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Garak was annoying and a little bit irritating. Even when he was right he was still a morally questionable person whose motives I never fully trusted. His popularity baffles me to this day.
 
"First Contact" is a better movie than "Wrath of Khan." It's much more interesting when your hero is on a revenge kick rather than the villain.
 
The point of the character was to be morally questionable, a counterpoint to these paragons of virtue in Starfleet.

Kor
Yes, but that wasn't my question. My larger confusion is his popularity that continues on, to the point of interest in a Garak led TV show. That has no appeal to me. I don't like the character, and that might have been the point of him. But, his popularity is more baffling.
 
Are you making a joke or being dumb?
Neither. I'm asking a genuine question that when the character was conceived he was to be popular due to his moral ambiguity. I understand his purpose in the larger show; I'm baffled by his popularity.
 
You might be the only one besides me who doesn't love Garak?
Usually everybody are all over him, I think he is annoying.

He took some time to grow on me, because I had issues with so many of his episodes. From "Cardassians", and the notion that a person's bloodline matters more than his happiness or those who love him, to "Afterimage", and the notion of DS9 having a counselor who was more neurotic than her patients (cruel as Garak's words to Ezri were, they were also pretty much true)... they just didn't really do it.

The point of the character was to be morally questionable, a counterpoint to these paragons of virtue in Starfleet.

Kor

And that was why he grew on me. Garak was very good at being what he was: merciless, morally ambiguous, and very dangerous. And strangely, despite my general lack of wokeness, I like him even better knowing about his feelings regarding Bashir. It added yet another layer to arguably the second most complex character in the series.
 
I like him even better knowing about his feelings regarding Bashir. It added yet another layer to arguably the second most complex character in the series.

What feelings are you referring to? Sadly, due no doubt to 90s Trek's general homophobia, Garak is canonically straight.
 
Yes, but that wasn't my question. My larger confusion is his popularity that continues on, to the point of interest in a Garak led TV show. That has no appeal to me. I don't like the character, and that might have been the point of him. But, his popularity is more baffling.

A lot of it came down to Andy Robinson's superlative acting, but the appeal of Garak is there was subtext to everything. I'm not just talking about his flirting with Bashir early on - everything he said had a surface meaning and an undertext.
 
A lot of it came down to Andy Robinson's superlative acting, but the appeal of Garak is there was subtext to everything. I'm not just talking about his flirting with Bashir early on - everything he said had a surface meaning and an undertext.

Andrew Robinson himself said that Garak was supposed to be an openly gay character but somewhere along the way the powers that be chickened out.
 
A lot of it came down to Andy Robinson's superlative acting, but the appeal of Garak is there was subtext to everything. I'm not just talking about his flirting with Bashir early on - everything he said had a surface meaning and an undertext.
That's a fair point I suppose. It's a credit to Robinson's acting that I find Garak completely insufferable and roll my eyes every time he shows up.
 
What feelings are you referring to? Sadly, due no doubt to 90s Trek's general homophobia, Garak is canonically straight.

And if you prefer to envision him that way, that's entirely fine.

Andrew Robinson himself said that Garak was supposed to be an openly gay character but somewhere along the way the powers that be chickened out.

I knew that Robinson played him that way; I don't recall reading anything about it being planned
 
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