Forbiden Planet Movie, Thoughts and Questions on there Universe.

[tesral]

Like a 50's version of Star Trek. It's Star Trek 0: The Forbidden Planet, anyway.

I've seen it that way. Indications that Roddenberry was thinking along those lines can be found in Cpt. Pike's hat in The Cage. He never wore it, but it was on the dresser with his holster. The look of The Cage sets was also highly suggestive of Forbidden Planet.

So we have been watching Forbidden Planet the Series all along.

 

[LaxScrutiny]

I've seen it that way. Indications that Roddenberry was thinking along those lines can be found in Cpt. Pike's hat in The Cage. He never wore it, but it was on the dresser with his holster. The look of The Cage sets was also highly suggestive of Forbidden Planet.

So we have been watching Forbidden Planet the Series all along.

You can also see what looks like some of the same sets used in TOS: What Are Little Girls Made Of. I'm remembering in particular the arches in the cave/tunnels, and I think a couple of other places, not to mention the concept of "The Old Ones" and even the android (Robbie?), Korby (Morpheus?) and Andrea (Altaira?)
It's a long time since I've watched either, but those stick out in my memory.

 

[Noname Given]

I've seen it that way. Indications that Roddenberry was thinking along those lines can be found in Cpt. Pike's hat in The Cage. He never wore it, but it was on the dresser with his holster. The look of The Cage sets was also highly suggestive of Forbidden Planet.

So we have been watching Forbidden Planet the Series all along.

There's also a line from Forbidden Planet near the very beginning of the film, that shows someone was either subconsciously influenced or openly deciding to make a connection. The line is:

Navigator: "De-C at 17:01..."
(It's a reference to them exiting hyperspace and going to sublight speed.)

But notice the number/time: 17:01.

And ultimately the registry number of the USS Enterprise in Star Trek: NCC-1701.

A stunning coincidence? I think not.

 

[Maurice]

We know from a memo that Roddenberry suggested they have a look at Forbidden Planet to see how they handled things like controls panels, etc., not with an eye to copying but just to see what their approach was.

As to the animals, I think it's plainly obvious they are creations of the big machine, if not stated as such, because—Morbius' suggestion that the Krell visited Earth—it's preposterous that these Earth animals would survive for eons in an alien environment when (apparently) all other animal life of the planet appears to have been annihilated.

There's also a line from Forbidden Planet near the very beginning of the film, that shows someone was either subconsciously influenced or openly deciding to make a connection. The line is:

Navigator: "De-C at 17:01..."
(It's a reference to them exiting hyperspace and going to sublight speed.)

But notice the number/time: 17:01.

And ultimately the registry number of the USS Enterprise in Star Trek: NCC-1701.

A stunning coincidence? I think not.

Maybe. But it seems a silly thing to make note of, let alone use on your spaceship.

 

[Discofan]

Yes, but have you noticed that for Star Wars they stole the robot from Metropolis?

 

[tesral]

Yes, but have you noticed that for Star Wars they stole the robot from Metropolis?

Lucas said that C3PO was a hoimage to Maria in Metropolis.

Friz Lang did wonders in that film. The special effects are incredible for the day. Yes, I have seen it. By modern standards, Anvilicious as all get out. The allegory is laid on pretty thick.

 

[LaxScrutiny]

Lucas said that C3PO was a hoimage to Maria in Metropolis.

Friz Lang did wonders in that film. The special effects are incredible for the day. Yes, I have seen it. By modern standards, Anvilicious as all get out. The allegory is laid on pretty thick.

Maria is a lot sexier too. If you're into robots that is.

 

[tesral]

Maria is a lot sexier too. If you're into robots that is.

Sorry I have a thing for real women.

 

[Discofan]

Maria is a lot sexier too. If you're into robots that is.

For some reason that makes me think of the scene in "Excalibur" where Uther is having sex with Igraine with his armor on...

 

[LaxScrutiny]

For some reason that makes me think of the scene in "Excalibur" where Uther is having sex with Igraine with his armor on...

Mmmm, that's quite the codpiece you have there Uther.

 

[tesral]

For some reason that makes me think of the scene in "Excalibur" where Uther is having sex with Igraine with his armor on...

Worse sex scene, ever.

 

[LaxScrutiny]

Worse sex scene, ever.

Oh dear, you are so vanilla, I just want to cover you with bananas, cherries, pistachios, and chocolate sauce. And then take you out to a club. In handcuffs. Whipped cream is optional.
ETA: Sorry, for a minute there I forgot I wasn't in TNZ. I love you buddy, don't let me scare you.

 

[LaxScrutiny]

There's also a line from Forbidden Planet near the very beginning of the film, that shows someone was either subconsciously influenced or openly deciding to make a connection. The line is: Navigator: "De-C at 17:01..."
(It's a reference to them exiting hyperspace and going to sublight speed.)
But notice the number/time: 17:01.
And ultimately the registry number of the USS Enterprise in Star Trek: NCC-1701.
A stunning coincidence? I think not.

Maybe. But it seems a silly thing to make note of, let alone use on your spaceship.

I tried to get a license plate NCC 1701, but it was taken. As was 1701 A, B, C, etc.
I mean, why would anyone not? Surly even in a Forbidden Planet future, hundreds or thousands of years from now, they knew about Star Trek.
God damned right I'd use it on my next space ship.

 

[jackoverfull]

You can also see what looks like some of the same sets used in TOS: What Are Little Girls Made Of. I'm remembering in particular the arches in the cave/tunnels, and I think a couple of other places, not to mention the concept of "The Old Ones" and even the android (Robbie?), Korby (Morpheus?) and Andrea (Altaira?)
It's a long time since I've watched either, but those stick out in my memory.

even better parallel: requiem for methuselah.

Lucas said that C3PO was a hoimage to Maria in Metropolis.

Friz Lang did wonders in that film. The special effects are incredible for the day. Yes, I have seen it. By modern standards, Anvilicious as all get out. The allegory is laid on pretty thick.

It was incredible. Watching this in a cinema with a real piano player providing the music was an incredible experience for me.

Worse sex scene, ever.

Sub Rosa...?

 

[Noname Given]

For some reason that makes me think of the scene in "Excalibur" where Uther is having sex with Igraine with his armor on...

That type of 'protection' didn't seem to have the intended result though...MERLIN!

 

[Ithekro]

Could Forbidden Planet and The Black Hole share a universe, just at different points in time?

 

[Discofan]

There are a few things in that movie that are kind of a mystery.

Like why does the monster always appear at a distance from where it needs to be so it has to go there on foot so to speak, instead of just being created there?

How did Robbie know that the monster was in fact an "avatar" of Morbius since no one else seemed to know it at that point?

Why couldn't they just sedate Morbius, put him in a very deep sleep, and then take him away from that planet? Once far enough he would not be able to summon his monster anymore.

Why did the Krell machine have a self-destruct function so easy to activate? I mean why would the Krell want to destroy their planet completely or Morbius for that matter? Surely, just disabling the machine would have been enough.

Just Imagine the Krell between themselves...

Krell 1: What if something goes wrong with the machine?

Krell 2: Well, that's ok, you just pull that lever and throw that switch and the whole planet goes boom!!!

Krell 1: That's reassuring.

Plus others than I'll list later for now I have something that needs me IRL

 

[jackoverfull]

Like why does the monster always appear at a distance from where it needs to be so it has to go there on foot so to speak, instead of just being created there?

I think the monster manifests as a ind of dream to the Id, it doesn't necessarily have a mission from the beginning of the manifestation, so it doesn't necesarily manifest exactly where it needs to be.

Alternatively, there might be a dedicated place where it initially manifests for some reason, either because the machine creates it there or because Morbius is somehow linked to that place (the graves of his wife and his crewmembers might be it, for example).

How did Robbie know that the monster was in fact an "avatar" of Morbius since no one else seemed to know it at that point?

Robbie is based upon Krell technology and understands much more than humans.
I'm not sure he understands it's a manifestation of Morbius' Id specifically, but he knows that to destroy it he would need to kill a human.

Why couldn't they just sedate Morbius, put him in a very deep sleep, and then take him away from that planet? Once far enough he would not be able to summon his monster anymore.

There is no way to know the range of the machine.

Why did the Krell machine have a self-destruct function so easy to activate? I mean why would the Krell want to destroy their planet completely or Morbius for that matter? Surely, just disabling the machine would have been enough.

I think they overheated the reactor or something, not that it was specifically a self-destruct feature.

 

[LaxScrutiny]

Could Forbidden Planet and The Black Hole share a universe, just at different points in time?

"The Black Hole?" Do you mean that old Disney movie, or my ex-wife?

Why did the Krell machine have a self-destruct function so easy to activate? I mean why would the Krell want to destroy their planet completely or Morbius for that matter? Surely, just disabling the machine would have been enough.

They reversed the polarity of the quantum flux capacitor overflow thinking it would just shut down. Who could have known?

 

[Discofan]

"The Black Hole?" Do you mean that old Disney movie, or my ex-wife?They reversed the polarity of the quantum flux capacitor overflow thinking it would just shut down. Who could have known?

If that "Ghost Busters"?


You know when they cross the streams... It sounds familiar but I am not sure.