A minority of people dislike it, yes.
Clearly the majority must like it or they wouldn't keep renewing the shows and making new ones.
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Clearly the majority must like it or they wouldn't keep renewing the shows and making new ones.
OK, sounds good to me. I'm looking forward to it!
ST: Picard is about Picard. It's in the title. It will focus on things related to his life. Strange New Worlds is about exploration. It's also in the title. But don't confuse the intent of the two shows.
Again, fine by me.
Exactly. Don't care how inspired Orville looks. The humor doesn't work. It is out of place and off putting at times. And, yes, this would mean returning to the Berman era aesthetic and safe pacing. I get that Kurtzman Trek isn't for everyone but returning to what oversaw the decline of Trek strikes me as odd.
Are you joking? The Berman era was the most successful era of Star Trek! The so called decline was to be expected after 25 seasons and was mostly due to the supid idea of making a prequel. However, I would still take any given episode of Enterprise over a season of Discovery.
Returning to the old style can be successful, as proven by The Orville!
No, the decline had started prior to Enterprise releasing, by the numbers.
And that's fine that you would take any given Episode of Enterprise. They are still available to watch and enjoy. But, Discovery and others are being enjoyed by people. So, expanding the market is always a good idea, not repeating a product that was already done.
The fact remains that The Orville is hugely successful, especially in Trek fandom. Kurtzman Trek on the other hand has failed to deliver any Star Trek feeling whatsoever, despite endless self referencing.
One doesn't preclude the other. Both appear to have success. Which is what I want in the market-variety, not monotony.
And clearly Kurtzman Trek is successful to keep getting made. And, honestly, Discovery is more Trek for me than Orville. It's almost like that Star Trek feeling is subjective.
Will you listen to yourself?
You would prefer to try to resuscitate the dead rather than bring in someone new!
Why NOT do a prequel? What's wrong with seeing how the Federation began?
That is exactly what is wanted is to resurrect the dead. To reclaim the glory of the past.Will you listen to yourself?
You would prefer to try to resuscitate the dead rather than bring in someone new!
Why NOT do a prequel? What's wrong with seeing how the Federation began?
Yep. Thanks for the good laugh there.
As I believe was already described in detail upthread, "The Road Not Taken" references a Robert Frost poem...it goes back a lot farther than The Orville.
No, no, no, no, no - everyone knows that it originated with the Orville - the one true successor to GRs dream.
This entirely original, not influenced by anything that has come before bar TNG, show must be better than NuTrek because no one in the world likes Disco or Picard and the true Trek fan only has love for The Orville
I'm not sure I like the message that seems to be sending. Picard succeeds in saving the Romulans and this results in a fascist Federation/militant Starfleet? So, by taking in the Romulans, the Federation lost its way, and has turned evil and wrong? Sound like Nationalist propaganda to me.
Tapestry wasn't about time travel per se, but rather a look at Picard's younger life.
Maybe not "evil" but Yesterday's Enterprise showed a darker take on the TNG characters, Starfleet and the Federation.
All we know of the season so far is a very brief teaser trailer designed to pique our interest in the new story that is to be told. We have absolutely no way of knowing whether or not the events of season one will be addressed or to what extent. We certainly don't know enough to say that it will definitely be swept under the carpet and forgotten about.
Thus the modifier "appears.,"
I'm intrigued. Q always makes for an interesting episode and in this instance an interesting season.
Ever since PIC started, fans have been ragging on the Federation because they didn't help the Romulans. Even though there are specific reasons why they didn't, the Federation is labelled "evil and wrong" for that, too. They can't win, can they?
More like, "damned if they do and damned if they don't".
I think it's deliberate: note that Picard is also wearing *four-pip* versions of the updated "trapezoid"-shaped admiral rank bars and we haven't seen those on-screen before so they're NEW for this season. It was pretty obvious that they would exist between Clancy's five-pip version and Oh's single-pip but they weren't in S1.
NGL these scenes are alwasy a treat considering Sir Pat said no uniform, no Captain of the Enterprise. Yes the Admirality thing is new for this show (bar Future Imperfect), but even seeing a screengrab of Picard back in Starfleet uniform takes us a step closer to the guy we knew on TNG/the movies
They ARE exploring a "strange new world." They're exploring an alternate timeline.
Personally, I think Jay will have had Seven's implants removed (Seven remembers having them -- she feels for her ocular implant in the trailer).
Jay will go for the low-hanging fruit (the cheap, the visible, the easy, the obvious), completely oblivious to Seven's internal implants.
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