I just thought about that, the episode says it's lethal to organic matter and that the whole ship is exposed to it... wouldn't that mean that all the plants in the arboretum (and the "Mal" area from the ship maps) were destroyed in that episode?
That "barion sweep" in Starship mine...
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No doubt every organic lifeform, including Picard's fish, could have been evacuated: the arboretum we saw is really tiny and could have been beamed down to the planet without complications. The dolphins would need to have had their temporary pool down there, too.
The Mall plants would all be plastic, though.
Timo Saloniemi
The Mall plants would all be plastic, though.
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It's "baryon." Baryons are real things, though that sweep obviously wasn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baryon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baryon
The nonsense part is not that baryons exist, but that pretty much all matter is made up of it.
we have to assume that TNG was meaning some sort of exotic matter.
we have to assume that TNG was meaning some sort of exotic matter.
I guess Star Trek takes place in an alternate universe where normal matter is made up of non-baryon particles. Or there's been a change in the labeling conventions in the last few hundred years and what used to be called baryons are now called composions or ranyons or daystromions or something.
Something that I thought of, Lets say an Intrpid class goes in for a Baryon sweep, what a bout the Bio Neural gell packs that seem to be All Over the ship? Wouldnt the sweep kill the packs?
Could have had a diverter in the arboretum, and other places.
Could have had a diverter in the arboretum, and other places.
I always had the feeling we only saw a small part of the arboretum (or parts) of the arboretum and the real thing was bigger. And from what I remember the mall was supposed to be a green part of the ship, several decks high, with trees and stuff. Would be difficult to get trees out of the ship...
I mistyped without double checking.
Yeah, it was kinda sloppy on that point. FWIW, the opening captain's log did say that the sweep was to get rid of "accumulated" baryons.
If I had a dollar for every time I've done that.
Okay I don't know enough about physics but...does that make sense or is it techno babble?
You know they could have just said the Enterprise has some sort of nasty space termite infestation and and all animal life needs to be "cleansed" by some sort of sweep.
Well, it's not the finest example of technobabble because it is too broad, as @Timelord Victorious said upthread.
As implied by @Timelord Victorious, if they had said, say, "exotic baryon sweep," it would have been much better. Sadly, the word "exotic" was not used.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exotic_baryon -- This is some exciting stuff.
I heard that they did, but then locked it in the same locker as the Genesis Torpedo.
The tactical value is slightly reduced by the complexity of first luring your enemy into the maws of the Remmler Array...
Also, the heroes easily deploy "field diverters" to protect places like the Bridge and Computer Core. Those would make the death ray impotent as a weapon. They might also protect any trees aboard - but we don't really learn that the beam would kill all life. Rather, it threatens people, and mere seven out of Crusher's no doubt numerous samples. Trees might weather the effect just fine, being more robust than people.
Oh, Lore didn't think so!
Or "accumulated baryon particles", which might refer to macroscopic soot of a certain composition in addition to elementary particles.
Does Picard simply mean that it's time to dust off every surface, and it's cheaper to do it with a death ray than with nonlethal holocleaners? Probably not: there's technobabble to the effect that the baryons accumulate due to warp travel. One would then assume they'd chiefly plague the nacelles and Engineering, and places like Sickbay would have little need for sweeping. Yet the death way is allowed to sweep every corridor anyway. And OTOH it's fine to leave Bridge unswept (c.f. the diverter). So we're probably back to the "death ray is the cheapest broom" interpretation, and LaForge then deploys Ensign Mariner with a baryonic toothbrush to deal with places like Bridge and Computer Core.
Timo Saloniemi
Also, the heroes easily deploy "field diverters" to protect places like the Bridge and Computer Core. Those would make the death ray impotent as a weapon. They might also protect any trees aboard - but we don't really learn that the beam would kill all life. Rather, it threatens people, and mere seven out of Crusher's no doubt numerous samples. Trees might weather the effect just fine, being more robust than people.
Oh, Lore didn't think so!
Or "accumulated baryon particles", which might refer to macroscopic soot of a certain composition in addition to elementary particles.
Does Picard simply mean that it's time to dust off every surface, and it's cheaper to do it with a death ray than with nonlethal holocleaners? Probably not: there's technobabble to the effect that the baryons accumulate due to warp travel. One would then assume they'd chiefly plague the nacelles and Engineering, and places like Sickbay would have little need for sweeping. Yet the death way is allowed to sweep every corridor anyway. And OTOH it's fine to leave Bridge unswept (c.f. the diverter). So we're probably back to the "death ray is the cheapest broom" interpretation, and LaForge then deploys Ensign Mariner with a baryonic toothbrush to deal with places like Bridge and Computer Core.
Timo Saloniemi
& the transporter pattern buffer diagnostic cycle that can store a person on emergency power for 75 years
The arboretum we saw in “Data’s Day” was larger than the one in “Dark Page.” Maybe there are multiple arboretums on the ship. Scotty beamed in two whales in a bunch of water and Star Trek IV, so large transports have been done even a while back. And whole rooms/decks could be removable like a giant Legos during procedures like this.
Speaking of Genesis, I hope they beamed out those random uncastrated stray tomcats that roam the Enterprise corridors.
Do...do they castrate cats where you live?
When they can. It's the humane thing to do, according to Bob Barker. I don't think I've ever owned a cat that wasn't neutered, other than a couple kittens as a kid, but they were all fixed pretty quickly. I don't deal with cat breeders and most reputable animal control places have spay & neuter options, it seems.
Huh: checking google I see that castration is an accepted term for neutering. I always considered them two different things. The more you know...
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