That is my thinking, too.
Babylon 5
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Like, that he loved Lyta? That would do it.Maybe Zack had to tell Delenn a secret before he could get one.
I think Byron meant well, but he did make some mistakes and he could also be a bit manipulative.
Most glaringly, he clearly failed to instill his values in many of his followers, most damningly Lyta. I'd like to believe he never would have approved of the direction in which she took things.
At the same time, Lyta's an adult and made her own choices, and I find some of her later choices impossible to support.
It would have been nice if the Vorlons and Shadows hadn't just decided to stop interfering with the younger races but had also cleaned up some of their messes before they left. It seems oddly negligent of Lorien to have not foreseen some of the tragedies that would occur as a consequence.
Most glaringly, he clearly failed to instill his values in many of his followers, most damningly Lyta. I'd like to believe he never would have approved of the direction in which she took things.
At the same time, Lyta's an adult and made her own choices, and I find some of her later choices impossible to support.
It would have been nice if the Vorlons and Shadows hadn't just decided to stop interfering with the younger races but had also cleaned up some of their messes before they left. It seems oddly negligent of Lorien to have not foreseen some of the tragedies that would occur as a consequence.
They might not be reliable enough for academic papers, but when it comes to stuff like this they tend to be good enough. Fans on those kinds of sites are usually pretty good about catching and correcting any mistakes.
Ehhhh...that's not a safe claim to make. Fans make plenty of mistakes, too. I don't know the level of editorial rigor for the Babylon 5 wikia, but I'm sure it's not on the same level as Memory Alpha, Memory Beta, or Wookiepedia.
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Speaking as someone that wrote more articles on that wiki than I can count (seriously, if it's about a planet, a ship, species, government, organization, a character from the books, an organizational template, or related to the timeline, I probably either wrote it, or massively overhauled it. Indeed the whole 'Syria Planum Incident' article grew out of trying to line up all of the overlapping event from so many various stories that it got too big for the timeline article!) Hell for all I know I was the one that had him down as the XO.
So when I say that if there's not a specific citation attached to that specific information that you personally have checked, you shouldn't trust it; don't trust it. The amount of times I had to sift though unsourced or just outright fabricated nonsense and assumptions is part of the reason I gave up and haven't bothered even reading it in years.
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Or, if they're called CaptainMike (Memory Beta) or Season Fourteen (Law & Order), just being territorial, anal-retentive douchebags who undo all edits done by anyone other than them.
Wikipedia (the regular one) doesn't exactly get off scot-free, either...there's some "wiki-warlords" there as well, it would seem.
For example, there's something I keep trying to add, but they keep removing, all the while they're squawking about "original research" when it's blatantly obvious that IT WAS ACTUALLY ON THE SHOW:
Don't know why Wikis seem to have a weed up their ass about this sort of thing,, but there we are.
For example, there's something I keep trying to add, but they keep removing, all the while they're squawking about "original research" when it's blatantly obvious that IT WAS ACTUALLY ON THE SHOW:
In Wikipedia's entry on the Federation, I keep trying to add material relating to The Burn, from Discovery, but they keep taking it away, and won't give me a good reason why, other than the thing I just mentioned regarding "original research".
Don't know why Wikis seem to have a weed up their ass about this sort of thing,, but there we are.
Well, looking from the context clues from Season 5 and River of Souls, Corwin acted in the capacity to Lochely as Ivanova did for both Sinclair and Sheridan. Thus, he assumed the XO duties, regardless if it was ever spoken on screen.
After spending several years as a regular wiki editor, I think the closest analogy I can think of to describe the experience is "eternally building sandcastles as the tide is coming in". Nine times out of ten, it's not about who's right or who's used the correct source, it's about who's the most stubborn. On the whole, I found that life's too short and just walked away. Most of what I've written has probably been re-edited into incoherence over the years anyway. (And I know for a fact that many of the accurate logo recreation I made and uploaded have ended up on bootleg merchandise. Oh well!)Wikipedia (the regular one) doesn't exactly get off scot-free, either...there's some "wiki-warlords" there as well, it would seem.
For example, there's something I keep trying to add, but they keep removing, all the while they're squawking about "original research" when it's blatantly obvious that IT WAS ACTUALLY ON THE SHOW:
In Wikipedia's entry on the Federation, I keep trying to add material relating to The Burn, from Discovery, but they keep taking it away, and won't give me a good reason why, other than the thing I just mentioned regarding "original research".
Don't know why Wikis seem to have a weed up their ass about this sort of thing,, but there we are.
To give an example of how asinine it can get; I once got into an argument with someone about something (don't recall what) with him citing the internal style guide (which had been written years prior by a no longer active editor) as proof he was correct. So I just edited the style guide and that seemed to satisfy him...go figure!
Things like this can get tricky when it comes to wikis; if there's something that seems self evident but not explicitly stated somewhere in canon it may make sense just to go with that...except now you've just established a "fact" that can and will be repeated elsewhere.
To give an example; when tidying up the timeline I came across a DOB listed for a character I couldn't find the source for anywhere. Certainly not on the show, or any reference book I could find. So I looked up the "official" chronology (i.e. the one up out by JMS's B5 Books) and sure enough, there was the very same DOB and in the source citation was listed "The B5 Wiki". Well...shit...
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Maybe there was a holdup with the paperwork between Earthforce, the Interstellar Alliance, and the Independent Babylon 5 Human Resources Department, so he never got the job formally.
Elizabeth Lochley, Captain.
David Corwin, Senior Official Performing the Duties of the Executive Officer.
Zack Allen, Chief of Security.
Stephen Franklin, MedLab Chief of Staff.
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