News Star Trek IV Remastered Coming To Theaters Next Month

[Doug Otte]

I saw TVH twice in 1986. I might go see it again next month. I haven't been in a movie theater for a long time. The last time was when I saw TMP during its recent tour (it was my first time seeing it in a theater, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, Peach!). When was that - 2019?

 

[Therin of Andor]

Any chance of Paramount adding back Shatner's narrated Captain's Log prologue that featured on the International Prints?

We did not see that prologue in theatres Down Under until the first home video release. It wasn't on our cinema prints.

The prologue was created for European theatres because ST III had had such a limited theatrical run in places, ie. not at all in some European countries, although they knew ST II. Even the ST IV posters said "The Voyage Home", with "Star Trek IV" as a small subtitle.

When it went to video, Australasia used the UK master and approved liner notes, as per usual, and the prologue came with it.

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[Peach Wookiee]

I saw TVH twice in 1986. I might go see it again next month. I haven't been in a movie theater for a long time. The last time was when I saw TMP during its recent tour (it was my first time seeing it in a theater, and I thoroughly enjoyed it, Peach!). When was that - 2019?

I think it was. There was just something about seeing it on the big screen... That, and I was trying to confirm if my biological mother saw it while pregnant with me...

 

[Doug Otte]

I think it was. There was just something about seeing it on the big screen... That, and I was trying to confirm if my biological mother saw it while pregnant with me...

Did watching it on the big screen confirm it?

 

[Peach Wookiee]

Did watching it on the big screen confirm it?

Somewhat. I suppose I'll never know for certain, as I've never met either of my biological parents. But I really do think she, at least, may have gone to see TMP.

 

[Damian]

Obviously that can't be true.

What's your game, sister?

Hey now. Watch what you say about my favorite Trek film



TVH was the first Star Trek movie I saw in the theater after becoming a Trekkie (which was when I saw TMP on VHS for the first time--yep, it was TMP that brought me in the fold).

I had seen TSFS originally when it came out in the theater, but I was 9 at the time and that was my pre-Trekkie days so I only vaguely remember that one in the theater. But I do remember seeing TVH on the big screen for the first time and it was a lot of fun.

I also found TVH a very good Star Trek film. It's not in the upper echelon like TMP, TWOK, or First Contact are (at least for me). But I'd put it in the next tier of Trek films....very good but not cream of the crop.

I always thought TVH was a needed reprieve. After the headier TWOK and TSFS it was a great 'just have fun' kind of Star Trek film. It still handled serious topics, but in a way that allowed the cast to relax a bit and let their hair down. I think the films needed that by that point. Star Trek always had those little fun moments thrown in. So why not a movie too?

I'll probably end up going to see this again in the theater as well.

 

[1001001]

Bought our tickets today. Should be a lot of fun.

 

[Grizzlor]

I will never pay for one of these Fandango things again. Last few I did several years ago, the AV presentation was horrible.

 

[Bad Robot]

I will never pay for one of these Fandango things again. Last few I did several years ago, the AV presentation was horrible.

The ST movies are pretty much guaranteed an authentic presentation. Both TWOK and TMP were given the proper 4k treatment (not to be confused with UHD specs, but the theatrical 4k expected of most modern movies) when booked through Fathom.

 

[Indysolo]

I don't think it's a matter of the quality of the master shown, but a tech issue with Fathom. I've had numerous issues with their presentations, whether it's not starting on time or there's no sound or some other tech issue.

Add in a surging Delta variant and this is an easy pass for me.

 

[David cgc]

I don't think it's a matter of the quality of the master shown, but a tech issue with Fathom. I've had numerous issues with their presentations, whether it's not starting on time or there's no sound or some other tech issue.

I went to see a Doctor Who special once, and they accidentally put on Dr. Strange. Believe me, staying awake through a six-episode serial from the mid-sixties starting at 9 PM is not made easier by it starting 45 minutes late because we didn't realize something was wrong until the trailers were finished.

Though that was more the theater's issue than Fathom's fault. Oh, Sad Mall, how I don't miss you.

 

[Bad Robot]

It's almost always the theater's fault. And theater staff are probably more likely to be agnostic about Fathom events then a movie they've already been playing all week.

I'll tell management I just watched a movie of theirs in the wrong aspect ratio (and it does seem to happen more often with Fathom stuff, but it will be a theater where I'm already used to getting this kind of experience).

First they'll proceed to lecture me about aspect ratios, as if my vocabulary didn't already illustrate I understand just fine, thank you (I know when people's chins and hair are constantly being cropped off, even if nobody else in the audience was smart enough to complain).

Then they'll flat out insist it's beyond their control to fix. The projector cannot be adjusted, or it will override people's attempts to adjust it, and always (always, always) it's the fault of the distributor for sending it to them wrong.

Bullshit. If the movie were in another language and it were subtitles getting cropped, and you had a half dozen people coming and complaining to you, you'd fix it... because you wouldn't have any choice (and you did. But now you're choosing not to remember that incident because I'm just one person and I'm nobody).

 

[Kor]

Come to think of it, the last two of these Fathom presentations that I saw had technical issues. They were at the same theater. But I'm going to see TVH at a different theater. Hopefully the staff there know what they're doing.

Kor

 

[Damian]

I do recall one where there was no sound for the intro presentation. They said at the theater they were unable to fix it, but they promised the movie was fine....and it was. Once the movie started everything was good after that.

But otherwise the theater in my area that shows fathom movies seems to be one of the better ones. I've seen "The Menagerie" in that theater when they had the event for that, along with TWOK and TMP, and 2 Hitchcock films they showed (I'm a huge Hitchcock film fan)--and other than that one time I haven't had any issues with any of the other films.

I'll tell management I just watched a movie of theirs in the wrong aspect ratio (and it does seem to happen more often with Fathom stuff, but it will be a theater where I'm already used to getting this kind of experience).

First they'll proceed to lecture me about aspect ratios, as if my vocabulary didn't already illustrate I understand just fine, thank you (I know when people's chins and hair are constantly being cropped off, even if nobody else in the audience was smart enough to complain).

Yeah, it's probably somebody that doesn't know how to adjust the projector properly (sort of like how it seems many people don't know how to adjust their TV's to the appropriate screen size).

I suppose that was one advantage of actual films back in the day with film projectors. It just showed whatever was on the film strip, no adjustment necessary.

 

[Bad Robot]

I do recall one where there was no sound for the intro presentation. They said at the theater they were unable to fix it, but they promised the movie was fine....and it was. Once the movie started everything was good after that.

That's usually a good sign that you're getting an authentic experience. If the Fathom event itself was a 1080i crap presentation (doesn't happen half as often as people accuse, but I've definitely been hosed) it would just stay on the same source as their pre-show reel.

I suppose that was one advantage of actual films back in the day with film projectors. It just showed whatever was on the film strip, no adjustment necessary.

You would still get stuck with projection techs who could not tell the difference between anamorphic or flat. Back in the mid-'90s one theater struggled with getting its content on the screen throughout the entire trailer reel (then only about 5-7 minutes long with maybe three trailers) and continued to have problems through opening credits. I assume someone got the manager and he finally shrunk the screen down (Booooooo!!) to its proper 2.35. But the opening of the movie was already blown due to amateur hour.

Now they just don't even bother adjusting the screen in my town (they leave it maximized) and you can more easily catalog which screens in which theaters favor one aspect ratio over the other. (And distressingly, over half the theaters now have 1.85 only if not 1.78.) Although thankfully theaters online will now tell you what screen you're reserving.

 

[Damian]

You would still get stuck with projection techs who could not tell the difference between anamorphic or flat. Back in the mid-'90s one theater struggled with getting its content on the screen throughout the entire trailer reel (then only about 5-7 minutes long with maybe three trailers) and continued to have problems through opening credits. I assume someone got the manager and he finally shrunk the screen down (Booooooo!!) to its proper 2.35. But the opening of the movie was already blown due to amateur hour.

I remember when I went to see Die Another Day they were having issues with the audio. That was 2002 so I'm not sure if they had switched to digital yet or if they were still running a film. But the Bond theme during the gun barrel sequence was muted, then the first 30 seconds or so of the movie cut in and out. Then it was ok.

Funny story with that though was when the title credits started and I thought they were having audio issues again. Don't know if anyone remembers Madonna's theme for that movie but it had a staccato effect. But because of the earlier audio issues I briefly thought it was an audio issue.

I consider myself a Madonna fan for the most part, but the song she did for that film was not her best

 

[Bad Robot]

I remember when I went to see Die Another Day they were having issues with the audio. That was 2002 so I'm not sure if they had switched to digital yet or if they were still running a film. But the Bond theme during the gun barrel sequence was muted, then the first 30 seconds or so of the movie cut in and out. Then it was ok.

Funny story with that though was when the title credits started and I thought they were having audio issues again. Don't know if anyone remembers Madonna's theme for that movie but it had a staccato effect. But because of the earlier audio issues I briefly thought it was an audio issue.

I consider myself a Madonna fan for the most part, but the song she did for that film was not her best

It really wasn't. I could do the verses, but I think her chorus needed help.

I think 2009-2013 was when most theaters switched over. Back when the latter two SW prequels were digital, and it was kind of a big deal (though I still find it laughable that they were basically shot in 1080p), you had to make the effort to find it. And honestly you were better off just seeing it on film.

2013 was when most theaters seemed to stop masking the unused portion of the screen. I guess just not enough people manning the booths to bother with it. AMC will still adjust the screens, although I haven't been there in a while.

I had bad audio experiences with Knowing and Watchmen, both in 2009 I believe. Damned if I know what they were, but the sound became very scratchy and there were even bad lip-sync problems.

 

[Grizzlor]

I'm sure the theater was at fault, but I'm the one who paid to see it and was given junk. I'm sure they don't care about Fathom stuff; hence why I avoid them ever since.

 

[Admiral Archer]

Just got back from my local screening. Gotta admit, seeing the Enterprise-A reveal at the very end on the big screen was amazing! So much emotion. I can only imagine how audiences reacted upon first seeing that!

 

[JonnyBoy]

Saw it tonight and the entire presentation was fantastic. A/V quality was excellent in our theater, and the film looked amazing. They did a great job with the restoration. Can't say for sure, but I think at least some of the vfx shots have been recomposited. I let out an audible "DAMN" during the Spacedock shot that follows the the Spock/Sarek scene at the end. The sound was also really impressive. The Probe sounded/felt MASSIVE. I'm now even more excited for the 4K Blu Rays.