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Spoilers Ah, the NEW uniforms...!

The only real issue with finding a "lineage" between 32nd Century uniforms & slightly older ones seen in flashbacks and late 24th century ones is, what about the other 670-ish years between Picard and those holograms?

Non-canon, but before DSC S3 came out, STO established/indicated the the Odyssey uniform - introduced in 2410 for Odyssey-class flagships like the Enterprise-F - would be in use into the 2550s. Captain Dax of the Enterprise-J is wearing that outfit.

Remember the uniform of Captain Braxton and the USS Relativity-G? That was in use as early as the 27th century (ST performance: "Star Trek Live") and seen on a Ferasan captain from the 31st century. (STO: "The Battle of Procyon V").
https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Wells_uniform
 
Non-canon, but before DSC S3 came out, STO established/indicated the the Odyssey uniform - introduced in 2410 for Odyssey-class flagships like the Enterprise-F - would be in use into the 2550s. Captain Dax of the Enterprise-J is wearing that outfit.

Remember the uniform of Captain Braxton and the USS Relativity-G? That was in use as early as the 27th century (ST performance: "Star Trek Live") and seen on a Ferasan captain from the 31st century. (STO: "The Battle of Procyon V").
https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Wells_uniform

It's odd because they can have 3 uniforms in short periods (TOS/TMP/TWOK or TNGs1-2/TNGs3-7/DS9-VOY/FC) and seemingly 2 types in the time period between Picard and the flashbacks.

Yet they had the monster maroons for possibly 60(?) years with and without the turtleneck. Yeah, I know they aren't going to create costumes for that many eras they won't use, but even some official artwork with a timeline would be cool.
 
I like the idea of guns coming from different manufacturers: even today you can for example buy computers from a given company and that company might employ components from different manufactures (for example a wireless card) that can look different but perform similarly

The FASA Trekverse has a variety of different manufacturers for things like phasers and warp technology, multiple firms that at times are in competition with each other. They also had a couple of interesting TNG era uniforms, like a specific gray variant for warrant officers.
 
The D book seems to mostly contain stuff from the TM - what do they show in the Voyager book?
And are their other books just collections of the ship model magazines?
 
Eaglemoss does Fact file type books.

Like their illustrated handbook for the Enterprise (DSC and TOS) and Enterprise-A use the old fact file images plus new images made in that style.
good to know, thanks. But do they do articles on uniforms, species, equipment and so on?
 
It's odd because they can have 3 uniforms in short periods (TOS/TMP/TWOK or TNGs1-2/TNGs3-7/DS9-VOY/FC) and seemingly 2 types in the time period between Picard and the flashbacks.

Yet they had the monster maroons for possibly 60(?) years with and without the turtleneck. Yeah, I know they aren't going to create costumes for that many eras they won't use, but even some official artwork with a timeline would be cool.

Yep, this will be the same old thing -- it's a TV show and they're only gonna design and make the costumes for whichever bits of history they actually need for any given episode or story arc. It was interesting to watch this happen with the timescales from TOS to the TNG/DS9/VOY era shows but now that they have a "gap" of hundreds of years, it's likely we'll never see all of the full continuity in terms of Federation and Starfleet history.

I also think there's a good chance they're going to loose track of things because this will just be too big for them and they're just not tracking the continuity like previous production teams.

As much as I appreciated the flashback to Kaminar joining the Federation, just when exactly was that meant to happen? I liked the light grey uniforms but they look like they shouldn't be more than a couple hundred years prior to 3189, if that. Given the events of S2, I'd have expected Kaminar to have joined the Federation by, say, the TNG-era at the latest, even if we never saw it on-screen. I think they would have been better off not using their only other badge design (the Adm Tal badge) and very "recent" looking uniforms -- in fact, they could have legitimately used something like classic TNG costumes for this segment.

I have no idea what the costume for the holo "Tech" was meant to be -- that was just a weird mash-up. I suspect this might be one of those costume blips that it's better not to over-think because I don't think there is a sensible explanation...! If anything, the holo Tech should have been wearing the more recent uniform that immediately preceded the Adm. Tal uniform, possibly with the same combadge, as that would seem to be about right for the time of the Burn, but the Kaminar flashbacks should have been much older uniforms and clearly different, possibly TNG, possibly even the Picard uniforms if they wanted to set Kaminar joining somewhat later but still save money by using readily available costumes!


The FASA Trekverse has a variety of different manufacturers for things like phasers and warp technology, multiple firms that at times are in competition with each other. They also had a couple of interesting TNG era uniforms, like a specific gray variant for warrant officers.

Yeah, but when did FASA ever have anything to do with what happened in the shows, apart from borrowing the name and a few basic concepts?! They went way off-track into creating stuff that had nothing to do with canon Trek.


a pity they no longer make anything like the Fact Files: they always had a ball with things like these.

It would be interesting for sure but the Fact Files were not necessarily fully accurate.
 
It would be interesting for sure but the Fact Files were not necessarily fully accurate.
true, but they tried.

Agreed that they should have just used the Picard uniforms (either 2385 or 2399) for the joining scene: would have saved them money, would have set a time period for the event (perhaps they wanted to avoid this?) and it would have avoided introducing new uniforms without much reason. Go figure.
 
Yeah, but when did FASA ever have anything to do with what happened in the shows, apart from borrowing the name and a few basic concepts?! They went way off-track into creating stuff that had nothing to do with canon Trek.

FASA had a license to make an official Trek product, at a time when the canon information was much smaller than it is now. And while it's true that some elements of their Trekverse are a tad wonky (and in some cases quite overruled by what became canon in later series), I think they deserve fair credit for what they did. In some respects one could say they did things a bit better, like using the Orions effectively in the role that the Ferengi were intended to have in TNG without the silliness that developed around them.

YMMV of course. ;)
 
FASA had a license to make an official Trek product, at a time when the canon information was much smaller than it is now. And while it's true that some elements of their Trekverse are a tad wonky (and in some cases quite overruled by what became canon in later series), I think they deserve fair credit for what they did. In some respects one could say they did things a bit better, like using the Orions effectively in the role that the Ferengi were intended to have in TNG without the silliness that developed around them.

YMMV of course. ;)

All fair points -- but they definitely went right off at a tangent in some places (things like the grey TNG uniforms being part of that).

Their game was very much about fleets and interactions and needed certain in-game mechanisms to make it work (which is fair enough) but it tend tend towards something of a rather 20th Century military/industrial take on Starfleet, which felt rather more Star Wars than Star Trek. It served a purpose for the game though and it is absolutely true that they were operating in a relative vacuum compared to where we are now!

I do take your point about the Orions. In many ways, it feels like some of the subsequent canon usage of the Orions still has roots in that
 
For its faults, I think FASA made a good effort with what they had to work with. :) Some aspects of their Trekverse are rather silly, even within the context of a single product... the TNG Officer's Manual can't seem to decide on exactly what the relationship is between the Federation and the Klingon Empire, save that the two are now actually part of a single allied government. This government is already building lots of new hybrid technology vessels, even though the shift in political power is also apparently bringing the role of Starfleet itself into question according to one chapter. :rommie:

I do feel that, relative to the utopian aspects that Gene wanted in early TNG, FASA was a bit more true to the idea of Trek being more of a space western/naval adventure in ways.
 
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