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Worst Character Assassination Episodes

Bashir says that the use of the positronic brain removes "the spark of life". He never said anything about lacking the knowledge to do the procedure. Plus Bashir managed to transfer ALL the memory of the dead part to the positronic brain and that seems competent enough.

From the transcript at http://www.chakoteya.net/DS9/459.htm:

WINN: You were able to replace some of his internal organs with artificial implants. Could you do something similar with the damaged parts of his brain?
BASHIR: It's hard to say with any certainty. There's still a great deal about the way the brain operates we don't understand.​

I'm just going to go ahead and interpret "It's hard to say with any certainty" and the follow-up sentence about there being "a great deal about the way the brain operates we don't understand" as Bashir saying that he lacked the medical knowledge to transfer more than just the knowledge, which is what I said.
 
Agreed about the earlier points, but not the last one. As we later learned, Soong had already successfully, or at least apparently successfully, performed the positronic transfer of Juliana in "Inheritance." Soong did not share his technique, and by his own admission it was still experimental when he performed the transfer. From http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/262.htm:

SOONG: She was injured when the Crystalline Entity attacked. We made it as far as Terlina Three but, she slipped into a coma. When I realised nothing could be done for her, I built an android. I tried to perfect my synaptic scanning technique so that I could transfer Juliana's memories into a positronic matrix. I didn't know if it would work, but I had to try. I couldn't stand the thought of losing the only woman I ever loved. A few days after Juliana died, I activated the android. She looked up at me and smiled. She recognised me. It had worked! Here was a life not two minutes old, and as far as she knew I was her husband. She'd just recovered from a terrible injury. It was incredible.​

Fair point. And as it was unknown to anyone else, and was still experimental, I still stand by what I said.
 
They completely ruined Alexander Rozhenko, and kind of made Kurn look awful too in DS9.
 
Zuck runs everything.

He sucks at it, but then so do many Soong-type androids.
 
But the thing is, the majority of the time the Enterprise was a safe place to be at. We only saw a small part of the seven years that passed during the series. It stands to reason that we saw the interesting/dramatic part, and even so the ship and its crew weren't in mortal danger every week.

It is my theory that long lasting and epsisode shows should be imagined to happen in many different alternate universes. So each episode should happen in an alternate universe, separete from the alternate universe of every other episode, and selected from billions of alternate universes by the creators to depict because it has an exciting andf dangerous adventure that the protagonists survive.

Except, of course, for episodes which are sequels to other episodes and so much happen in the same alternate universes as those earlier episodes.

Most of the kids seen on the Enterprise-D were seen in only one episode where things got dangerous, and possibly their parents got them off the ship as soon as they could after those dangerous events.

However, TNG was a lot more serialzied than TOS. The series did have some multi episode story arcs. Thus the Enterprise crew faced repeated dangers in the same timeline during those story arcs.

So the kids who were in the multi episode story arcs did face all the dangerous in the multiple episodes of those story arcs -Wesley Crusher, Alexander Rozhenko, and Molly O'Brien. It is rather improbable tha tthe Enterprise crew and passengers in general, and those three kids in particular, always survived all the dangers in the many epsiodes in those story arcs.

[Added 07-06-2021. I just happened to find another example of a child seen on the Enterprise D during multiple episodes. According to IMDB Rickey D'Shon Collins, b. 1983, appeared in three episodes as "Eric" - "Liaisons" 09/27 1993, "Masks" Feb. 21, 1994, and "Firstborn" April 25, 1994.]

But obviously the creators didn't chose to depict the events in alternate universe where everone was killed, but only ddepicted the events in alternate universes where the protagonists (with the exception of Tasha Yar) survived to the end of the series.
 
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It would be far more tempting for a twin to try something to depose his brother and take his place because of the resemblance. As for whom gets the throne, it definitely mattered a lot for the one who was going to be king. between the 12th century and the 16th (a troubled era), a great many pretendants to the throne were either poisoned, executed, or exiled for different reasons (mostly pretexts). Being the king of France was a highly disputed position and in a relatively small amount of time, many kings succeeded on that throne (Games Of Throne was right at least in that respect). Being a king was apparently a rewarding position but it was a dangerous one as well.

Actually the average length of a royal reign in France was longer than usual and nobody fought the rigning king for the crown from about 1000 to the start of the 100 years war, or again until the War of the Three Henrys. And even then I don't now if anyone wanted to depose Henry III or merely seize control of the government from him. Many other kingdoms were far more unstable.

The king was an absolute ruler. The only thing that mattered while he was alive was his WILL not the will of his dynasty. Kings were known to have people killed for even being remotely suspected of conspiring against them and even then they still managed to get themselves assassinated at an early stage (sometimes mere months after having being crowned.). As I said it was a dangerous position. Many times the heir to the throne was killed in their infancy, as a baby even. Where do you think the fictions get their inspiration from?

Even though the early modern kings of France are listed as absolute monarchs, and Louis XIV is the typical example of an absolute monarch, they were not as absolute, despotic, tyrannical, autocratic, etc. as you imagine them to be.
 
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Actually the average length of a royal reign in France was longer than usual and nobody fought the rigning king for the crown from about 1000 to the start of the 100 years war, or again until the War of the Three Henrys. And even then I don't now if anyone wanted to depose Henry III or merely seize control of the government from him. Many other kingdoms were far more unstable.



Even though the early modern kings of France are listed as absolute monarchs, and Louis XIV is the typical example of an absolute monarch, they were not as absolute, despotic, tyrannical, autocratic, etc. as you imagine them to be.
Dust in the wind, man. He's long gone and will never see your response.
 
Dust in the wind, man. He's long gone and will never see your response.
Fairly sure the poster "Freethinker" who joined after Swedish left and posted equally frequently before getting the boot inside a week was him attempting to return. If he didn't see the reply in that guise I'm sure he will try again so hope may not be lost
 
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