There are no Maquis civilians.
Worst Character Assassination Episodes
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There are no Maquis civilians.
I always though the problem with "For The Uniform" was just how convoluted the metaphor is. Poisoning a planet... for 50 years... in a way that only affects one type of person but not another -- there is no real-world situation like that. I can't think of any ability humans currently have which is THAT destructive, but also THAT targeted.
So we can never really make sense of it, because this overworked plotting does not relate to real life, unlike Trek's more successfully executed moral-dilemma episodes.
So we can never really make sense of it, because this overworked plotting does not relate to real life, unlike Trek's more successfully executed moral-dilemma episodes.
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Not everyone living on planets in the neutral zone actually took up arms. There WERE civilians on those planets: children, elderly, other noncombatants. Sisko's actions did indeed drive those people off as well as actual Maquis.
The planet that Sisko attacked was specifically identified as a Maquis colony. Not just "a colony in the DMZ".
The latter has civilians; the former does not.
Side note: I admit I'm curious to know what the Maquis, as such, thought of those colonists who wouldn't join. Groups like this rarely take kindly to those who won't support The Struggle
.The only thing "like that" is selective herbicide but it only applies to plants.
Some Maquis cells just might have. Chakotay, for example. I don't see his group committing atrocities or recruiting children or anything like that. He and his group were a fairly decent sort.
But Eddington? Not so much. Look at what his faction did to informants like Cing'ta - stranding them alone on an inhospitable planet, left to die. Any group who would stoop that low, probably WOULD try to recruit kids.
That's some bias!! You consider it low to strand someone on a planet but at the same time, you fight tooth and nail to justify poisoning an entire planet!!! I mean seriously, you can't have it both ways.
Why don't you say: "If you stoop so low as to poison entire planets then you probably used kids as living time bombs."?
Caesar can do no wrong, huh? But only if that "caesar" is named Sisko, it seems.
Chakotay and Eddington were the same faction, at least according to the novels.
^ I don’t believe that for a second.
It was one of the novels telling the story of how Tuvok infiltrated Chakotay's ship. After their first meeting, Chakotay got in contact with Eddington to verify the intel Tuvok had just provided.
But are there ciivilians on Maquis run planets?
Some would say that the Maquis members were all all ciivians and thus criminals and terrorists. Other people may say that Maquis members were soldiers.
But since the Maquis were fighting to avoid two choise they didn't like -1) leave the planets they lived on, or 2) suffer from Cardassian rule, it is logical thtat most planets occupied by Maquis had been occupied by Federation colonists before the war and the peace treaty.
So did the Maquis send all the non Maquis civilans on those planets to Federation space to be safe before starting theirpsring, or did they foolishly leave them on the planets in the battle zone? If they chose the latter option, there would still be civilians on many of the Maquis planets.
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How many examples of 'evil' leaders do you know that saw themselves as unreasonable, evil and/ or insane? (just as a general remark, not going into the particulars of Eddington here, that's a whole separate discussion)
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That episode made it very clear that it was a slow enough poison for everyone to evacuate safely.
Yeah, that's a typical Star Trek thing. Things that don't cause any lingering damage until they kill you. I like it when they that about radiations, radiations are basically highly powered missiles going through your body destroying the molecules they run into... Their effect is cumulative and irreversible. We've never encountered radiations that were inoffensive until they were deadly, that's Sci. Fi. bullshit.
The Maquis considered themselves a breakaway state, not (just) "freedom fighter" cells. Whole colonies existed in the DMZ after the treaties, and they threw in their lot with the Maquis when the Federation withdrew. I presume those colonies are what Sisko referred to as "Maquis colonies", not just some planets with a few adult squatters on it.
Maquis civilians are the civilians that the Maquis are constantly protecting. They're not just fighting the Cardassians for giggles. They're fighting to preserve their homesteads in the DMZ and Cardassian-ceded territory. That's the whole reason for their existence.
Maquis civilians are the civilians that the Maquis are constantly protecting. They're not just fighting the Cardassians for giggles. They're fighting to preserve their homesteads in the DMZ and Cardassian-ceded territory. That's the whole reason for their existence.
So you ignored my case for it not being character assassination ... or did you just miss it?
