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News Daniel Craig signs up for Bond 25, Christopher Nolan in talks to direct
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Is there anything anyone is looking forward to in No Time to Die?
I'm just looking forward to seeing a new Bond film. I'm a big 007 fan.
I'm not sure what to expect from this film yet. Of the Craig films, Skyfall was probably my favorite. I liked Spectre mostly, but I didn't like how SPECTRE had become an international criminal organization interested in its own ends and only targeting Bond when he kept foiling their plans, to an organization who's primary purpose was Blofeld's revenge on Bond. And then the ridiculous attempt to link the previous Craig films together by making Quantum a subsidiary of Spectre (since when does a criminal organization have subsidiaries--are they worried about taxes or something
) and linking Silva with all that was even more of a stretch because his was a personal vendetta. But we'll see. I'd love to see a standalone Bond film where he's just on a mission and it's not some personal quest.
That’s not what happened. Blofeld never targeted Bond for revenge until AFTER he blew up his base in the meteor crater.
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This.
To elaborate, I'd like to see a movie where Bond is an established professional agent at the peak of his game, and M calls him into his office and assigns him a mission that has fuck-all to do with Bond's personal history or his wounded and weeping inner child.* Bond goes after the bad guy, cracks some wise, has some sex, blows some shit up, then has some more sex. JAMES BOND WILL RETURN.
* Bond does not actually have one of these.
Yeah. The occasional personal quest is fine. But I'd love to see Craig do an old fashioned mission story.
We'll see if this one will deliver. From what I read 007 comes back to action to help Felix so maybe this one will not be something personal to Bond or his history.
All indications is that this mission is more connected to Swann's past rather than Bond's.
As for what I look forward to in NTTD, one is definitely the main titles. I've loved all of Kleinman's work, especially since CR.
As for what I look forward to in NTTD, one is definitely the main titles. I've loved all of Kleinman's work, especially since CR.
The issue I see with this is that now that a character arc has been established, a stand alone movie or tv episode that has nothing to do with anything besides the mission at hand, is that in this day and age, that kind of thing is seen as a "throw away" or filler movie/episode by many people.
Unlike the times where movie goers/tv audiences didn't invest in the character building, episode to episode, people today expect everything to be connected. Even a show like the Fugitive didn't really build on anything. It was just Kimble going from place to place doing stuff. Bond flirted with this when Lazenby took over. There was an attempt to develop the character and give him dimension. His fear during the crowd chase scene and falling in love were big steps. Then Moore took over (after Connery slept through DaF) and we were back to 1-dimension Bond.
Obviously just my opinion, of course.
Connery didn't sleep through DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER. I never understood where some people get that impression, because he actually looks like he's engaged in a way he hadn't been since THUNDERBALL. If there's any Bond film where Connery looks bored, it's in YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE, especially if it's ADR.
Well, one-dimensional Bond (or whatever you want to call it) simply works better in the long run. I liked OHMSS, but was it a type of storytelling that could keep going for decades? I wouldn't say so. This for me was the problem with the Craig era. They did more of an OHMSS type story because this was supposed to be a kind of prequelreboot/whatever. Showing Bond being more vulnerable than he generally is worked because it built to an ending where he wasnt vulnerable. That should have been it. End of character arc. Instead they just kept going back to do the same sort of thing again and again.
At this point a '1-dimension Bond' might be a good thing. Even if people need things to be connected, which I'm not sure they do, that doesn't mean having to go quite as deeply into character development with Bond himself. He worked well being the same at the start and end of each movie.
Which was also part of the lore explored in the more recent movies. Bond as a “blunt instrument.” But Craig’s Bond was tryng to rise above that… With varying levels of success. Good point!
The film landscape has changed so much in the 21st century when it comes to film series with interconnected films, and Bond has clearly adapted to that model. I strongly expect Craig’s Bond to have a definitive conclusion, and that the next actor is basically a reboot, much like how Ben Affleck Batman was after Christian Bale Batman got his conclusion.
Just imagine if Iron Man just started as a stand-alone film with no origin story, just Tony Stark already established as Iron Man, and that the final film is just Downey Jr in another standalone film with zero conclusion to it. That’s just NOT where film series are anymore. And just because we can remember the old days when it was like that for Bond doesn’t mean that’s how it’ll ever be unless stand-alone films become a thing again.
Just imagine if Iron Man just started as a stand-alone film with no origin story, just Tony Stark already established as Iron Man, and that the final film is just Downey Jr in another standalone film with zero conclusion to it. That’s just NOT where film series are anymore. And just because we can remember the old days when it was like that for Bond doesn’t mean that’s how it’ll ever be unless stand-alone films become a thing again.
Which film series outside the MCU has really made their approach work?