I will try not to spoil anything but what I will say is this, for the most part I've enjoyed season 3 of Discovery but you mean to tell me that after Discovery had all these upgrades, on her "VERY FIRST" confrontation with another ship, this was the best you could come up with. So basically she couldn't even defend herself after all of that. Supercomputer core, massive upgrades and there was nothing that could be done to prevent what happened. WTF?
Drama queen writers
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Well, she still had 23rd century cavemen aboard... It's not particularly plausible that they would have learned to push the right buttons in emergencies yet, especially since there had been no such emergencies to train in. Back in their day, a brief dropping of shields would not have resulted in the ship immediately getting flooded by bad guys beaming in!
Timo Saloniemi
Timo Saloniemi
Even more reason to disband the crew and get real Fleeters in there
I just felt like they could have gave the ole girl a couple of wins first before someone had the capability of being able to do that.
Whatever happened to battle simulations and OJT. I mean it's the 31st Century I'm sure we've perfected these things by now. Like I said I think the writers are just trying to create drama rather than action.
Gee you mean a ship with 32nd century tech had issues against a LARGER ship with the same 32nd century tech? Who'd have believed it?
(They've set up the fact already that the EC is a major Galactic power on par with what remains of the current Federation. Vance and Co. are barely able to hold their own and hold on to what they have as the EC projects its own power across the Galaxy. I mean it's NOT like Flagship of the Federation was taken oven by 3 Ferengi using outdated/decommissioned BoP's -- like say TNG S6 - "Rascals"
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The takeover was ridiculously easy - it's hard to argue otherwise. There was no fight back.
People keep saying 'but Rascals' as if that makes it okay, but just because the Ferengi taking the Enterprise 30 years ago was depicted badly it doesn't mean taking a ship has to keep being depicted badly does it?
People keep saying 'but Rascals' as if that makes it okay, but just because the Ferengi taking the Enterprise 30 years ago was depicted badly it doesn't mean taking a ship has to keep being depicted badly does it?
I don't think i have to interpret it badly is my thinking. I'm just going with Emerald Chain has made countermeasuring Starfleet tech a priority.
It wasn't really depicted like that though. People basically just beamed onboard and said 'we'll take it from here guys' and the Starfleet crew just stood there and let them carry on.
Would you rather then attempt to beat the crap out of the invaders and get people killed?
We come in peace; shoot to kill indeed.
I'd have liked to see the crew putting up some sort of a fight yes. A minute or two of phasers being fired, a few redshirts getting vaporised, but the crew is quickly overwhelmed by a superior force.
I didn't like a Starfleet crew basically shrugging and going 'I guess that's that then' ten seconds after people beam in to takeover their ship.
What?
Come on Timo.
A lot of the stuff during and before emergencies would be completely automated.
Shields would come on automatically when detecting a new ship... transport blockers should be activated too in case of red alert (and weapons would charge automatically too - heck, this was implemented as part of 'Reed Alert' from NX-01)... as would automatic forcefields spring up in case boarding parties manage to beam on board (and phasers materializing in corridors via programmable matter or transporters - or they could sprung up from the bulkheads - simple type 2 handheld units from 24th century would suffice - because power generation would radically improve by 32nd century, so those would draw virtually nothing in terms of energy).
I mean, all of that would be basic and part of the retrofit for the 32nd century, and its as if the writers decided to ignore everything for the drama.
23rd century or not, the crew was already in dangerous situations back in their own time and some stuff was already automated. This would be no different, just more expanded (like it was in the 24th century).
Tilly being inexperienced is one thing, but some things like I mentioned wouldn't need orders because automation would be there to handle it in the first place.
Heck, Discovery wasn't even shown as if it has any weapons after the retrofit.
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A hostile enemy beams onboard and wants to take over the ship... the Starfleet crew doesn't set phasers to kill... they are set to stun (always - unless stun is ineffective and stronger setting is needed, which is rare).
Even the Enterprise-E crew in Nemesis armed themselves just in case while en-route to the Starfleet taskforce.
On Voyager, boarding parties were usually contained with security teams... even in Basics (when the Kazon took over Voyager), the crew fought back.
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If Worf was there, he'd immediately jump out with a phaser ready until Osyraa or her lieutenant knocked him out.
Who's their Worf? Rhys? He's not even wearing the right combadge.
Who's their Worf? Rhys? He's not even wearing the right combadge.
They basically have a pull tab outside, to come in. NX-01 practically had a welcome mat. And adding to that, yes, Tilly was thrown in a situation as a new XO who never even finished her CTP as far as was ever shown. She should not have been in that situation.
Vance did not look pleased when the news was relayed to him but for the most part he's been extremely laissez faire to Saru about the running of the ship, even keeping old uniforms. Depending on how things go down in the final episode I could imagine there are some changes in store.
He might also want to remind them to close the hangar doors..
