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News Paramount+ head of programming McNamara leaves...should we worry?

Well Trek is usually co financed by Netflix or Amazon, so theres some give there. But as a new person coming in, they might look at the streaming model, and say that the last person/plan had us reaching, say 50 million susbcribers to make it profitable in say, 5 years. They might look at the books and say, this isn't working, or it'll take more than 5 years, or we'll never make that mark, so we have to find out ways to "Trim the Fat" to make it a profit.

More than likely, it going to be same ole same ole, lets keep going, but there is always the possibliity of change.
Only ST: D was co-financed. Since then, Paramount's been footing the bill on everything else.
 
Wasn´t the then head of Paramount the reason why we didn´t get new shows after Enterprise? Because he hated Trek... What was his name? Mooves?

CBS not Paramount, but yes that was the rumour. On the other hand, Mooves was still CEO of CBS when Discovery was green lit and when started airing.

So take that as you will.

Only ST: D was co-financed. Since then, Paramount's been footing the bill on everything else.
CBS not Paramount.
 
Destroying sets after a series is finished isn't that unusual if they can't be repurposed.
But they had been repurposed before and it's not as if Star Trek was going away forever. These weren't just things from Enterprise. They had stuff from the original series they bulldozed too. 40 years of Trek history gone in 10 minutes.

2005 --> ENT ends.
2006 --> A new Star Trek movie is announced.
"Hey Tom, they're making a new Star Trek movie, where are those sets we can repurpose?"
"We bulldozed them Bill."
"Jez, you didn't wait too long to do that, well, can we have some of those props or costumes we might be able to use them in some way."
"We auctioned them Bill."
 
They had stuff from the original series they bulldozed too. 40 years of Trek history gone in 10 minutes.
Erm no? There was no TOS stuff left after the 60s.

"Hey Tom, they're making a new Star Trek movie, where are those sets we can repurpose?"
"We bulldozed them Bill."
"Jez, you didn't wait too long to do that, well, can we have some of those props or costumes we might be able to use them in some way."
"We auctioned them Bill."
They would never have used them even if there were some left. You saw what direction ST09 went.
 
"Hey Tom, they're making a new Star Trek movie, where are those sets we can repurpose?"
"We bulldozed them Bill."
"Jez, you didn't wait too long to do that, well, can we have some of those props or costumes we might be able to use them in some way."
"We auctioned them Bill."
That's literally what studios do all the time. Even after The Phantom Menace Lucasfilm had many sets struck. This is assuming malice where there is none; just business as usual.
 
Sets get stricken all the time. There is no malice behind it. It's not like the studio was out there with gasoline and a flamethrower while playing a violin and drinking beers.
To quote John Eaves
"I heard this thru the grape vine on the lot that this was a vendetta by one suit that was new and hated Star Trek with a passion. It was obvious when the only thing at the warehouse’s to be removed were the Star Trek stuff. It was told that it was to much money to keep all the storage facilities, but ONLY Star trek was pulled out"

Erm no? There was no TOS stuff left after the 60s.
Yes there was.
They auctioned off Kirk's chair from TOS.

To quote Eaves again
"I used to walk the isles of these sets in storage and it was like a tour of history!!!! Everything was there!"

They would never have used them even if there were some left. You saw what direction ST09 went.
Who knows. They might have been background props, costumes, they could have been used for anything.
 
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To quote John Eaves
"I heard this thru the grape vine on the lot that this was a vendetta by one suit that was new and hated Star Trek with a passion. It was obvious when the only thing at the warehouse’s to be removed were the Star Trek stuff. It was told that it was to much money to keep all the storage facilities, but ONLY Star trek was pulled out"
So rumor and hearsay. I find that hard to believe.

Who knows. They might have been background props, costumes, they could have been used for anything.
There was no reason to.
 
So rumor and hearsay. I find that hard to believe.

I have found that commen sense is void in the minds of people in power. my 7 year old would have handled this with more practicality than what wound up happening! - John Eaves

IT was Just EVIL!!!! - John Eaves
 
I have found that commen sense is void in the minds of people in power. my 7 year old would have handled this with more practicality than what wound up happening! - John Eaves
"Nothing so uncommon as common sense." Thomas Payne.

Sorry, it's hearsay. I don't have any reason to believe it. Nor do I find it that upsetting. It's not unusual to auction or destroy sets that are not being used. Like I said, Lucasfilm completely struck whole sets from The Phantom Menace even though they would be making a film after it. Common sense indeed.
 
"Nothing so uncommon as common sense." Thomas Payne.

Sorry, it's hearsay. I don't have any reason to believe it. Nor do I find it that upsetting. It's not unusual to auction or destroy sets that are not being used. Like I said, Lucasfilm completely struck whole sets from The Phantom Menace even though they would be making a film after it. Common sense indeed.
Oh noooos! not all those green screen sets!
 
Mr Eaves isn't an unreliable narrator, but as always the truth or only lies somewhere in the middle.
Probably after nemesis and Ent. They didn't see any use of the berman era stuff and just sold off or chunked the rest. Was there some malice? Maybe, not unheard of. But what Eaves wished would have happened was probably a fan dream that wasn't reality.
Costs money to store stuff, if there was a reason to keep it then sure, but with berman era trek dead, bean counters probably said sell or get rid of it.
 
If memory serves, they did keep the sets for the Defiant around, however, as they were pretty easy to redress into whatever alien ship of the week they needed them for.
Indeed, the Defiant bridge was kept all the way up to at least Enterprise season 3, where it was the bridge for the Xindi Reptilian warship.
 
But they had been repurposed before and it's not as if Star Trek was going away forever. These weren't just things from Enterprise. They had stuff from the original series they bulldozed too. 40 years of Trek history gone in 10 minutes.

If you're talking about the sets originally produced for the TOS movies and then carried forward to TNG and Voyager, they had actually been dismantled already when Voyager ended, as the underlying structure had deteriorated too much for them to be redesigned again for Enterprise.
 
Oh noooos! not all those green screen sets!
The Jedi Council room was a real set and was struck.

Mr Eaves isn't an unreliable narrator, but as always the truth or only lies somewhere in the middle.
Probably after nemesis and Ent. They didn't see any use of the berman era stuff and just sold off or chunked the rest. Was there some malice? Maybe, not unheard of. But what Eaves wished would have happened was probably a fan dream that wasn't reality.
Costs money to store stuff, if there was a reason to keep it then sure, but with berman era trek dead, bean counters probably said sell or get rid of it.
This is more the point. The story sounds too fantastical to be true so I have my reservations. More than that I find the storage cost being a far more likely factor than just spite.
 
But they had been repurposed before and it's not as if Star Trek was going away forever.
Yes, when Star Trek was in production, after Enterprise ended there were no immediate plans for a new production and the stages were cleared out.

Yes there was.
They auctioned off Kirk's chair from TOS.
They didn't have the original chair. What was auctioned off was most likely the chair from the Defiant bridge set they build for "In a mirror, darkly".
 
This is more the point. The story sounds too fantastical to be true so I have my reservations. More than that I find the storage cost being a far more likely factor than just spite.
This is not the opinion of only John Eaves. Doug Drexler, Mike and Denise Okuda would perhaps have similar wordings. And i'm more willing to take the opinion of someone who actually worked on the show.
 
This is not the opinion of only John Eaves. Doug Drexler, Mike and Denise Okuda would perhaps have similar wordings. And i'm more willing to take the opinion of someone who actually worked on the show.
Good for them. Take it all you want. I do not take as verbatim as to what happened. Any time a story is out to paint someone as completely "EEVIL" I'll take it with a cup of salt.
 
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