Is star trek a in good enough place

[fireproof78]

In general I think people should pay a little more attention to what is happening around them. Staggering through life unaware benefits no one.

This is important. I think that's why I appear more indifferent to Trek or other franchises than perhaps one would expect. Because the real world matters for me to give my attention to. Star Trek is like a nice vacation but isn't where I want to live.

 

[Orphalesion]

Do you mean Gambit?

No I mean Unification. The one with the four-armed alien musician who licks salt sticks.

This is important. I think that's why I appear more indifferent to Trek or other franchises than perhaps one would expect. Because the real world matters for me to give my attention to. Star Trek is like a nice vacation but isn't where I want to live.

Exactly it's a nice vacation, or a temporary getaway. Obsessing over a TV show or a book for a weekend or a couple hours every other day, can reduce stress in my experience.Which is of particular use right now.

 

[The Borgified Corpse]

In general I think people should pay a little more attention to what is happening around them. Staggering through life unaware benefits no one.

Every tyrant & genocidal maniac throughout history thought that they were saving the world. Imagine if Hitler had focused his energies on nitpicking Flash Gordon continuity instead of ranting about the Jews. Never underestimate the value of keeping bad people distracted by trivial things.

 

[tesral]

Every tyrant & genocidal maniac throughout history thought that they were saving the world. Imagine if Hitler had focused his energies on nitpicking Flash Gordon continuity instead of ranting about the Jews. Never underestimate the value of keeping bad people distracted by trivial things.

But the bad people do obsesses, just not over media, except to control it. It is sad to say but if not Hitler, someone else. The circumstances were ripe for it.

If the good people pay attention to local issues and politics we are far less likely to end up with Hitlers. Remember kids. "All Politics is Local" -- Tip O'Neil.

 

[dupersuper]

No I mean Unification. The one with the four-armed alien musician who licks salt sticks.

But they weren't looking for Picard there...

 

[JesterFace]

This reply doesn't have much to do with the actual topic but with something this thread mentioned earlier.
There's some discussion here about Star Trek and Star Wars, which is better?
Star Trek wins, easily. No matter what Trek or Wars are doing right now doesn't matter because what Trek has already done, it's so awesome, how can that even be beaten?
Only thing that comes close is season 1 of 24, but perhaps that's just me.

There's one thing in Star Wars that is almost too cool to beat, lightsabres. However, if you take lightsabres away from Star Wars, is it even that "cool" anymore? One trick pony? =)

 

[fireproof78]

is it even that "cool" anymore?

Yes. It has its own appeal outside of Jedi, lightsabers and the Force.

 

[The Wormhole]

However, if you take lightsabres away from Star Wars, is it even that "cool" anymore?

The Mandalorian proves that's a yes.

 

[tesral]

Yes. It has its own appeal outside of Jedi, lightsabers and the Force.

Space Opera, without singing.

Well until it started to do weekly series Star Wars was all epic. Weekly has a hard time with epic. Or epic has a hard time with weekly.

I see the difference as Trek stories are about people, not the fate of the galaxy. From a setting prescriptive Trek is Space Operetta, Space Musical maybe.

The point being that neither precludes the other being "Good".

 

[fireproof78]

The point being that neither precludes the other being "Good".

I think this is my biggest source of frustration. I mean, I guess I can sort of understand brand loyalty to a degree or when there were only 3 networks and no home media so watching something was more of a process. But, now? I can watch an episode of the Mandalorian and then roll right in to Discovery, or vice versa. Or ignore all the new stuff and focus on the old.

 

[F. King Daniel]

You can't like both, you have to pick one. And you can't like all of one, you have to choose between the old stuff or the modern stuff. The penalty for not complying is death.

 

[tesral]

You can't like both, you have to pick one. And you can't like all of one, you have to choose between the old stuff or the modern stuff. The penalty for not complying is death.

 

[fireproof78]

Two franchises enter! One franchise leaves!

 

[Daddy Todd]

why are "casual audiences" requiring new episodes every x years/months/weeks/days/seconds or else they'd wander off to bask in the next best thing?

Because the mass audience has to be manufactured for each and every mass audience “event.” This is an expensive and time-consuming process, so allowing your mass audience to forget about you by going too long before manufacturing the next event is simply bad business.

 

[The Wormhole]

You can't like both, you have to pick one.

*Laughs while drinking Pepsi and Coke.*

 

[tesral]

*Laughs while drinking Pepsi and Coke.*

Got a preference for Pepsi, but what ever you're serving.

 

[F. King Daniel]

*Laughs while drinking Pepsi and Coke.*

Now I want to try a 50/50 mixed coke and pepsi

 

[fireproof78]

*Laughs while drinking Pepsi and Coke.*

Heathen.

Everyone knows its Dr. Pepper.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Heathen.

Everyone knows its Dr. Pepper.

The only soda with an advanced degree.

 

[tesral]

Heathen.

Everyone knows its Dr. Pepper.

Great memory enhancer.

 

[Nyotarules]

To say it. TOS was ALL THE TREK THAT WAS for my entire childhood and into young adulthood. But I'm a SF nerd in general, books, film what ever. Star Wars was wonderful, a movie that entertained first*, and was Space Opera too! TMP WAS MORE TREK! WoK, then TNG it was good to be a Trekkie. So no, it is not my thing and my thing only. My thing can be almost anything.

*The seventies Ghodd save us was the heyday of the "message film" It was not meant to be entertaining, you Philistine. The message was the important part. The message I'm pounding you in the head with!

I agree with this, attributed to Sam Goldwyn of MGM. “If you want to send a message, use Western Union.”

Films have always sent messages, the subliminal ones worked for decades