Donny’s Late TOS Movie Era Interiors
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Same. I thought we were suddenly on the topic of Hank the Deuce and the '60 Ford Falcon.And it tool m a second to realize you meant Harrison Ford there.
Got (most of) the helm graphics generated and in place over the last couple of nights.
Twas a little challenging due to the lack of clear shots for some of areas of the panels, but there were only a few "guesses" I had to make. Particularly the details surrounding the two top-down views of the Enterprise on the main board, and the details of the astrogator control panel. If anyone has any knowledge of what those two graphics are in detail, please send them my way!
For this project, I'm obviously sticking to screen accuracy as far as CRT monitors go. They're just so overt across the 3 films covering this era (TFF, TUC, and GEN) that I feel they must be included. Coming off the Enterprise-E bridge in which I omitted the CRT monitors and liked the results, I originally started this project thinking I'd omit them here as well. But once I got the consoles in sans monitors, and applied graphics to them, they just looked....wrong. Or maybe they just looked more right when I added them back in. Anyway, I like the way they look even if it triggers some Trekkies out there, but it's my build and I'm sticking to it
I bring that up because of the TFF astrogator: there's an obvious CRT monitor behind a circular opening in it, whereas in the next film the monitor is gone, amongst other changes to the astrogator's shape.
We even see the same circular opening in Yesterday's Enterprise, which was filmed after TFF but before TUC. Here it doesn't look like a CRT, but it just may be covered up here. I'm pretty sure the one installed in TFF was a CRT...because what else would they have used if not a CRT? Rear-projection?
I originally though "nah, I'll leave the monitor off this one". And I tried that too. But again, it looked wrong. I added it in and all the sudden it looked right again. So I'm sticking with it.
However, it begs the question of what I should display on this round monitor. The two brief glimpses we see of it in TFF, the random "Great Barrier Energy Swirl" pattern is playing on it. We never see what the default state of this monitor is. I have a few ideas:
1) A top-down diagram of the ship, as we see in TUC:
2) Bring back a star chart, harkening back to its earlier TMP-TSFS appearance (but without the dome and green plant-ons):
3) A combination of the two, much like this graphic, but turned so the ship diagram is facing upwards (which, after sharing this idea with @Rekkert, he informed me he did the same thing on his Enterprise-C bridge
):
I'm leaning towards 2 or 3. But want everyone's thoughts.
Twas a little challenging due to the lack of clear shots for some of areas of the panels, but there were only a few "guesses" I had to make. Particularly the details surrounding the two top-down views of the Enterprise on the main board, and the details of the astrogator control panel. If anyone has any knowledge of what those two graphics are in detail, please send them my way!
For this project, I'm obviously sticking to screen accuracy as far as CRT monitors go. They're just so overt across the 3 films covering this era (TFF, TUC, and GEN) that I feel they must be included. Coming off the Enterprise-E bridge in which I omitted the CRT monitors and liked the results, I originally started this project thinking I'd omit them here as well. But once I got the consoles in sans monitors, and applied graphics to them, they just looked....wrong. Or maybe they just looked more right when I added them back in. Anyway, I like the way they look even if it triggers some Trekkies out there, but it's my build and I'm sticking to it
I bring that up because of the TFF astrogator: there's an obvious CRT monitor behind a circular opening in it, whereas in the next film the monitor is gone, amongst other changes to the astrogator's shape.
We even see the same circular opening in Yesterday's Enterprise, which was filmed after TFF but before TUC. Here it doesn't look like a CRT, but it just may be covered up here. I'm pretty sure the one installed in TFF was a CRT...because what else would they have used if not a CRT? Rear-projection?
I originally though "nah, I'll leave the monitor off this one". And I tried that too. But again, it looked wrong. I added it in and all the sudden it looked right again. So I'm sticking with it.
However, it begs the question of what I should display on this round monitor. The two brief glimpses we see of it in TFF, the random "Great Barrier Energy Swirl" pattern is playing on it. We never see what the default state of this monitor is. I have a few ideas:
1) A top-down diagram of the ship, as we see in TUC:
2) Bring back a star chart, harkening back to its earlier TMP-TSFS appearance (but without the dome and green plant-ons):
3) A combination of the two, much like this graphic, but turned so the ship diagram is facing upwards (which, after sharing this idea with @Rekkert, he informed me he did the same thing on his Enterprise-C bridge
):I'm leaning towards 2 or 3. But want everyone's thoughts.
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I kind of like the third option, it combines aspects of 1 and 2 but allows you to maybe tinker with some motion graphics since it's meant to be displayed on a CRT. I wonder if Mike Okuda actually put together graphics for that display beyond the blue swirly God Planet stuff?
I've got a vague memory of seeing the astrogator from TFF showing the top-side schematic of the ship in a photo at some point in the past, but I could be misremembering. But, I like the idea of going with option 3 since it presents a multi-purpose informational display for helm/nav and the Captain.
He must've. I can't imagine him not! I'm supposed to be on a call regarding the Roddenberry Archive on Saturday, which may give me a chance to ask him
Yes I did! I have a habit of checking my email when I'm still half asleep in the mornings and then forget to follow up when I'm awake. Thank you!
I like option 3. If it is a CRT monitor in there I can't imagine that they'd have gone too far from the other bridge diagrams
I'm supposed to be on a call regarding the Roddenberry Archive on Saturday, which may give me a chance to ask him
Donny, are they not doing anything post TNG because that was after Gene's death? I was just wondering if they were going to want to do sets from the later series, or not.
Swoon, I mean, wow, I can practically feel the haptic feedback. Geat work, Donny.
However, it begs the question of what I should display on this round monitor. The two brief glimpses we see of it in TFF, the random "Great Barrier Energy Swirl" pattern is playing on it. We never see what the default state of this monitor is. I have a few ideas:
1) A top-down diagram of the ship, as we see in TUC:
2) Bring back a star chart, harkening back to its earlier TMP-TSFS appearance (but without the dome and green plant-ons):
3) A combination of the two, much like this graphic, but turned so the ship diagram is facing upwards (which, after sharing this idea with @Rekkert, he informed me he did the same thing on his Enterprise-C bridge
I'm leaning towards 2 or 3. But want everyone's thoughts.
I'm gonna be awkward, sorry: 3 when she's at warp, and 1 when she's at rest. 3 makes sense as a navigation aid, but I'd imagine shipboard information would be more useful at rest.
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I do wish they'd done a better job covering up the Philips head screws. Not that I've seen them they stick out in every screenshot. >_<
I don't know. I'm not heavily involved in the project yet, but I should know more after joining one of their conference calls.
I prefer option #2. Bring back the starchart. Or do an Okudagram version of the TOS astrogator? Especially since the TFF bridge is the closest movie bridge to the original.
You're gonna be mad at me once I do my screw pass....
In all honesty, I may leave the TFF bridge without screws. But the TUC bridge will definitely have them. They were used all over the bridge to the point I believe it was intentional to ground it more in reality.
Good idea. I'll throw that around in my noggin.
You're gonna be mad at me once I do my screw pass....
In all honesty, I may leave the TFF bridge without screws. But the TUC bridge will definitely have them. They were used all over the bridge to the point I believe it was intentional to ground it more in reality.
Good idea. I'll throw that around in my noggin.
It could very well be why. I just never noticed them before and there they are right on the helm. BLECH.
