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Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x03 - "We'll Always Have Tom Paris"

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It wasn’t Freecloud. It was the planet from Redemption part 2. Where Riker meets the fat Ferengi.
The other planet is the planet Picard last his heart to the Nsusiccans in Tapestry

Yep, the former is Qualor II, home of the Zakdorn depot.
 
Bernd over at EAS is claiming his site popularized the use of VOY to abbreviate Voyager.

Kind of a sad "flex"

I was posting on the defunct Psi Phi boards in 1996 and we called it VOY all the time. I don't remember if EAS was around back then. I know the Star Trek Chronology and Star Trek Encyclopedia called it VGR, but no one else did, from what I remember or saw. But let him take all the credit he wants if that's what gets him through the day. ;)

EAS went up in 1998 according to it's info section on the site.......I'm sure he started it at Psi Phi too :guffaw:
 
VOY has always been an obvious way to abbreviate the title. Here it is in a newsgroup discussion from 1994, which was popular enough back then in relation to the written context where such abbreviations are relevant. I think EAS had more of hand in DIS (along with MA) and also TOS-R (with the hyphen), though I prefer TOS-SE since far too many people confuse remastering with VFX replacement and other changes that go beyond creating a new master.
 
VOY has always been an obvious way to abbreviate the title. Here it is in a newsgroup discussion from 1994, which was popular enough back then in relation to the written context where such abbreviations are relevant. I think EAS had more of hand in DIS (along with MA) and also TOS-R (with the hyphen), though I prefer TOS-SE since far too many people confuse remastering with VFX replacement and other changes that go beyond creating a new master.
Um...TOS-SE could also refer the the Sci-Fi Channel's Star Trek - Special Edition where they presented the episodes uncut, and with a ton of cast interviews interspaced so the running time was 90 minutes for one episode. This was in the late 90s a few years before the TOS-R HD replaced VFX remasters don circa 2004.
 
Yeah gave it a 5, really wasn't a fan of this one. Had some ok laughs, but overall it felt really disjointed like it was 3 different episodes crammed into one. The Tom Paris cameo was a real waste as well.
 
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I was posting on the defunct Psi Phi boards in 1996 and we called it VOY all the time. I don't remember if EAS was around back then. I know the Star Trek Chronology and Star Trek Encyclopedia called it VGR, but no one else did, from what I remember or saw. But let him take all the credit he wants if that's what gets him through the day. ;)

I actually remember having a fight with one of my friends in highschool about whether VGR or VOY was the right and therefore canon abbreviation. I was on the side of VGR and he on the side of VOY. It got so heated that we didn't speak to each other for three days. We were such a little idiots.
 
Um...TOS-SE could also refer the the Sci-Fi Channel's Star Trek - Special Edition where they presented the episodes uncut, and with a ton of cast interviews interspaced so the running time was 90 minutes for one episode.

Yes, but who recalls that it was designated a Special Edition, assuming they remember that release at all and find it makes sense for anyone in 2021 to reference it without pointing to a behind-the-scenes interview and mentioning “Sci-Fi Channel / Sci Fi / Syfy” somewhere? A Star Wars association is much more likely, but I suppose we could also go with TOS-40 (for the anniversary when it went on the air).
 
VOY has always been an obvious way to abbreviate the title. Here it is in a newsgroup discussion from 1994, which was popular enough back then in relation to the written context where such abbreviations are relevant. I think EAS had more of hand in DIS (along with MA) and also TOS-R (with the hyphen), though I prefer TOS-SE since far too many people confuse remastering with VFX replacement and other changes that go beyond creating a new master.

When talking about Trek "VGR" makes a bit more sense as an "abbreviation" because of, well, the reference.
 
Two ways to go with it:

1. Mariner was a Wesley Crusher-esque teenage Starfleet candidate, which would be HILARIOUS.

2. Mariner is about 30.

I believe that Mariner is older than the rest of them. "That's the best part of ensigns, man. I keep gettin' older but they stay the same age. Alright, alright, alright." Boimler just doesn't actually know.

But it might not be so strange if she was a Crusher-esqe wiz-kid that burned out during the Dominion War. Her line about not opening up because friends get promoted away might refer to all of the quick promotions of young officers like Nog during the war. It also may be her way to soften saying she has a lot of dead friends too.
 
But Tawny Newsome is 38 and the characters were reportedly cast so they could be played by their voice actors in live action, meaning we can’t have a serious age discrepancy. Jack Quaid is 29.
 
We will need some clarification on how old Mariner is. Boilmer said she was the same age as him which is obviously a lie.

Lie is a bit much, considering the definition means intend to deceive. More likely Boimler was mistaken and perhaps is terrible at guessing some people's ages.

Patrick Stewart played a much older Picard during TNG. Between medical advances and a good skin care regime, Mariner might have a great complexion
 
But Tawny Newsome is 38 and the characters were reportedly cast so they could be played by their voice actors in live action, meaning we can’t have a serious age discrepancy. Jack Quaid is 29.
But that's still a discrepancy, Jack Quaid is 29 while Boimler is 24. As for the others, Noel Wells is 34 while Tendi is presumably in her early 20s. I can't find out how old Eugene Cordero is, but based on the fact he's been playing adult characters since 1998 according to IMDB, I'm guessing he's also older than the early 20s that Rutherford presumably is.
 
Interesting. IMDB has him listed as "Man in Audience" in 1998, which means he would have been 12 and not really a "man."
Really? Where was that reported? I wonder if that means we'll see them show up in another show or something
I don't think it's ever been stated they were cast specifically so they could play the characters in a potential live action version, though everyone has commented that were a live action version ever to happen, the voice actors do resemble the characters enough that it could work to use them.
 
Really? Where was that reported? I wonder if that means we'll see them show up in another show or something

Or one or two live-action episodes of LD.

Didn't most of the cast over social media half-jokingly agree to appear in character at a convention next year? I doubt it will happen, but it would be cool if they were able to make one of those in costume cast photos like they have for the other series'.
 
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