Why? If Torres was the next in line after Janeway, Chakotay, Tuvok, and Paris. Or was it because she wasn't a Bridge Officer. I think we only saw her in Command one episode (The Episode with the Rock) And what about Rollins? Didn't he outrank Paris at one point?
Harry in Command in Futures End
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If the captain whim's you into command, you're in command. See 2009 Star Trek, Discovery season 3 or the Diane Duane novel Doctor's Orders where Kirk put's McCoy in command for a laugh then gets immediately kidnapped.
All part of Janeway's sadism, giving him a taste of command of what he could one day achieve, but never giving him the promotion he'd need to claim it.
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lmao. that's probably it
Yup. And that's actually how the chain of command reads in the American navy when I read such regulations (it was late and I wanted to sleep
).Perhaps the reason was very simple and pragmatic -- they wanted Torres 100% available in Engineering, given that the ship already was experiencing multiple technical problems?
Indeed.
Sadly, there's no comprehensive and Easter egg-free list of ship's personnel that I know of, so I can't tell you what other options existed. However, Voyager's senior staff at the time consisted of:
One captain ○○○○
One first officer ○○●
One lieutenant ○○
Two lieutenants junior grade ○●
One ensign ○
One unranked EMH
One civilian, maybe two (I don't remember if Kes regularly appeared at these meetings or not).
There were at least a few other lieutenants; why one of them was not chosen is unknown.
Sadly, there's no comprehensive and Easter egg-free list of ship's personnel that I know of, so I can't tell you what other options existed. However, Voyager's senior staff at the time consisted of:
One captain ○○○○
One first officer ○○●
One lieutenant ○○
Two lieutenants junior grade ○●
One ensign ○
One unranked EMH
One civilian, maybe two (I don't remember if Kes regularly appeared at these meetings or not).
There were at least a few other lieutenants; why one of them was not chosen is unknown.
So, there were going for a full house of ranks?
Right, right. You can tell how often I play card games.
Joe Carey may have been MIA but he was still technically second in command of engineering and more than capable of dealing with things down there.
Whilst pre-Caretaker the meetings could've consisted of: 1 Captain, 1 Commander (not the XO), 4 Lt. Commanders (includes Cavit and CMO), and 2 Lieutenants (Tuvok and Stadi).
You know, VOYAGER had no blue uniform organic senior officers. The Doctor, yes, but he was a hologram. The rest were an even split of gold and red, 3 each.
I don't think any TNG-era senior staff actually manages to make a straight (5 consecutive ranks) or a flush (5 officers in same color), actually.
TNG manages a full house (Cdr, Cdr, Lcdr, Lcdr, Lcdr).
DS9 never gets much of a hand, though it manages a straight at the end IF you include Kira and Nog (Capt., Lt. Col.*, Lcdr, Lt., Ltjg).
Voyager maxes at 2 pair (Lcdr, Lcdr, Ltjg, Ltjg). If you give Harry the rank he would have had if the showrunners had had any sense whatsoever, this adds a third Ltjg for a full house.
TOS... I'm not sure because I never figured out the insignia.
Enterprise... there seem to only be four ranks, so straights are impossible. Once T'Pol is given a Starfleet commission, they manage two pair (Cdr., Cdr., Ens., Ens.)
*When Kira is commissioned in Starfleet, she receives the rank of Commander. This suggests that her Bajoran rank is the equivalent.
TNG manages a full house (Cdr, Cdr, Lcdr, Lcdr, Lcdr).
DS9 never gets much of a hand, though it manages a straight at the end IF you include Kira and Nog (Capt., Lt. Col.*, Lcdr, Lt., Ltjg).
Voyager maxes at 2 pair (Lcdr, Lcdr, Ltjg, Ltjg). If you give Harry the rank he would have had if the showrunners had had any sense whatsoever, this adds a third Ltjg for a full house.
TOS... I'm not sure because I never figured out the insignia.
Enterprise... there seem to only be four ranks, so straights are impossible. Once T'Pol is given a Starfleet commission, they manage two pair (Cdr., Cdr., Ens., Ens.)
*When Kira is commissioned in Starfleet, she receives the rank of Commander. This suggests that her Bajoran rank is the equivalent.
Well in poker terms, TOS did have a full house at one time: 3 Lt. Commanders and 2 Lts... Spock, McCoy, Scotty and Uhura, Sulu. This would be earlier in their first season before Spock became a full commander.
More than likely the writers thought they had killed him off, when they realised they hadn't they had to bring him back for one last episode to correct this grave oversight.
I just realized something. DS9 did have a straight at one point!
Captain Sisko
Commander Kira (in the last few episodes where she was given a Starfleet commission)
Lt. Cmdr. Worf
Lt. Bashir
Lt. j.g. Ezri Dax
Captain Sisko
Commander Kira (in the last few episodes where she was given a Starfleet commission)
Lt. Cmdr. Worf
Lt. Bashir
Lt. j.g. Ezri Dax
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