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Spoilers The Bad Batch - Season 1 Discussion [cue A-Team theme music]

Man this was great. Not really surprising, as it went back to some of the strongest material from both TCW and Rebels. And we finally get to see Hera's mom! Also, I love Chop. My favorite droid, hands down.

So, something interesting I've noticed. They don't have the clones take their helmets off much anymore. Since we left Kamino, we've hardly seen them without their kit on. The obvious exceptions are the Batch themselves, Crosshair and Rex. Which makes sense, because they are our core cast. But now we have Howzer. This guy is something of a throwback. He's still wearing his individualized armor, still seemingly thinking for himself and even questioning (though ultimately following) orders when he doesn't like the smell of them. And we see him with his helmet off a bunch. In fact, he takes it off every chance he gets.

It's no accident. He's the most Clone Trooper clone we've seen all series other than Rex. The others are transitioning into Stormtroopers. Faceless cogs in the machine. I loved the deliberate dichotomy. If anything, it makes the tragedy of the clones even more poignant. Not all of them were completely subsumed by Order 66, it would seem. Which leaves room for someone like Rex to stand up and try to save them from the Empire. And even though we can guess that they almost certainly fail, given what we've seen later, I'm really rooting for it. The clones don't deserve this. To see their legacy destroyed, their deeds and bravery twisted. To become symbols of the very oppression they fought against.

On that note, it was interesting how positively menacing the descent of the gunships coming to arrest Gobi and Hera was. After years of associating the gunship with heroism and salvation, now it has almost overnight become ominous, something to fear. Some of this stuff is wonderfully subtle, but the world building is top notch. We, like Cham, want to see the clones as a force for something positive because we've spent so long thinking of them in that way. But now that image has become a weapon to blind people to the truth, and to ease the Empire's conquest. It's horrifying. Really effective stuff.
 
Agreed. It's really powerful imagery. You have this entire army made up of soldiers who are literally all the same person yet each encouraged to express his own individuality. They all had unique names and their unique masks all reflected the person inside. Now they all wear the same mask and have been reduced to sequential numbers instead of names.
 
And soon the army will be made up of people with different faces, and yet they will be the same faceless stark white armored troopers with only a designation, no name. Unlike the Cloned Grand Army of the Republic, where the same faced troopers were individuals despite their original intent as the generic faceless mass army.
 
It's a great show, well written with intriguing plot points, fun characters and absolutely stunning visuals... but as much as I love Hera (and Chop/Rebels), the cameos are starting to get a bit much.

I'm a big fan of Filoni, but I think he needs to tone it down a bit. Especially in season 1 of a new show. I'm hoping the likes of Andor and Obi-Wan might be the breath of fresh air I feel Star Wars needs a bit more of at the moment. The High Republic is certainly helping there too though to be fair.

But yeah, relatively minor nitpick. I've been really happy with almost everything Disney Star Wars, which probably isn't something people hear often online if you spend much time on YouTube :rolleyes::lol:
 
That was a wonderful interview. I loved her insights about Hera's interaction with Omega and how much that aligned with how much I loved that scene. I especially loved reading about her relationship with her father and how that affected performance as Hera because of their shared experiences as pilots.
 
She did such a good job too. It took me a long minute to convince myself it was even her, and I say this as someone who's been a big Vanessa Marshall fan since the early naughts.

Even more embarrassing is recently re-watched Lower Decks and she does a couple of background voices that I totally missed on first airing.
 
She did such a good job too. It took me a long minute to convince myself it was even her, and I say this as someone who's been a big Vanessa Marshall fan since the early naughts.

Even more embarrassing is recently re-watched Lower Decks and she does a couple of background voices that I totally missed on first airing.
As I said up thread, I didn't realize it was her until I saw her name in the credits.
 
Yeah, I was among the many who thought it was weird that they got a different actress to play young Hera (in contrast to young Kanan) and then was pleasantly surprised that I was wrong when I saw the end credits!
 
I enjoyed the episode. though the escape may have too been too easy. No ships in orbit?
 
^ I was thinking the same. Surely they would have ships in orbit.

Good episode. Very well made. Not totally gripped or invested in the characters but It is entertaining.
 
"Omega, it's a big galaxy. We can't put ourselves on the line every time someone's in trouble."
"Why not? Isn't that what soldiers do?"

Another terrific episode and it immediately addressed my predictions about Howzer and Omega/Hera. I figured Howzer would ultimately do the right thing, especially spurned by Cham's angry distrust and sense of betrayal. I still hope we'll see him again further down the line and that he won't be immediately executed or, worse, reprogrammed.

I loved seeing the Omega/Hera relationship being the core of the episode, balanced by Hera's steely resolve to rescue her parents and Omega's sense of heroism for the greater good. I particularly loved how Omega used Hunter's need for strategy to convince him to do the right thing. While the focus of the episode was on Omega's new budding friendship with Hera, her relationship with Hunter continues to grow stronger, too. Considering all of the immediate issues on Ryloth have been resolved, I'm guessing it'll be awhile before we see Hera and company again, but hopefully it won't be too long.

Speaking of which, I was wrong on one prediction: Eleni didn't die. Considering how the episode played out, I'm glad it didn't happen here because it would've been a cheap death. But I still expect we'll see that tragic moment sometime in the future.

And now Crosshair is actively going after his former comrades. This is going to get ugly, isn't it?
 
Hunter had to figure Crosshair would try go after them eventually. I'll try to have a facility to take him to and take out the implant...
 
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