The Pa Kent deaths scene is sooooo ridiculous.
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A few new bits of information have come out of the Television Critics Awards press tour. The actor playing "the mysterious stranger" says that his character is a "character we've seen a lot before", and is "the hero of his own story", which sounds a lot like the popular theory, Lex Luthor, to me.
They also said that there will be no romantic tension between Clark, Lois, and Lana, and it sounds like only one of the sons will have Kryptonian powers.
They also said that there will be no romantic tension between Clark, Lois, and Lana, and it sounds like only one of the sons will have Kryptonian powers.
Yeah, they were leaning towards Zod on Io9, and I like that idea better than Luthor. I'm kind of shocked we haven't gotten Zod on Supergirl yet, but now that we have Superman and Lois it would be a more appropriate place to finally bring him into the Arrowverse. And he wouldn't even be the first black Zod, since him and the rest of his family were all played by black actors in Krypton.
We did, as a hallucination experienced by Superman in the season 2 finale (played by Mark Gibbon). Apparently Superman fought Zod and defeated him in the past; Winn said Superman killed Zod, contradicting earlier statements that Superman didn't kill, but this was later (fortunately) retconned away when it was established that the Legion fought Zod in the 31st century. (The Arrowverse Wiki interprets this as a resurrection, but I prefer to believe Winn was just wrong.)
Well considering before Crisis Clark and Lois had one infant son and after Crisis have two teenage sons, learning that Zod is alive post Crisis would not be surprising.
EDIT - Jor-El cast. That could tie to Zod too. http://www.kryptonsite.com/angus-mcfadyen-cast-as-jor-el-in-superman-lois/?amp=1
EDIT - Jor-El cast. That could tie to Zod too. http://www.kryptonsite.com/angus-mcfadyen-cast-as-jor-el-in-superman-lois/?amp=1
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Is he? Winn said Superman killed him in season 2 of Supergirl (which made me sad), but then in Crisis Lois said he captured him; said before the reboot (which made me happy).
I completely forgot about all of this.
I have a feeling they probably said he killed as an attempt the be like Man of Steel, but apparently realized that didn't fit their version of Superman.
Tyler Hoechlin talked with EW about why Superman is still relevant, and why he enjoys playing him so much.
It's nice to hear the actor playing him talk about Superman like this.
It's nice to hear the actor playing him talk about Superman like this.
Nice interview. Hoechlin gets it -- probably part of the reason he's one of the great Superman actors of all time.
Post-Crisis comics Superman canon. We're talking about the Arrowverse Superman. Do try to keep up. 
Don't care. The point is that any portrayal of the character treating him as unwilling to kill is no more in line with the way he's been represented over the decades as those that establish him as willing to do so under extreme circumstances.
In fact, the fact that the Arrowverse itself has had it both ways was exactly one of the points being remarked upon in the discussion.
Need I simplify it further?
Except nobody invoked "the way he's been represented over the decades." We were talking about this version of Superman in specific. The question is not, "Has any version of Superman killed?" because the answer to that is clearly yes, and nobody's asserting otherwise. The question is, "Did Hoechlin's, and does it fit his version of the character?"
FWIW, I don't even know that I'm categorically against Superman ever taking a life. It wouldn't be my first choice, but I think Byrne did it in a way that gave it real weight and impact, with profound consequences for the character that resonated through the books long afterward. If Hoechlin's Superman killed Zod in a story with similar substance, I could live with it.
All of which is in vivid contrast to Man of Steel, where the narrative put Superman in that position for no purpose other than Snyder's gleeful pleasure in pulling the wings off flies.
FWIW, I don't even know that I'm categorically against Superman ever taking a life. It wouldn't be my first choice, but I think Byrne did it in a way that gave it real weight and impact, with profound consequences for the character that resonated through the books long afterward. If Hoechlin's Superman killed Zod in a story with similar substance, I could live with it.
All of which is in vivid contrast to Man of Steel, where the narrative put Superman in that position for no purpose other than Snyder's gleeful pleasure in pulling the wings off flies.
Yeah, I think there are extreme circumstances where I could see him killing, but it would have to be an situation where there is absolutely no other way to resolve the situation.
With Man of Steel, it just felt like the situation he was in when he killed Zod was no where near extreme enough. It seemed to me that there had to have been other ways he could dealt with Zod other than killing him.
With Man of Steel, it just felt like the situation he was in when he killed Zod was no where near extreme enough. It seemed to me that there had to have been other ways he could dealt with Zod other than killing him.
Post-Crisis comics Superman canon. We're talking about the Arrowverse Superman. Do try to keep up.
It's also not canon in the comics. Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis, Flashpoint, Convergence, Rebirth, Future State...it was like 6 reboots ago.
Yes yes, you like a killy Superman. Must you derail the thread with that?
Eh? Zod's xenophobic plan would've destroyed humankind, and as a tyrant, there was no negotiating with him, or putting him jail like some 1920s masked robber type. So, how would you resolve that situation? Zod had to die, which is why Snyder's Superman was the most rational and realistic version ever filmed. The winking, "I'll carry you off to the pokey, evildoer!" routine is nonsensical, and certainly not as Superman was handled in the first few years of his published life.
Ironically enough, and despite the wholesale silliness in Superman II, the Reeve version also reached the same conclusion when he tossed his Zod to his death. You cannot negotiate your way out of every situation.