.
You're kidding right? Do you watch Star Trek?
Holodeck people are just as detailed as flesh and blood people. There's no censorship in regards to anatomical features.
We have seen many holographic recreations of real characters but we have never seen any of them naked. At least from a sanctioned hologram. I mean the holodeck I think has the ability but probably won't show a persons true form beyond what you would casually see from them. For something more detailed you probably need a custom made private program. Like the one Quark was trying to make of Kira for that Not Weyoum alien guy in season 3.
Well, they still would remember what happened in "hollow pursuits" and probably not take kindly to it.
Also, suddenly developing or acquiring godlike powers doesn't seem to sit well in Star Trek, not when it comes to the attitudes to whom it happens (Gary Mitchell and Elizabeth, Riker when he became a Q, Barclay), and not on how they are treated by their crewmates.
Also, suddenly developing or acquiring godlike powers doesn't seem to sit well in Star Trek, not when it comes to the attitudes to whom it happens (Gary Mitchell and Elizabeth, Riker when he became a Q, Barclay), and not on how they are treated by their crewmates.
As for whether the holodeck would snitch on you if you tried programming anything too sick, let's recall that Tuvok (after his mind-meld with Suder) ran a program where he killed a holo representation of Neelix with his bare hands.
Admittedly, as Security Chief, he may have authorisation to create holo-scenarios that would involve fighting other crew members, such as his Maquis rebellion one that Seska hacked.
And folk will argue Lower Decks doesn't count, but you'd REALLY think it would have reported Mariner for what she did in Veritas (blasting Shax into goo, stabbing other crew members...)
Admittedly, as Security Chief, he may have authorisation to create holo-scenarios that would involve fighting other crew members, such as his Maquis rebellion one that Seska hacked.
And folk will argue Lower Decks doesn't count, but you'd REALLY think it would have reported Mariner for what she did in Veritas (blasting Shax into goo, stabbing other crew members...)
I agree but let's not forget people just walked in without even knocking so that itself is a invasion of privacy. I mean the proper thing to do is to basically turn it off before entering someones program if you for whatever reason need to go inside against their wishes assuredly for a emergency or in the case of Starfleet perhaps some sort of dereliction of duties. Which is what was the case with Barclay. I don't buy that stuff Troi was saying about how shutting it off would be to much. That felt like a stretch created for drama.
I might agree about Geordi's 1st time coming in unannounced, but it is a public utility, which I don't remember him having to override a lock or anything, so he probably felt like it wasn't intruding necessarily.
The 2nd time when they come in as a group, it's kind of an intervention, & we now know where he is & what he's up to, when he should be at work, so I feel like them getting the whole truth is kind of in play at that point.
It's incredibly simple to do.
BARCLAY: "Computer, add subroutine to all Barclay holodeck programs. If any person other than myself enters the holodeck, end program immediately."
And while we're on the subject...
GEORDI: "Computer, if anyone runs my engine simulation other than myself, do not include Leah Brahms hologram."
BARCLAY: "Computer, add subroutine to all Barclay holodeck programs. If any person other than myself enters the holodeck, end program immediately."
And while we're on the subject...
GEORDI: "Computer, if anyone runs my engine simulation other than myself, do not include Leah Brahms hologram."
Veritas or Crisis Point?
Crisis Point, sorry. I got confused as we got a lot of the truth about Mariner's feelings in the latter.
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