Starship design history in light of Discovery

Federation meters are longer than earth meters

 

Naah. It's just that Federation people are larger than Earth people.

Timo Saloniemi

 

Well, some Vulcans were in animated form.

 

Something that always bugged me was how long the Vulcan ships from enterprise are. At first I thought they seemed large but just had different volumne distribution, but event then they have roughly the volumne of the exclescior. Maybe the enterprise (show) sizes are in earth meters and the defiant was shrunk when it went back in time?

 

They all use the same kind of meters because all the artists are from our reality.

 

If that were the case the Oberth turbo lifts wouldn’t fit in the pylons

 

Then take it up with the artist.

 

Maybe they're like that little lift in Enterprise-D engineering and no fat crewmembers are allowed

 

Irrelevant. What I am saying is that Starfleet ships sizes (pre 2017) are in “Federation meters”. Discovery sizes are in “discovery meters” but are measured with the old scale in-universe. (A computer graphic showed the Enterprise with the original 288 m size)

 

This forum is for in universe discussion, not out of universe stuff like artists and creative license

 

And in-universe there's no such thing as "Federation meters"

 

Factually incorrect. As you are relatively new here, you should know that there have been literally tens of thousands of behind-the-scenes discussions that insert themselves into "in-universe" conversations on a regular basis all over this BBS. This is nothing new and very common. Gotsta roll with the changes, man...

 

This forum is for all types of discussion, in universe, out universe, slightly off centre universe. We're discussing made up nonsense that has and always will be at the whim of the people running it.

 

The we're-pretending-this-is-all-real forum is the Trek Tech section. I'd suggest posting about "Federation meters" in there. Everywhere else you're fair game.

 

Meters and meters and kilometers are kilometers. If the Federation can't agree on what a meter is then I doubt they could hold a vast interstellar alliance together for so many centuries.

 

Sternbach had that predicted too:
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/spaceflight-chronology/183.jpg
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/spaceflight-chronology/184.jpg
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/spaceflight-chronology/185.jpg
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/spaceflight-chronology/186.jpg
https://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/spaceflight-chronology/187.jpg

That should be Tholian

 

No, that was the Goldsteins writing the text for that book. Rick certainly started affecting Trek design with his illustrations there...

 

Largest federation ship in history
638 meters long

 

It was supposed to be...Even he had mega containers larger...Now, that second one looked like what would be the Bajoran ship...TNG was only 8 years or so after TMP... but it seems like more, doesn’t it?

 

The federation agrees on what a meter is. They all use the federation meter. The discovery sizes we’re an out of universe phenomenon. They still use the 288 m size in Discovery in universe on a schematic seen in the show. In universe Discovery is considered 490 m long. Federation meters are called meters for simplicity.