Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x11 - "Su'Kal"

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

The mini burn wave seen here was so agonizingly slow propagating.
The big one happened near instantly across the galaxy.
Here we could see it it expanding visually.
Made it look really unimpressive.
I saw an animation recently, of a light wave propagating from earth outward at different scales.
Even that one looked suuuuper slow once it zoomed out beyond the moon distance.
And that was light, which would actually look near instantaneous if watched at the scale presented here.
Accurately it should have looked like a bright flash if being visible at all. The light would be the afterglow of the actual phenomenon.
But that is a conceit of a visual medium, I guess.

 

[dupersuper]

- since this scream from Su Kal didn't result in Discovery exploding, and that looked already like a pretty powerful wave he emitted, then what the heck happened the first time in order to make ships explode across the entire quadrant (if not further)

I'm guessing it was when his mother died.

 

[NCC-73515]

The mini burn wave seen here was so agonizingly slow propagating.
The big one happened near instantly across the galaxy.
Here we could see it it expanding visually.
Made it look really unimpressive.
I saw an animation recently, of a light wave propagating from earth outward at different scales.
Even that one looked suuuuper slow once it zoomed out beyond the moon distance.
And that was light, which would actually look near instantaneous if watched at the scale presented here.
Accurately it should have looked like a bright flash if being visible at all. The light would be the afterglow of the actual phenomenon.
But that is a conceit of a visual medium, I guess.

perhaps its speed increases with its intensity

 

[Ketrick]

After seeing this week's episode and being thoroughly impressed by it, I've decided to no longer withhold judgment on "Su'Kal" and give it a 9. It's probably more of an 8.5, but I'll be generous.

 

[Angry Fanboy]

Loads of phenomena like this are shown to move at sublight where they should be moving much faster - the Praxis shockwave, the Nexus, the time-changing wave in Year Of Hell. Just making it look interesting for the audience's benefit isn't it?

 

[ITDUDE]

Finally watched this episode. I stand by my 2/10 grade. No ups, only downs. Only reason it's not getting a 1/10 is because of Doug Jones. He steals the scene with or without makeup. He is too good for Discovery (the ship and the TV show). Tilly finally had an opportunity to kick ass as captain... didn't. Let's see how she did in 3x12...
(oh and don't get me started on baby tantrum causing countless millions dead...)

Edit after watching 3x12. Nope still nothing close to Killy

 

[fireproof78]

Just making it look interesting for the audience's benefit isn't it?

Phaser beams, transporter, and on and on. It's a visual conceit for an audience who is looking to be entertained.

 

[ScottJ85]

Doug Jones. He steals the scene with or without makeup.

I certainly don’t share your opinion of this episode or Discovery as a whole but I really can’t argue with you there. Getting Doug Jones out of the Kelpien makeup was a good move and let him show just how good an actor he really is.

also I just found out he was the guy in the Mac Tonite costume, I had no idea.

 

[Noname Given]

It works fine.

It's the most impossible piece of technology they have. It breaks down and recombines billions of molecules in a few seconds. The amount of computing power that would take to accomplish the task in that short a time won't be available by the 22nd or 23rd century. The way it works also violates the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Getting Doug Jones out of the Kelpien makeup was a good move and let him show just how good an actor he really is.

I realised that this was the first time I'd seen him act without heavy makeup of some kind on.

 

[cooleddie74]

He was in an upper-tier Star Wars fan film about Han Solo and acted without makeup covering his face but yeah, it's rare to see him act in anything without layers of latex over his entire face.

 

[dupersuper]

The way it works also violates the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle.

That's what the heisenberg compensators are for.

 

[Discofan]

Yeah, the transporter is just about as believable as flying broomsticks and rainbows leading to cauldrons filled with gold...

 

[Discofan]

That's what the heisenberg compensators are for.

I wouldn't be surprised if the writers picked these words by throwing darts at pages of a science book.

 

[Angry Fanboy]

I wouldn't be surprised if the writers picked these words by throwing darts at pages of a science book.

Not at all. Named after a theoretical physicist noted for his work in quantum mechanics.

 

[NCC-73515]

Not at all. Named after a theoretical physicist noted for his work in quantum mechanics.

Who that very same principle is named after XD

 

[Discofan]

Not at all. Named after a theoretical physicist noted for his work in quantum mechanics.

I know that. What's that got to do with anything? I can say a Plank decoupler, a Bohr separator, a Schrödinger felinizer*, a Dirac equalizer... without thinking, just as these writers did.


*see what I did there?

 

[fireproof78]

I know that. What's that got to do with anything? I can say a Plank decoupler, a Bohr separator, a Schrödinger felinizer*, a Dirac equalizer... without thinking, just as these writers did.


*see what I did there?

That's like SF Debris guide to writing for VOY-take two sciency sounding works and smash them together and you can write VOY scripts.

 

[Angry Fanboy]

I know that. What's that got to do with anything? I can say a Plank decoupler, a Bohr separator, a Schrödinger felinizer*, a Dirac equalizer... without thinking, just as these writers did.

I don't think that you do know that.

The Heisenberg Compensators derive their name from The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, which involves not being able to know the location and direction of quantum particle and is a key aspect of how transporters theoretically operate. So the transporters require something to counter this Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle - hence the name Heisenberg Compensators.

So the name isn't just writers throwing darts at a book.

Happy to help and I'll accept any forthcoming apology graciously!

 

[Discofan]

I don't think that you do know that.

The Heisenberg Compensators derive their name from The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, which involves not being able to know the location and direction of quantum particle and is a key aspect of how transporters theoretically operate. So the transporters require something to counter this Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle - hence the name Heisenberg Compensators.

So the name isn't just writers throwing darts at a book.

Happy to help and I'll accept any forthcoming apology graciously!

I know a great deal about quantum mechanics, evidently a great deal more than you do, which doesn't say much... Anyway, just as you clumsily rationalized the use of "Heisenberg Compensator", I can do the same for any of the expressions that I made up in about two minutes. Let see...

A Planck decoupler comes from Planck's constant which stipulates that the energy of a photon is proportional to its frequency... The decoupler allows the transporter to keep a constant flow of energy aka power regardless of the variability of the individual energy of each photon... without it, there would be a risk of overloading the transporter.

A Bohr separator comes Bohr's formula which incidentally also uses Planck's constant, it allows the transporter to reproduce the state of each electron of an atom separately when the atom is rematerialized sequentially.

A Schrödinger felinizer, allows the transporter to rematerialize the transportee alive instead of dead (it come for Schrödinger's cat who's both dead and alive at the same time)


A Dirac equalizer comes from Dirac's equation, it allows the transporter to regulate the apparition of virtual particles during transport...


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