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That 1963 Flip-Top Flip-Phone... FACT TREK

"Court Martial" implied that everything aboard ship was always being recorded in both audio and visual for the computer log. It was recording even before Kirk ordered yellow alert. It would seem reasonable that a primary purpose of the landing party yeoman would be to extend that bubble in which everything is being recorded so that it encloses the landing party too.
 
And Star Trek III backs up this concept, though it's conveniently ignored far more often than it's used.
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And I just noticed that the trial board for mutiny must consist of no fewer than three officers of command grade.

I suppose that would be an appealable issue.
 
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And I just noticed that the trial board for mutiny must consist of no fewer than three officers of command grade.

I suppose that would be an appealable issue.
Yes - except the sentence handed down by Lester as Kirk was execution <--- Which ultimately and rightly lead the ship's crew to mutiny to not carry out said sentence. The intersting thing is - there was no physical evidence that Kirk and Lester had switched but I guess the Starfleet review board bought the whole story, because next week everything and everyone on the ship was still on duty... ;)
 
I suspect they dropped the Yeomen because they rarely did anything and it's another actor you have to pay. The only reason we kept seeing them after Rand disappeared was because scripts were already in development with her in mind so they just changed the name and actor. By the second season they're basically gone.
 
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The intersting thing is - there was no physical evidence that Kirk and Lester had switched but I guess the Starfleet review board bought the whole story, because next week everything and everyone on the ship was still on duty... ;)

Was your wink because of a lack of consequences due to weekly TV/reruns, or the fact that there was no "next week" since that was the last episode?
 
Was your wink because of a lack of consequences due to weekly TV/reruns, or the fact that there was no "next week" since that was the last episode?

Well, the last episode until "Beyond the Farthest Star," but the "week" between them was four and a quarter years long...
 
Was your wink because of a lack of consequences due to weekly TV/reruns, or the fact that there was no "next week" since that was the last episode?
The latter - but you did have a 'next week' - it was a rerun of course - but back then in the pre-VCR days, if it was an episode you had missed months earlier...:whistle:
 
"Court Martial" implied that everything aboard ship was always being recorded in both audio and visual for the computer log. It was recording even before Kirk ordered yellow alert. It would seem reasonable that a primary purpose of the landing party yeoman would be to extend that bubble in which everything is being recorded so that it encloses the landing party too.

And Star Trek III backs up this concept, though it's conveniently ignored far more often than it's used.

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And I just noticed that the trial board for mutiny must consist of no fewer than three officers of command grade.

I suppose that would be an appealable issue.[/QUOTE]

And of course there is a episode which short of contrdicts those episodes.

In "Menagerie Part 1" Spock begins to show videos of the Enterprise receiving a message from Talos IV in "The Cage" when:

KIRK: Screen off. Chris, was that really you on the screen? (flash) That's impossible. Mister Spock, no vessel makes record tapes in that detail, that perfect. What were we watching?
SPOCK: I cannot tell you at this time, sir.
MENDEZ: Captain Pike, were any record tapes of this nature made during your voyage? (flash, flash) The court is not obliged to view evidence without knowing its source.
SPOCK: Unless the court asks a prisoner why, Commodore. You did ask that question.
MENDEZ: You mean I was maneuvered into asking. Your evidence is out of order.
KIRK: I am forced to contest that, Commodore. I want to see more.
MENDEZ: You have that right, Captain, but just because the prisoner is your First Officer and your personal friend
KIRK: That has nothing to do with it.
MENDEZ: Very well, continue.
KIRK: Screen on, Mister Scott.

Kirk says that in the era of TOS no vessel makes record tapes in that detail, and asks Pike if the Enterprise made record tapes like that 18 years earlier..

I think that scene would have been far more plausible if the scene on the bridge played in full and we saw the private conversation between Pike and Boyce in PIke's quarters before Kirk asked that question. That would imply that Kirk found making record tapes in someone's private quarters to be the unusual feature of the images shown.

And it woudld also show that Starfleet in the era of TOS doesn't make records of events in private quarters of Starfleet personnel. Because Kirk didn't object during that scene, we have no way of knowing whether Starfleet records events in people's private quarters in the era of TOS.

Since Kirk wondered during the first scene on the Enteprise bridge, we have to wonder what Kirk found unusual in the first bridge scene and not about what Kirk might have found unusual in later scenes but didn't comment about.

Of course that scene was a clip from "The Cage", shot and edited like the movie or television scene that it actually was. Thus it looked a lot different from what we would expect record tapes shot on the bridge to look like.

How does that short segement of the bridge scene compare with the record tapes from the bridge seen in "Court Martial"? A side by side comparison to show what the Cage/Menagerie scene had that the "Court Martial" scene didn't would be helpful.

"Court Martial" was the 15th episode of TOS produced, while "The Menagerie Part 1" was the 16th episode produced.

The various stages of the story outline and script for "Court Martial" are dated between 3 May and 3 October, 1966, and the episode was filmed on 3 to 11 October, 1966.

The various stages of the script for "The Menagerie Part 1" are dated from 12 August to 17 October, 1966, and the episode was filmed from 11 Ocotober to 18 October, 1966.

So the two episodes were in simultaneous preproduction for a couple of months, and were filmed back to back, with "The Menagerie Part 1" starting to film on the same day that "Court Martial" stopped filming.. The Bridge scenses in "Court Martial" were filmed on October 5 & 6, and the courtroom scenes on October 7, 10 & 11. The court martial scenes in the briefing room in "The Menagerie Part 1" were filmed on October 13, 14, 17, & 18.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Court_Martial_(episode)#Production_timeline

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Menagerie,_Part_I_(episode)#Production_timeline

Possibly Star Trek historians could point out the earliest moment in time when someone could have noticed the seeming contradicition between "Court Martial" and "The Menagerie Part 1" and perhaps discuss wherther anyone brought that up and what sort of discussuion the staff might have made on the subject.

Since I claim that most episodic televiison shows have episodes happeing in different alternate universes, separate from the others, "The Menagerie Part 1" could happen in an alternate universe where starships don't make record tapes that detailed, while "Court Martial" could happen in an alternate universe where starships - or posisbly only the Enterprise in a trial program - do make record tapes that detailed.

Or possibly there is sufficient difference in style between the bridge scenes in the two episodes for Krk to see a big difference in just a minute or two.
 
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And I just noticed that the trial board for mutiny must consist of no fewer than three officers of command grade.

I suppose that would be an appealable issue.

Nevermind appeals, it should never have gone as far as it did. The moment faux-Kirk ignores the votes of McCoy and Scotty, and announces his plans for an ad hoc group execution, the ranking Security guy should have said, "Mr. Spock, Captain Kirk is in clear violation of the Uniform Code of Starfleet Justice. Are you assuming command?"

And Spock would say, "Yes, Lieutenant. Please place Captain Kirk under arrest and confine him under guard to the Ward in Sickbay."

But of course, the show couldn't let a non-regular nobody solve a problem.
 
Nevermind appeals, it should never have gone as far as it did. The moment faux-Kirk ignores the votes of McCoy and Scotty, and announces his plans for an ad hoc group execution, the ranking Security guy should have said, "Mr. Spock, Captain Kirk is in clear violation of the Uniform Code of Starfleet Justice. Are you assuming command?"

And Spock would say, "Yes, Lieutenant. Please place Captain Kirk under arrest and confine him under guard to the Ward in Sickbay."

But of course, the show couldn't let a non-regular nobody solve a problem.
A non-regular nobody wouldn't have to. Scotty could have said it. Or Spock could have said it and had Scotty and Bones back him up with the security guys silently stepping forward. Security in this episode is painted very badly, blindly following the most grotesque orders simply because Kirk is in charge.
 
Oh, that is a lovely little phone! On the one hand, it looks way too modern for the '60s (heck, it looks like a computer mouse when shut), but at the same time, it looks exactly like something you'd see in a '60s sci-fi movie set in the future.
 
Was your wink because of a lack of consequences due to weekly TV/reruns, or the fact that there was no "next week" since that was the last episode?
If you go by Stardate Order, then the next episode is All Our Yesterdays, which many think was a better last episode for the series.
 
Yes - except the sentence handed down by Lester as Kirk was execution <--- Which ultimately and rightly lead the ship's crew to mutiny to not carry out said sentence. The intersting thing is - there was no physical evidence that Kirk and Lester had switched but I guess the Starfleet review board bought the whole story, because next week everything and everyone on the ship was still on duty... ;)

Why would there be a review once Kirk was back in his body?
 
Why would there be a review once Kirk was back in his body?

Why wouldn't there be? Charges of mutiny were placed on the record and a court-martial proceeding was called. All of that would be logged and documented, and it would need to be accounted for.
 
Why would there be a review once Kirk was back in his body?

If it were the Navy, first you'd have to prove somehow that the Captain's body was hijacked by a crazy woman, so he wasn't to blame for the unlawful orders she gave. Then you'd have to prove somehow that the switch had been reversed. The authorities would be like, "The first switch sounds highly improbable, and the second sounds awfully convenient. You need a lawyer, Captain."

And if you did prove both things, the Navy would still be inclined to give Kirk a desk job at best.

Of course, the Navy would also have put Kirk on trial for for "The Enemy Within", "Mirror, Mirror", "Requiem for Methuselah", and "The Way to Eden." And probably for "I, Mudd", "Space Seed", and "Day of the Dove." And he wouldn't get his job back after "The Paradise Syndrome" automatically, if ever.
 
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