The Fall of Joss Whedon
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When it comes to not wanting to support anything Whedon is involved with, the one thing I'm torn on is the new Buffy/Angel & Firefly comics. To best of my knowledge isn't directly involved with them, but they still have his name on them, which I would assume means he does get some of the money from them.
Naive, or going overboard, performing self-comforting psychological gymnastics designed to provide a lifeline of any kind to a man who is an offender on numerous levels? Some in this thread (and one I believe had been absent from this thread, who did not want to believe the allegations against Whedon at the time the Fisher/Gadot story broke) are so high on Whedon's work, that they cannot issue the condemnation he's richly deserved for (at least) two decades. I suppose the value of morality has its limits when in comes to certain entertainers.
Why not both?
Whedon clearly has a history that has nothing to do with minors being kept at a distance from him on-set due to "standard industry policy." When the guy who stuffs cherry bombs down the public toilets suddenly is no longer allowed to use the men's room in the same building I'm not going to automatically go to: "there's restroom maintenance going on and everyone is being treated the same way."
Police and Jail.
Teaching her dirty words is fine.
Showing her a porno is bad.
I have a 14 year old nephew who just likes to talk about how much access he has to gay porn on the internet. Which is something he likes, because he is gay.
Some kids grow up fast.
Maybe Michelle was a little slow to get her big girl pants?
(That sounds dirtier than it's supposed to sound.)
I absolutely do not think that someone in their early 20s has enough life experience for there not to be a power differential in a romantic relationship with a partner in their 50s. I also do not think that someone in their early 20s has enough life experience for that power differential to not be harmful.
And someone in their early 20s who is in a "romantic relationship" with someone who was their parent absolutely does not have enough life experience for that power differential not to be fundamentally abusive.
Sorry if that bothers you.
You are significantly over-estimating the extent to which someone in a sexual relationship with a person who was their parent is capable of consent under those circumstances.
Woody Allen was literally the co-parent of his current wife when he was with Mia Farrow. That is not in question.
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This isn't true by any stretch of the imagination. All you have to do is look up child labor laws when it comes to filming. This is why studios hire teachers to supervise child actors. But this isn't about facts, this is about defending a monster because he made good shows and movies.
Our minds do not fully mature until mid to late twenties. That is why credit card companies prey on university students. Of course people mature at different ages.
In the case of Woody Allen, it is highly likely he was grooming Soon-Yi, who suffered a great deal of trauma at a young age, when she was a teenager.
In the case of Woody Allen, it is highly likely he was grooming Soon-Yi, who suffered a great deal of trauma at a young age, when she was a teenager.
I have a similar scale, but OSC is on his end specifically because of how he uses the financial support I'd be contributing to. So even for him I'm willing to buy his books from a used bookstore because he doesn't get the $ and I still like his writing (at least until I come across a book that has his bigotry obviously creep in). Every one has a different line in the separation of art and artist.
People contain multitudes...
As others have said, it seems unfair that his previous behavior could screw up things for all the other people working on stuff like The Nevers.
Yet it's legal and none of your business (in general; not speaking to the very specific Woody Allen situation).
Lots of things can be legal and still deserving of public scorn.
1. The fact he married someone whom he parented is a strong indicator that he likely had a sexual relationship with Soon-Yi Priven before she was an adult. It is also a strong indicator that he likely molested Dylan Farrow as a child. So, no, it is not "none of our business;" the public has a compelling interest in preventing adults from molesting children.
2. Woody Allen puts himself out there as an artist, and that means he is by definition inviting examination of his life choices. If he or his fans want to pull the "none of your business" card, he ought to retire from public life.
No, any adult who marries a person they had parented is giving a strong indicator that they may have molested that person as a child. If you marry a person you had previously parented, your choice is public business, because the public has a compelling interest in preventing adults from molesting children.
Joss Whedon is in the news again for completely different reasons. He recently married a Canadian woman, who is having difficulties getting a green card because he's been using Joss on documents and IDs for so long that he can't prove he's Joseph Whedon in order to get his birth certificate or correct errors on the wedding certificate (which has an incorrect maiden name for his mother and lists his birthplace as the nonexistent Santa Monica, New York).
https://pagesix.com/2021/05/08/joss-whedon-needs-birth-certificate-to-get-wife-green-card/
https://pagesix.com/2021/05/08/joss-whedon-needs-birth-certificate-to-get-wife-green-card/
Both are inappropriate in the workplace.
I'm fifty and I'm not sure mine has fully matured yet...
Thoughts and prayers.
Yeah.
"Enjoy." That's the verb.
"Enjoy." That's the verb.
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